The United States government is asking Apple to hack own customers

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Trump Calls on Consumers to Boycott Apple While Tweeting from an iPhone

http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2016/02/19/trump_calls_on_consumers_to_boycott_apple_while_tweeting_from_an_iphone.html

 

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Apple Always Win

 

[Kayla 7,595]

18 hours ago, VampireHeart said:

"...While Apple looked to present the fight as being over security and privacy, some have accused it of being a question of profits. The company needs people to believe its phones are safe because only then will people buy them.

It’s fairly clear that unlocking the phone in this instance isn’t too painful for Apple — Tim Cook said in his letter to customers that the company had been helping the FBI get into parts of the phone, and that it would do what it could without weakening security..."

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/what-is-the-real-reason-apple-wont-unlock-the-san-bernardino-killers-iphone-a6884581.html

 

@Kayla  @FATCAT @Benji

what do you think of this article? 

This is what the FBI asked them to do:
"The Justice Department wants to force Apple to write software that would allow the government to try millions of random password combinations to get into the phone."
^ isn't that the method that hackers already use to access information, accounts, and data on less secure sites and hardware? 

If that's their way of "protecting" us, no thanks. I'm not against finding a method to access phone information in cases of emergency, but they need a better method than that.

What's funny is them criticizing Apple for using the situation as a marketing scheme is a scheme in itself. Apple used the information and made themselves look good, now these people are using the response to make Apple look bad. Pot calling the kettle black much?
They can say Apple is using this as a sales opportunity, but in reality Apple is choosing user security and privacy like they have for years, and they're telling the FBI that their idea for phone hacking is not safe for the users, which it isn't.

If sticking by your principles is a "sales" strategy, so be it. I want to support a company who puts user security as a principle they stand by, even when the FBI is at their door. That's integrity.  

[Kayla 7,595]

16 hours ago, Born To Slay said:

What about the sweatshop controversy?

What I'm reading about that now is after every accusation Apple has conducted investigations and "In 2007, Apple started yearly audits of the labor conditions of all its suppliers, slowly raising standards and severing relationships with suppliers that did not comply—yearly progress reports have also been published since 2008."

However, the suicides and what followed them I find sketchy. That would be a side of Apple that does give me cloudy thoughts. 

Honestly, I do think it's bogus that Apple does so many things to be environmentally efficient, protect its users, treat its employees well, etc. etc. and they still ship jobs overseas to get cheap labor. That's the one thing I would change about that company if I could. The sad thing is they're the better of the evils when it comes to most things, including overseas labor. 

[Born To Slay 10,996]

18 minutes ago, Kayla said:

What I'm reading about that now is after every accusation Apple has conducted investigations and "In 2007, Apple started yearly audits of the labor conditions of all its suppliers, slowly raising standards and severing relationships with suppliers that did not comply—yearly progress reports have also been published since 2008."

However, the suicides and what followed them I find sketchy. That would be a side of Apple that does give me cloudy thoughts. 

Honestly, I do think it's bogus that Apple does so many things to be environmentally efficient, protect its users, treat its employees well, etc. etc. and they still ship jobs overseas to get cheap labor. That's the one thing I would change about that company if I could. The sad thing is they're the better of the evils when it comes to most things, including overseas labor. 

I agree they're better then others in conditions in foreign countries, I just hope they're honestly trying to improve things over there.

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Just now, Born To Slay said:

I agree they're better then others in conditions in foreign countries, I just hope they're honestly trying to improve things over there.

They unfortunately do not have much control over it all they can do is poke at the outsourced companies and tell them to fix things up but whether they actually will is never clear, conditions in these warehouses haven't really improved in the many years Apple has been using them... the warehouses solutions to the suicides of their workers was to add barriers to stop them comitting suicide instead of improving the conditions in the first place.

Apple may be good at protecting the security of its customers but I will not be able to respect them as a company until they stop throwing money at companies that treat their employees like slaves. No matter how many security policies Apple imposes on its factories they will never be able to guarantee they are followed, and they often are not.

[Kayla 7,595]

3 minutes ago, LG said:

They unfortunately do not have much control over it all they can do is poke at the outsourced companies and tell them to fix things up but whether they actually will is never clear, conditions in these warehouses haven't really improved in the many years Apple has been using them... the warehouses solutions to the suicides of their workers was to add barriers to stop them comitting suicide instead of improving the conditions in the first place.

Apple may be good at protecting the security of its customers but I will not be able to respect them as a company until they stop throwing money at companies that treat their employees like slaves. No matter how many security policies Apple imposes on its factories they will never be able to guarantee they are followed, and they often are not.

Which points to the need for them to create the iPhones in the USA under strict regulations, not China. 

There are financial sacrifices that would need to be made, but in reality if the outcome of a product or company hinges on its ability to allow for mistreatment of people perhaps we should be considering if it's something we really should have in the first place. 

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Just now, Kayla said:

Which points to the need for them to create the iPhones in the USA under strict regulations, not China. 

There are financial sacrifices that would need to be made, but in reality if the outcome of a product or company hinges on its ability to allow for mistreatment of people perhaps we should be considering if it's something we really should have in the first place. 

They could even open up their own factories in China and recruit workers there cheaper than they can in the US, as long as they pay a livable wage and have good working conditions, anything is better than the outsourcing they are doing right now.