hmm 979 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Just now, Nino said: If people cannot defend themselves from attackers and another country wants to abuse them they will 100% of the time. It only makes sense that a country born from overthrowing an opressive dictator would know this best and do anything to preserve our willingness to defend our home. Assuming you mean external forces, I'm pretty sure that's what militaries and military alliances are for - not the average citizen. Even ignoring that, the direct cause of world war one was the assassination by shooting of Franz Duke Ferdinand so your analogy that "no guns = war" doesn't really hold well. Accounting for safety in Europe, intentional homicide rates in the vast majority of European nations are below that of the USA's, so I don't think we have anything to worry about in that regard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 minute ago, ShockPop said: Ignorance is a dangerous thing. America brought us McDonald's. Human killer. You still haven't answered my question. Stockholm syndrome? (Doesnt mean you love Stockholm by the way. Look it up.) My "of course" was my answer America brought us McDonald's. Tasty food that so readily availible and tasty that morons with no self control ruin their lives with it. Morons with no self control would just find something else to ruin their lives with if McDonalds didn't exist. I can't help that everyone in America has so much money and such great food that those things often collide in an ugly way, however they're still two great things on their own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, hmm said: Assuming you mean external forces, I'm pretty sure that's what militaries and military alliances are for - not the average citizen. In America everyone is here to live by and die for our country and everyone who isn't is completely free to live elsewhere. That's why we have more people signing up for our military than we can handle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Just now, Nino said: In America everyone is here to live by and die for our country. That's why we have more people signing up for our military than we can handle. Ok but that's entirely besides any point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 7 minutes ago, hmm said: Ok but that's entirely besides any point It isn't though, to free ourselves from from GB every citizen was a part of the war effort, young or old. It's an attitude that never left, and it's the attitude that never left and turned into the American exceptionalism of today that allows us to do such incredible things as a nation united. Our right to own guns and our thirst for the blood of our enemies is what created the most successful country on the planet. I'm not saying we are a nation of pacifict non-violent people but I'm saying that the violence is a necessary evil to preserve our greateness and keep our legacy alive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Just now, Nino said: It isn't though, to free ourselves from from GB every citizen was a part of the war effort, young or old. It's an attitude that never left, and it's the attitude that never left and turned into the American exceptionalism of today that allows us to do such incredible things as a nation united. Our right to own guns and our thirst for the blood of our enemies is what created the most successful country on the planet. It's great that America got its autonomy and whatever (although the bolded part above is unsettling to say the least), I don't think we're going to agree on this anyway so there's probably no point continuing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 The fact is that a bigger, grander state has bigger, grander problems. Rome had insane dictators, The United Kingdom is the most hidesouly opressive and aggresively colonial reign in history, Egypt had a lack of human rights, etc etc Some violent gun crazies by comparison ain't too bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 minute ago, hmm said: It's great that America got its autonomy and whatever (although the bolded part above is unsettling to say the least), I don't think we're going to agree on this anyway so there's probably no point continuing. dddddd I'm not saying im bloodthirsty, I'm saying that other Americans obviously are. I literally called that attitude evil in the next sentence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 30 minutes ago, Nino said: My "of course" was my answer America brought us McDonald's. Tasty food that so readily availible and tasty that morons with no self control ruin their lives with it. Morons with no self control would just find something else to ruin their lives with if McDonalds didn't exist. I can't help that everyone in America has so much money and such great food that those things often collide in an ugly way, however they're still two great things on their own. There are no great things in any of what you've said. What better way to get support from your citizens than to convince them you've given them freedom, when all you've done is force them to need you? That is America's relationship with guns. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 16 minutes ago, ShockPop said: There are no great things in any of what you've said. What better way to get support from your citizens than to convince them you've given them freedom, when all you've done is force them to need you? That is America's relationship with guns. Americans have tons of money. Americans have access to instant, tasty meals. Those are two very great things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Just now, Nino said: Americans have tons of money. Americans have access to instant, tasty meals. Those are two very great things. Americans do not have lots of money. Let's not lie. There is nothing tasty about a manipulation heavy marketing campaign to sell kids salty fat. Just shoot them at birth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duella Dvil 12,042 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 hour ago, ShockPop said: Working on percentages alone, it's still a gun crazed loonatics playground. People are "obsessed" with things going on in America purely because it's so insane. People are shooting up schools regularly and the public are supporting the murderers right to have guns. You have a borderline terrorist billionaire heading for presidency. There is a massive chunk of America that are cult-level obsessed with Jesus. Land of the insane, home of the depraved. Than made me cum www.instagram.com/theduella666 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Just now, ShockPop said: Americans do not have lots of money. Our GDP says otherwise. We're by far the most financially prosperous single country on the planet. 1 minute ago, ShockPop said: There is nothing tasty about a manipulation heavy marketing campaign to sell kids salty fat. Yes a McDonalds burger tastes good and if you have a single burger like one or two times monthly then you won't be killing yourself. McDonalds has NEVER told people to buy massive amounts of food and go to their restaurants regularly, blaming them for any part of the global obesity problem is scapegoating. The problem is fat people, not companies that sell food to people. That's like saying Budweiser is responsible for alcoholism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 Just now, Nino said: Our GDP says otherwise. We're by far the most financially prosperous single country on the planet. Yes a McDonalds burger tastes good and if you have a single burger like one or two times monthly then you won't be killing yourself. McDonalds has NEVER told people to buy massive amounts of food and go to their restaurants regularly, blaming them for any part of the global obesity problem is scapegoating. The problem is fat people, not companies that sell food to people. That's like saying Budweiser is responsible for alcoholism. 1. The poverty levels in America day otherwise. 2. Education in America sucks if you're not born rich. 3. Supersizing & marketing moves have encouraged more regular use of McDonald's. Not that I condone fatness, but yeah.. Americans are generally dumb, poor & overweight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted February 13, 2016 Share Posted February 13, 2016 1 minute ago, ShockPop said: 1. The poverty levels in America day otherwise. 1. The poverty levels in America are much nicer looking than the global average 2 minutes ago, ShockPop said: 2. Education in America sucks if you're not born rich. 2. You're not American, you haven't experienced our education system so there's litearlly no ground for you to stand on there 3 minutes ago, ShockPop said: 3. Supersizing & marketing moves have encouraged more regular use of McDonald's. Not that I condone fatness, but yeah.. They never told one person to eat an entire supersized combo by themselves at once or to even buy them often. 4 minutes ago, ShockPop said: Americans are generally dumb, poor & overweight. Americas obesity rates are not the worst, obese people are NOT the majority here so that's a stupid generalization. Also see 1&2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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