Beyoncé - Formation

[Nicogly 2,579]

17 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

 The use of silly words like "nostrils." 

 Why is nostrils a silly word? I understand your arguments...but you lost me there

[lego 44,165]

On 2/13/2016 at 0:53 PM, Riot Poof said:

While GGD is going middle-aged Republican on Beyoncé

 

34 minutes ago, Riot Poof said:

Actual video of GGD members on the day "Formation" dropped:

Alternate link in case this doesn't work.

(If neither link works for non-American members, ya sh¡t outta luck.)

"Maybe... this song... isn't for us."

"BUT USUALLY EVERYTHING IS!"

 

I'm crying.  

[eifulien 3,003]

God knows I tried to like this well this thing, but I just can't. It's so cheap.  Her intentions were good, I believe. The video is fine, the message is very important although it's basically a Flawless 2.0 but with more emphasis on race rather than gender, and yet as a piece of music, as a song, it fails miserably. What happened to her strive to do something timeless? Where is her quality? She made 4 , it underperformed okay, but it's still one of the greatest records of the decade and the century, but then she backtracked on BEYONCÉ to some extent. And after that although I've enjoyed slightly her stuff it's just so generic and boring. Woman, get yo sh*t together you can do SO MUCH better than 7/11, Feeling Myself and Formation (good luck to her singing those songs in 15 years). If her next album is full of that Imma have to wait for B7 hopefully to be able to listen to her talent and true artistry.  

I love how fierce and powerful she is but she scrеwed up big time with this opportunity to make an anthem of sort. Instead she went the commercial way - trying to appeal the late teens/early 20-somethings that will dance in the club to Cause I slay, I slay, I slay, I slay, I slay, I slay, you slay, I slay, I slay, I slay. 

@StrawberryBlond I think you provided a very good unbiased objective observation on the song and and it's impact. I don't necessarily agree on 100% of the things you said in your posts, cause maybe I'm a big fan, but I'm not a delusional stan that rejects everything but the praise and bashes anyone who dares to express a negative opinion. Beyoncé has gone downhill after the self-titled and it was already a slight downstep from previous material (still very good) and I just can't at people who refuse to acknowledge it. She IS capable of MUCH more than what she has shown in 2014-2016. 

[Ziggy 12,243]

On 2/10/2016 at 10:30 PM, Wolf Boy said:

this post is contrived

Sorry you don't agree with me. I gave an honest opinion on the song to indicate that I'm not just hating on the song or bashing Beyonce as a fan of Gaga's. I really thought this was not her best work, though there are definitely some elements to the song that are praise-worthy. I'm sure there are plenty of "slay queen" posts to satiate your thirst for the basic, though. 

[lego 44,165]

 

 

[StrawberryBlond 15,024]

On 14/02/2016 at 5:41 PM, Nicogly said:

 Why is nostrils a silly word? I understand your arguments...but you lost me there

Don't you think it's silly? The "trils" part causes you to make a funny sound. We don't hear this word in songs because it's just too funny of a word. It just won't be taken seriously if you put that word there. I'm not the first music reviewer to say that if silly words appear in lyrics, their overall view of the song can be brought down and that there are certain words that are in a metaphorical, unspoken rule book that should never be used in a song. I believe nostrils would feature quite highly!

On 14/02/2016 at 6:37 PM, Son of ARTPOP said:

 

@StrawberryBlond I think you provided a very good unbiased objective observation on the song and and it's impact. I don't necessarily agree on 100% of the things you said in your posts, cause maybe I'm a big fan, but I'm not a delusional stan that rejects everything but the praise and bashes anyone who dares to express a negative opinion. Beyoncé has gone downhill after the self-titled and it was already a slight downstep from previous material (still very good) and I just can't at people who refuse to acknowledge it. She IS capable of MUCH more than what she has shown in 2014-2016. 

Understand that I think you are well within your rights to be a Beyonce fan. I just...struggle to understand what her fans see in her. Her arrogance always annoyed me and its got worse over time, along with her unhealthy obsession with perfection. I don't think her songs, for the most part, are all that. And the writing credits controversies are just too much for me to truly respect her as a songwriter. And a lot of her fans certainly annoy me. But you can still like what you like. As long as I'm free to exert my beliefs, I'll respect your right to assert yours. I'm glad you think that I was unbiased because I get accused of being biased a lot around here and I'm really not. If Beyonce does something genuinely good, I'll praise her and I have listed all my favourite songs from her before. I think her debut was her best, 4 her second best, but everything else is so meh to me. I think she's capable of much better too. She's too old for trying to make songs so clearly aimed at the young with modern slang. Madonna has been criticised for doing this as far back as 2003, why not her? I think her vocals haven't been as good on recent songs and they just seemed aimed more at appearing cool and making controversy now than about trying to be good. Albums like 4 were mature and were a step in the right direction and Beyonce wasn't a bad follow-up, but 7/11? Ring Off? Runnin'? Formation? It's not just fitting for a woman of her age, marital and maternal status. Why is she so focused on appearing young and cool lately? From what I've seen from musical history, trying to appeal to the young so extremely results in a career downturn. Like I said previously, just ask Madonna. Mature music sells better than people give it credit for - just ask Adele.

[comrade 33]

 

1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Don't you think it's silly? The "trils" part causes you to make a funny sound. We don't hear this word in songs because it's just too funny of a word. It just won't be taken seriously if you put that word there. I'm not the first music reviewer to say that if silly words appear in lyrics, their overall view of the song can be brought down and that there are certain words that are in a metaphorical, unspoken rule book that should never be used in a song. I believe nostrils would feature quite highly!

Understand that I think you are well within your rights to be a Beyonce fan. I just...struggle to understand what her fans see in her. Her arrogance always annoyed me and its got worse over time, along with her unhealthy obsession with perfection. I don't think her songs, for the most part, are all that. And the writing credits controversies are just too much for me to truly respect her as a songwriter. And a lot of her fans certainly annoy me. But you can still like what you like. As long as I'm free to exert my beliefs, I'll respect your right to assert yours. I'm glad you think that I was unbiased because I get accused of being biased a lot around here and I'm really not. If Beyonce does something genuinely good, I'll praise her and I have listed all my favourite songs from her before. I think her debut was her best, 4 her second best, but everything else is so meh to me. I think she's capable of much better too. She's too old for trying to make songs so clearly aimed at the young with modern slang. Madonna has been criticised for doing this as far back as 2003, why not her? I think her vocals haven't been as good on recent songs and they just seemed aimed more at appearing cool and making controversy now than about trying to be good. Albums like 4 were mature and were a step in the right direction and Beyonce wasn't a bad follow-up, but 7/11? Ring Off? Runnin'? Formation? It's not just fitting for a woman of her age, marital and maternal status. Why is she so focused on appearing young and cool lately? From what I've seen from musical history, trying to appeal to the young so extremely results in a career downturn. Like I said previously, just ask Madonna. Mature music sells better than people give it credit for - just ask Adele.

 

lmao

what about you shutting your lily white mouth and not trying to tell beyonce or any other black person what to do when you clearly have no clue 

"It's not just fitting for a woman of her age, marital and maternal status."

god, what are you, a 80 year old granny from a republican church choir?

[StrawberryBlond 15,024]

16 minutes ago, comrade said:

 

 

lmao

what about you shutting your lily white mouth and not trying to tell beyonce or any other black person what to do when you clearly have no clue 

"It's not just fitting for a woman of her age, marital and maternal status."

god, what are you, a 80 year old granny from a republican church choir?

Ridiculous how someone can be racist like you and nothing can be done about it because white racism isn't taken seriously. Where do you get off on equating someone's mouth to their race? Grow up. I'm not telling anyone what to do, I'm merely giving suggestions. Just giving a suggestion to someone of colour these days is perceived as trying to control them. Gimme a break.

So, because someone expresses an opinion outside the norm, they're suddenly an extreme stereotype? I'm a 26 year old and a liberal who never goes to church, thank you. When we grow, our opinions develop, we lose childish habits, we mature and our music should mature with us. Motherhood especially makes a lot of women very serious. Why has Beyonce's music become so immature after all she done (and she's allegedly even older than 34)? I'd be embarrassed to sing some of her new songs and I'm younger than her. You can make fun songs but still be mature about it.

[Nicogly 2,579]

@strawberryblonde So many artists have used silly words and that dont diminish their work. When they knwo how to loose in the work, and be down to earth and kind of poke fun at themselves, that is magic. What about the walrus for the beatles? was that too silly?...

[StrawberryBlond 15,024]

On 16/02/2016 at 4:39 AM, Nicogly said:

@strawberryblonde So many artists have used silly words and that dont diminish their work. When they knwo how to loose in the work, and be down to earth and kind of poke fun at themselves, that is magic. What about the walrus for the beatles? was that too silly?...

I can take one silly line, maybe two, but the whole song has to be good enough to make up for it. And Formation just isn't good enough to be a consolation. Yes, I find I Am The Walrus to be too silly. But understand I'm not a Beatles fan at all anyway, way too overrated to me. That song was written for the purpose of being nonsensical and so silly that no one could work out what it meant. And I don't see the point in such a song. I don't mind comedy songs if that's what they're expressly trying to be (The Lonely Island and Weird Al Yankovic are brilliant for this) but a song that's being silly with no real intelligence behind it, just random silliness? Can't deal with it. I take music too seriously for that.

[AM98GJ 3,086]

Mess at some of you thinking 4 is better than BEYONCÉ, the unfiltered, pure 100% MASTERPIECE. 

4 is good but it IS NOT on BEYONCÉ's level 

[Nicogly 2,579]

5 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I can take one silly line, maybe two, but the whole song has to be good enough to make up for it. And Formation just isn't good enough to be a consolation. Yes, I find I Am The Walrus to be too silly. But understand I'm not a Beatles fan at all anyway, way too overrated to me. That song was written for the purpose of being nonsensical and so silly that no one could work out what it meant. And I don't see the point in such a song. I don't mind comedy songs if that's what they're expressly trying to be (The Lonely Island and Weird Al Yankovic are brilliant for this) but a song that's being silly with no real intelligence behind it, just random silliness? Can't deal with it. I take music too seriously for that.

lets agree to disagree. 

[Arizonadream777 184]

On February 7, 2016 at 7:28 AM, comrade said:

not a chance and you know it.. gaga's just one of the mortals. only beyonce can drop a vid like this and have it scattered all around the web in a nano second and then be praised for it

Seems like you joined ggd just to bash gaga.  And Beyoncé is so overrated it's sickening.  Go away and join Beyoncé official message boards, it's where you belong.

[comrade 33]

13 minutes ago, Igeekgaga said:

Seems like you joined ggd just to bash gaga.  And Beyoncé is so overrated it's sickening.  Go away and join Beyoncé official message boards, it's where you belong.

how is that bashing gaga? she just isn't in the same league as beyonce, nothing i can do about it. no need to take that personally

[Arizonadream777 184]

20 minutes ago, comrade said:

how is that bashing gaga? she just isn't in the same league as beyonce, nothing i can do about it. no need to take that personally

No she's better than Beyoncé and it's so funny that you can't see that.  I'm not saying Beyoncé isn't talented I just think she's overrated and I also fined it interesting that you all of sudden joined this messageboard.  Almost like you have a motive but that's just me.