GloZell Green 11,723 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 2 hours ago, just4fun said: They are both criticized. Why didn't anyone criticize Jay-Z when he did his deal? Because he is a man. I thought it was because no one knew about his album Which was it again? Lady Gaga | Shakira Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 2 hours ago, freebit said: She was dragged up and down on my timeline yesterday. I guess it depends on where you look? Billboard sending out that shady tweet was quite blatant though. I also feel like The Grape Juice is basically Rih's equivalent of PwsDwn. I do think that if Rihanna hadn't had the RIAA certify her album she would have dodged that criticism and it would have been seen as a Dead Petz type release. well its not about where you look but people tend to overlook the hate others get and overrate the hate their fave gets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 1 minute ago, GloZell Green said: I thought it was because no one knew about his album Which was it again? Magna Carta Holy Grail, Samsung gave away 900k copies to their users for free Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 43 minutes ago, Paper Gangsta said: rihanna isn't claiming it, its how RIAA work. idk why everyone thinks its up to them to decide how should RIAA work. Rihanna didn't make up this rule. And no it wouldn't be fail to count 1,500 cause you actually get full album and you can listen it billion times. It's not RIAA's not Rihanna's fault people put in their head that certifications should be only about sales, it never was and never will be No, it isn't how RIAA works. It is how some artists manipulate their numbers or their sales to make it work. All artists and labels don't do this...count free copies as a copy sold or count 500K as Platinum. The ones that do are the ones that are making a joke out of the certification they are claiming they have. It is Rihanna's fault. She is claiming to have a Platinum selling album and ghost sing the case. She is part of the problem, not a result of the problem. She didn't have to make this claim and go forward with a certification. Rihanna is the one making a false claim. She can't even make the excuse that the record label is doing it, like some artists can do. This is all on her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 3 minutes ago, Whispering said: No, it isn't how RIAA works. It is how some artists manipulate their numbers or their sales to make it work. All artists and labels don't do this...count free copies as a copy sold of count 500K as Platinum. The ones that do are the ones that are making a joke out of the certification they are claiming they have. It is Rihanna's fault. She is claiming to have a Platinum selling album and ghost sing the case. She is part of the problem, not a result of the problem. She didn't have to make this claim and go forward with a certification. Rihanna is the one making a false claim. She can't even make the excuse that the record label is doing it, like some artists can do. This is all on her. it is how RIAA works cause every time situation like this happened they counted it. Rihanna isn't claiming anything, it is platinum by RIAA's standards there is no any problem. She didn't make any false claim lol. As I said it's not RIAA's nor Rihanna's fault some people assume "platinum" equals to "million copies SOLD" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, Paper Gangsta said: it is how RIAA works cause every time situation like this happened they counted it. Rihanna isn't claiming anything, it is platinum by RIAA's standards there is no any problem. She didn't make any false claim lol. As I said it's not RIAA's nor Rihanna's fault some people assume "platinum" equals to "million copies SOLD" An artist doesn't have to certify an album. RIAA doesn't MAKE anyone certify anything and it isn't going to step in and do it for the artist. This is not how "RIAA works", this is how Rihanna us working it! She is free to make that claim, just like any artist could claim that they are Platinum after a few hundred thousand copies have been sold. That doesn't mean that people and the rest of the music industry won't look at those claims as false and as a joke, because that's exactly what they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 13 minutes ago, JackTheTripper said: I newer said Brabados doesnt have amazing vocalist (but rihanna isnt one of them), this woman in your link is faaar far superior than rihanna, yet no one even knows about her, and she is not promoted as heavily as rihanna, or doenst even make 1/100 of what she is making.... do you now understand what the problem is here? The lead singer of this group has two solo albums out, but isn't widely known. Another singer in that group is also award-winning in Barbados amid strong competition. I agree it's a shame they aren't more widely known. If you watch that entire video you will find that the lady in the black and white dress is a stronger and more expressive singer than Nate Reuss is in the Pink MV of that song. And personally, I like the lady on the right better than Pink herself. On your topic, I think getting the breaks and finding the right self-promotion avenues is key if you are talented. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant 85 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Rihanna very much is criticized though, in a way, even moreso than Gaga. Because even when she makes a solid record, shes still given a 50 rating. Whereas Gaga catapulted to commercial and critical acclaim right off the bat. Making her both a target and having higher expectations. People don't respect Rihanna, people respect Gaga. Had Rihanna made ARTPOP, its metacritic rating would've been in the 40s or low 50s. Gaga at least managed a 61 (lazy example but you get me). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freebit 6,240 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 35 minutes ago, Paper Gangsta said: well its not about where you look but people tend to overlook the hate others get and overrate the hate their fave gets. This is true. I remember I once conversed with someone (that was clearly part of the Hive) that claimed Beyonce was more criticized than Gaga - this was in the ARTPOP era . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paper Gangsta 6,693 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 12 minutes ago, freebit said: This is true. I remember I once conversed with someone (that was clearly part of the Hive) that claimed Beyonce was more criticized than Gaga - this was in the ARTPOP era . lmao Hive are whining that Bey is criticized even when you don't say anything bad, all you have to do is not to praise her to the heavens and you will be called a hater Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,865 Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 I guess because Rihanna's always been considered cool...until now. When you're cool in the music business, you can be untouchable. But when you're no longer considered cool because you got older/lost your looks/stopped making generic music/had gone through your peak, etc. suddenly, the public aren't so forgiving. And I notice that the public aren't being as lenient towards Rihanna as they once were. Which I hope is finally the sign that her time is up. She has vastly outstayed her welcome for such an untalented "artist." I really don't like to see these puppets continue to get success when they have little to no input in their work. They only deserve a very small period of success, tops, and Rihanna has been around for over a decade, still trying to prove to us that she's some sort of artiste. But now the tables have turned. She's broken her trust with the public by going away for so long, coming back with experimental singles and then turning her back on them all to make a much-delayed album of even more experimental songs. The public who love her generic stuff aren't feeling it at all and will abandon her accordingly, meaning that even if she goes back to being generic again, she's unlikely to succeed. Gaga however, can regain the public's trust because she has the talent to offer us more than just sexuality and genericism as she gets older and wiser whereas Rihanna is unlikely ever to make truly great work, especially on her own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted February 1, 2016 Author Share Posted February 1, 2016 On 1/30/2016 at 0:08 PM, Deviant said: Rihanna very much is criticized though, in a way, even moreso than Gaga. Because even when she makes a solid record, shes still given a 50 rating. Whereas Gaga catapulted to commercial and critical acclaim right off the bat. Making her both a target and having higher expectations. People don't respect Rihanna, people respect Gaga. Had Rihanna made ARTPOP, its metacritic rating would've been in the 40s or low 50s. Gaga at least managed a 61 (lazy example but you get me). Well, here you are implying Gaga is a bad album or that is not a good as its score. And I ARTPOP is actually a good album. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E24187 615 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Billboard isn't agreeing she's platinum any way. And she's definitely getting dragged. And rightfully so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
E24187 615 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 Billboard isn't agreeing she's platinum any way. And she's definitely getting dragged. And rightfully so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papasquat 517 Posted February 1, 2016 Share Posted February 1, 2016 I guess they probably do. But, since we're gaga stans, we follow her more closely, and pay attention to all of her draggings. Filthy Brushes... Conjunctivitis... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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