Asylum Seekers Banned from a German Pool

[theMonster5 74]

Male asylum seekers have been banned from a public swimming pool in Bornheim, Germany, after women complained that they were being harassed. Bornheim is a small town 20 km south of Cologne, where more than 100 women were allegedly sexually assaulted by a large group of men on New Year's Eve. Many of these men were said to be asylum-seekers, and the attacks have lead to an increase in hostility towards German's large refugee population. Germany is set to introduce new ID cards for refugees in February, which may help officials in Bornheim to put this ruling into practice. The decision by Bornheim officials comes as public opinion turns against the 1.1 million refugees who claimed asylum in Germany last year.

Germany is now paying the price when the Liberal Fools allowed 1.1 million refugees into the country, who mostly can't read/speak German and are highly jobless so will be on government assistant for a very long time.

Read the article.

This is what some Germans are saying about the refugee attackers.

Wow, where to start. So the answer is to put the blame for these attacks on men in general. Lumping half of the population in the same group as organised sex attackers is fine but pointing out that cultural attitudes which openly oppress women and limit their choices in life could have had a part to play in this situation is wrong and bigoted. Yes rape already exists but when was the last time gangs of German men deliberately set to intimidate women going about their lives, through violence and sexual assault in an organised attack. To also just blame men is a disturbingly similar attitude which compels women to cover their bodies, hair even faces lest they bring on rape, you know because that's what men do. This piece also reminds me of Rotherham where priorities of justice and acknowledgment of the suffering of the real victims, the victims of rape and torture, trying to understand why and how it happened came second to the fact that the far right might jump on the band wagon and the situation would cause tensions. Stop treating criticism of any culture other than western culture as automatic racism and xenophobia. You will find many people from these cultures making the same criticisms and fighting for reform, struggling to do so because they are being branded bigots too.

So that Oktberfest argument !! The commentator can not see the difference between isolated instances of eve teasing and an organized, coordinated attack of a 1000 strong "men" whose only claim to the gender was anatomical. And yes..there is also that small issue of gratitude. If some one has been kind during your time of distress and sheltered you in his home you should feel indebted. What kind of swine goes and misbehaves with the benefactor's daughter. Angela Merkel, if sane, should immediately deport these god forsaken beggars after giving them a sound thrashing. I wonder how Saudi Arabia would have reacted under a similar outrage.

[Better Day 5,766]

You again promoting far right facism

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shut the **** up

[Sudarshana 581]

here comes a mature conversation 

I agree with you. Get civilized, get a job, learn the language — then enjoy the rights other Germans have.

[SlaeUrAnus 16,111]

Just now, Sudarshana said:

here comes a mature conversation 

I agree with you. Get civilized, get a job, learn the language — then enjoy the rights other Germans have.

I think the main problem here is trying to integrate 2 different cultures. 

[Sudarshana 581]

Just now, SlaeUrAnus said:

I think the main problem here is trying to integrate 2 different cultures. 

I think the main problem is sexual assault

[SlaeUrAnus 16,111]

Just now, Sudarshana said:

I think the main problem is sexual assault

But why are some doing it though? That is what I want to know.

Is it their culture, their beliefs, their views on women or are some of them just twisted?

[Sudarshana 581]

5 minutes ago, SlaeUrAnus said:

But why are some doing it though? That is what I want to know.

Is it their culture, their beliefs, their views on women or are some of them just twisted?

not really the culture, but lack thereof I think. people take being civilized for granted, but for some it's yet to be done.

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9 minutes ago, SlaeUrAnus said:

But why are some doing it though? That is what I want to know.

Is it their culture, their beliefs, their views on women or are some of them just twisted?

No it's not their culture. The criminals have no culture. Those attackers in Cologne were from several different countries. There have always been criminals trying to get to EU countries together with war refugees, like it happened during the Balkan wars in the 90s, so many entered with fake IDs; only this refugee crisis is a lot bigger. 

[theMonster5 74]

34 minutes ago, Sudarshana said:

here comes a mature conversation 

I agree with you. Get civilized, get a job, learn the language — then enjoy the rights other Germans have.

They just want to come over and overpopulate Germany, take all they can get out of the German people. Then when they become the majority they will vote for Sharia Laws that will kill democracy of the West. Check out this Sharia Watch website and beware of the coming doom of Europe with this invading refugees. In 100 years, Europe will be doomed with Sharia Laws, and your great-great grandkids will live under its rule.

Sharia legal procedures differ dramatically from western processes in that the use of lawyers is not common, and decisions are made by a judge only – there is no jury system.  The law of evidence is also vastly different from what we are used to in the west.  Oral testimony is prioritised in terms of evidence and the testimony of witnesses is afforded different legal weight – for example a man’s testimony is worth more than a woman’s, and a Muslim’s testimony is worth more than that of a non-Muslim. 

Sharia Watch UK is not concerned with the personal and private elements of sharia, which all people have a right to practice provided they do not break the law.  We are concerned only with the criminal and political elements of sharia law, and we aim to inform the reader of what these are and how they are currently manifested in Britain.

 

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15 minutes ago, theMonster5 said:

They just want to come over and overpopulate Germany, take all they can get out of the German people. Then when they become the majority they will vote for Sharia Laws that will kill democracy of the West. Check out this Sharia Watch website and beware of the coming doom of Europe with this invading refugees. In 100 years, Europe will be doomed with Sharia Laws, and your great-great grandkids will live under its rule.

Sharia legal procedures differ dramatically from western processes in that the use of lawyers is not common, and decisions are made by a judge only – there is no jury system.  The law of evidence is also vastly different from what we are used to in the west.  Oral testimony is prioritised in terms of evidence and the testimony of witnesses is afforded different legal weight – for example a man’s testimony is worth more than a woman’s, and a Muslim’s testimony is worth more than that of a non-Muslim. 

Sharia Watch UK is not concerned with the personal and private elements of sharia, which all people have a right to practice provided they do not break the law.  We are concerned only with the criminal and political elements of sharia law, and we aim to inform the reader of what these are and how they are currently manifested in Britain.

May I ask your religion ?

[Sudarshana 581]

17 minutes ago, theMonster5 said:

They just want to come over and overpopulate Germany, take all they can get out of the German people. Then when they become the majority they will vote for Sharia Laws that will kill democracy of the West. Check out this Sharia Watch website and beware of the coming doom of Europe with this invading refugees. In 100 years, Europe will be doomed with Sharia Laws, and your great-great grandkids will live under its rule.

I'm sure the majority of immigrants don't want that, so I doubt that what's you're saying might happen in 100 years.

It's pretty much what happened to the Roman Empire, which ended up taking Christianity and was destroyed by the Germanic immigrants that it welcomed. But I don't think Europeans are stupid enough to make that happen, although sometimes I think they are ...

[theMonster5 74]

21 minutes ago, AlphaMonster said:

May I ask your religion ?

I'm agnostic but I have read about Christianity and Islam. Islam is a much greater threat to freedom than Christianity.

[AlphaMonster 1,806]

1 hour ago, theMonster5 said:

So that Oktberfest argument !! The commentator can not see the difference between isolated instances of eve teasing and an organized, coordinated attack of a 1000 strong "men" whose only claim to the gender was anatomical. And yes..there is also that small issue of gratitude. If some one has been kind during your time of distress and sheltered you in his home you should feel indebted. What kind of swine goes and misbehaves with the benefactor's daughter. Angela Merkel, if sane, should immediately deport these god forsaken beggars after giving them a sound thrashing. I wonder how Saudi Arabia would have reacted under a similar outrage.

First of all let me comment on this "thing"  This paragraph literally says that man is superior to woman... Their only claim to the gender was anatomical ? Yes because there are high ethic and moral standards to become a male. 

Summary:
First Paragraph: The reason why western europe is more civilized is explained for a better understanding of the correlation and causation relationships between syrian immigrants and these incidents.  
Rest: Built on the knowledge presented in 1st paragraph, how the author and the sharer of text are completely in a Dunning-Kruger Syndrome explained. Example presented to how an actually enlightened aka civilized person would think on such issues.

Once upon a time, christian lands were very uncivilized. Middle Age, of course. History works together with causes and consequences. The most civilized of middle age was muslims. Than european kingdoms discovered the new world by chance. Goods of this new world reduced famine which was a common reality of that time. If you look at the maslow's hierarchy of needs, you would see that physiological needs are the most important ones. You can see that wealth and development have always gone together. Development needs innovation, innovation needs creativity and free time. After reducing famine, many other factors added in europe, small factors which added up to something big. One example of this small factor is that after Ottoman Empire conquered Constantinople (Istanbul), idea leaders of Byzantium mostly went to Italy and presented their knowledge as a result of coming into contact with catholic geography. Now, renaissance and le siecle des lumieres are practically beginning of modern western civilization. But the important thing is to notice that most idea leaders in these times ,who started everything that keeps increasing exponentially up until today, were not christians for most time. 
Christians are members of another religion that were illuminated by atheists who dared to break dogmas. Even if you check out demographics of legit scientific organizations, you would see that christians are a small minority. Christians are not better than muslims in anyways. It is just the flow of history. The level of ignorance in this text is so high. 
I do not know from where christians get the idea that they are more civilized. Christians are just manipulated to be in this way like how most members of all religions are manipulated easily even today. What do these things change ? It shows the unsubstantiated arrogances towards unrelated characteristics of people. Correlation does not mean causation. Remember that you are just a member of group who happened to be luckier lately. Your will is not in where you were born. Your will can be on how enlightened you are but if the author or sharer was actually enlightened, we would not have to torture our eyes and our brains by reading this b*llsh*t. 
And note that the person who wrote this might not be christian, can be anything actually. But it is a just another member of the herd. I constantly used the word "christian" to have a more consistent pronoun and to avoid confusions between geographies. 
Christianity is not better than Islam, Islam is not the direct cause of problems. This is just a result of coincidences in history that is far more complicated than the logic that one religion is more peaceful and open to progress than the other. 

And What if author was not the member of the herd aka ideological slave ???? 

If the author was enlightened: 
There might be a correlation between these misdemeanors and immigrants but it does not mean a causation. I literally gave a lecture about illumination so this logic will be easy to understand: Syria is a less educated country compared to Germany. Level of education and culture is the cause. So what could be done ? There had to be a better plan to integrate immigrants into society. How could it be done ? There could be refugee camps where they teach immigrants German. Educated immigrants would have been accepted earlier. Specifically highly educated immigrants could have been chosen by government and lent loan with interest at the level of inflation to create businesses with condition to have certain % of syrian immigrant worker quota. And some other educated syrian immigrants could have been chosen to organize teams to work for ministry of immigration to make sure immigrants are learning german ... Number of immigrants could have been adjusted for constraints. As a result, syrian immigrants would have a place to live and german economy would benefit from it. 

What has been said above is an example. But this is the way enlightened people approach to these issues. But the text you shared and your ideas scream ignorance in a way that the very clear line between causation and correlation is even blurred. 

[theMonster5 74]

Read this article and be alarmed.

Spoiler

A MESSAGE TO LEFT-WING FEMINISTS

By Anne Marie Waters January 12th  2016

I have no intention of launching an attack on Laurie Penny for her New Statesman article. What good would it do? All I want from her, and feminists who share her views, is that they read I write below and try to absorb it. This is important. It is a direct message to all feminists who support the massive and unprecedented immigration that Europe is experiencing now, and has experienced for the last couple of decades. It is not enough to dismiss us all as racists and bigots, this may make you feel more comfortable but it simply isn’t true. It isn’t bigotry or racism to observe and acknowledge reality, and there are some harsh realities that I wish you would take on board. I’m aware that as dyed-in-the-wool left-wingers, these realities will not sit well with you but they are real nonetheless.

Harsh reality number one – we are not “all equal”.

Leftists are absolutely wedded to the notion that we are all alike, that we all share the same values, and we all want harmony and justice. We don’t. Like it or not, there are a lot of people out there who want violence and misogyny, who want the right to marry off their daughters, or to mutilate their genitals. Some people are rapists, some are jihadists, and some take great pleasure from tearing the clothes from a woman in a public square on New Year’s Eve. This leftist naivety that causes you to sanctimoniously advocate for open borders on behalf of your fellow human being doesn’t take any account of the fact that the executioner is a fellow human being, the sharia oppressor is a human being, the mutilator is a human being. Not all human beings have good intentions, try to learn that and then use your common sense to determine who you want to have around you, and who you do not.

But here’s the one that leftists really don’t like – not all cultures are equal either. Some cultures are far superior to others, this is nowhere more evident than on the treatment of women. You rightly point out that sexual assault is a serious matter regardless of where it takes place, but the fact of the matter is that these attacks did not take place in Germany prior to now, and German men were not responsible for them. These were attacks carried out by immigrants in Germany, and most have come from Muslim-majority countries.

Rape rates are exploding all over Europe; Norway, Denmark, Finland, Austria, Germany, and especially Sweden. Most of these rapes are not being committed by native men, but by migrants, most of them from the Muslim world.

You said in your article that misogyny has no colour or creed. Colour yes, but creed? You must be joking! Doesn’t it ever occur to left-wing feminists that the treatment of women in the Islamic world is not only appalling by Western standards, but by any standards. When it comes to misogyny, the Islamic world is quite simply head and shoulders above the rest. Why do you think that is? What could it possibly be? Could it be because Islamic scripture teaches men that women are beneath them? That they can use violence against women that won’t submit?

Everywhere that Islam has influence, women suffer because of it. The severity varies certainly but I would argue that it varies depending upon how much influence Islam actually has.

Sharia law, a law based on Islam, is uniquely terrible to women. Her testimony is worth half of a man’s, she has little to no rights over her children, her husband is permitted to hit her if she is disobedient, and she has no unilateral right to divorce. You need to confront this reality, and realise that it is right here in Britain, and thriving. Even if you argue that sharia councils are a matter of choice, which they’re not, are you happy with the availability of that choice? Do you think treating women like that is something we should be able to choose to do? Or should it be disallowed on principle? Are you aware that sharia family law, as practiced in Britain, was declared by the House of Lords (in its legal capacity) as “wholly incompatible” with basic human rights, precisely because of its treatment of women? Why aren’t you, as a feminist, speaking out about that?

In no other culture in the world do the law books permit the stoning to death of women for adultery.

Another harsh reality is this: not all religions are the same.

To argue that they are is to argue that the religion itself, its scripture and its practices, aren’t actually relevant. That is an absurd position. I will save you the trouble of “but the Bible…” and remind you of the centuries of secularisation that Western society has undergone, as well as moderation and reform within Christianity itself. Today, the Western world is not influenced in any significant way by Biblical literalism. The Islamic world, on the other hand, is enormously influenced by Quranic literalism, so much so that you can be executed (by law of the land) for questioning or criticising it. These are two different worlds feminists, and like it or not, they are not compatible.

Immigration is bringing Islamic norms, and Islamic attitudes towards women, to the West, and it is making free women less free, and safe women less safe. The reason what is happening in Europe is so shocking is not because European women are more important than other women, it’s because we’re seeing a reduction in the safety of previously safe women. We are seeing a reduction in the freedom of previously free women. We are turning back the clock on all of the achievements that have been made in the Western world. This is bad news for all women, regardless of where they live.

You appear to ignore and dismiss these achievements and speak as if things are as bad for women here as everywhere else. They’re not of course, but they soon could be, thanks to immigration from the Muslim world. Do you honestly think women’s position is no worse in Egypt or Somalia than it is in the UK? If you do, you simply cannot be taken seriously. If you won’t acknowledge and condemn the very worst treatment of women that exists in the world, why should I listen to you about anything related to feminism?

Last year, the film Suffragette was released. Personally, I found it somewhat disappointing in that it failed to sufficiently demonstrate the importance of a woman’s vote, and what her life was like beforehand. But I was far more disappointed to see the memory of these astonishing women smeared and slandered by leftists who attacked them as “racist” (what else?) The reason leftists are beginning to smear great Western achievements is the same reason left-wing feminists are more concerned about those of us protesting Muslim immigration than you are about rape, a deep-seated hatred of all things Western. Somewhere deep in the dark crevices of the soul, lefties believe that Europeans deserve to suffer: even moreso when those Europeans are white.

This despicable attack on the Suffragettes demonstrates a far wider and deeper sickness in the thinking of the “equality” obsessed left, and indeed a complete lack of understanding of what it was those women achieved. Thanks to the Suffragettes, women went from being property to owning property, and politicians began caring very much indeed what women were thinking. It was the greatest single achievement for women in modern history. And now their memory is tainted, thanks to the despicable Left.

The final harsh reality is this, and I’m glad I’m not the one who has to face it: you are contributing, quite significantly, to ensuring that 10,000s of women, who would not otherwise have faced sexual assault or rape, will now do so.

Women will be raped because of your demand for open borders and your insistence that those of us who oppose them are racists or bigots. You won’t recognise the realities of life in any way, and are more than happy to allow rape in furtherance of your politics. You must be – you know it is happening and you still haven’t condemned the open borders that caused it.

I sincerely hope that at least some left-wing feminists wake up in 2016, and realise the enormity of the damage they are causing. I hope too that they grow up and stop focusing on ridiculous trivialities and realise just what danger they’re in. Stop attacking good men (I have many great men in my life, you should try it), families, decent conservatives, or sexy adverts, and start defending your civil rights; your right to vote, to protection from violence, to education, to marry who you choose, to petition for divorce, to rights over your children, to own property, to work…. The rights, in other words, the Suffragettes won for you and that every Islamist on the planet would happily take away.

It’s time for the harsh realities feminists. Women’s rights, actual civil rights, are in trouble in Europe. This is important and feminists are going to have to step up. But you don’t. Instead, you attack those of us who do. Shame on you.

Finally, a few words on Pegida. I understand that many will worry about walking with Pegida due to the undeserved reputation, but I would implore people to remember: those who allowed women to be sexually assaulted en masse, and covered it up, are the same people who call Pegida “far-right”.

These are the people who apparently did not have the resources to defend women from attack, but suddenly found troops and water cannons to stamp on democratic protest. This is where we are.

If a Government keeps its borders open to known dangers, while clamping down on those who protest, I know with whom I’ll be standing. It’s where a real feminist would stand, and I sincerely hope others will join me.