Macklemore disses Iggy + Miley

[PunkTheFunk 123,507]

1 minute ago, Lance said:

Iggy has never exploited Black culture. She just raps. That's about it.

"Iggy Azalea is a White woman from Australia who sounds Australian in interviews or when out in public, but raps in a Black American accent – performing what has been dubbed vocal blackface – and a particularly southern one, using Black American slang.  Like many other Black female rappers, she presents a “bad bitch” image of herself and, through usages of urban Black cultural symbols and actual Black people as props in her music videos, she attempts to connect herself to urban Black culture and urban Black spaces. Take, for example, her music video for her song “Pu*sy” (you can check it out here http://vimeo.com/29514207) which went viral in 2011 and was the video that first got her looks from major record labels.  [...] It’s rife with cultural appropriation, and blatantly so.  The video looks like every rap video filmed in the hood in the early 2000s.  It’s problematic for so many reasons.  It reinforces for her White audience negative stereotypes about urban Black people and their culture.  From the blatant association of Black men with drugs and aggression, to the subtle association of even Black children with guns and violence, to the hypersexualization of, and characterization of Black women as promiscuous through the images of Black women licking ice cream to the sound of the song’s raunchy lyrics, the video hits on almost every Black stereotype in the book.  Also problematic is the image of the elderly Black woman adding water to Iggy’s cereal bowl when they run out of milk, associating Black people with desperation and poverty.  

To White youth, this is “ghetto” Black culture (a term which I hate: it’s racist: it’s used to stigmatize and belittle urban Black culture because of its distance from mainstream cultural norms), a culture that is different from and beneath their own.  But at the same time, they are fascinated by this culture and they think it’s cool.  Black urban youth have long set the trend for what becomes popular among American youth nationally, be it how we dress, the slang we use, the dances we invent, or the music we create.  By associating herself with Black people and with Black culture, and by pretending to be a Black woman – though she’s one of only two White people in the entire video – Iggy earns cool points with her White audience who buy her records and pay for her concert tickets.  White kids already pay for Black culture from Black artists, but they are even more willing to buy it from a White artist who they can see themselves in.  So Iggy has achieved a level of success that other Black women artists doing the same things have not been able to achieve because, frankly, White people can sell Black culture to White people better than Black people can.  Iggy profits from exploiting Black culture and Black people while simultaneously degrading the culture and the people she’s exploiting."

https://myblackmindd.wordpress.com/2014/12/23/white-people-continue-to-remind-us-that-black-culture-is-popular-black-people-are-not/

[ThisGuyTony 29,089]

I guess he needed people to talk about his new music after that messy Downtown song didn't do that well...

[SissyFromSpace 20,883]

1 minute ago, PunkTheFunk said:

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Iggy rapping in a Southern accent and its America's fault some Black female rappers cant become mainstream. Not Iggy's fault.

[Dominic 11,922]

Appropriating culture?  

Still makes me laugh.

Remember when Nicki appropriated white culture by dying her hair blonde and rapping in an English accent? 

[Sizzily 14,543]

Just now, Lance said:

Iggy rapping in a Southern accent and its America's fault some Black female rappers cant become mainstream. Not Iggy's fault.

This is correct. There are people of every race that talk this way here in the south. But I think most people attribute it to black people.

[SissyFromSpace 20,883]

1 minute ago, Dominic Marc said:

Appropriating culture?  

Still makes me laugh.

Remember when Nicki appropriated white culture by dying her hair blonde and rapping in an English accent? 

and when she mixed various asian cultures and rapped about speaking in Thai

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[PunkTheFunk 123,507]

1 minute ago, Lance said:

Iggy rapping in a Southern accent and its America's fault some Black female rappers cant become mainstream. Not Iggy's fault.

There's nothing wrong with her rapping per se; what she's doing, as you probably saw in my post, is degrading Black culture by turning it into a punchline. She has absolutely no respect for rap music or its origins but uses it for her own gain. That's exploitation in my book. I'm not a big fan of Macklemore but at least he has some semblance of respect for rap and Black culture in general and uses his platform to call out white privilege & speak out on issues that affect Black people in America.

[SissyFromSpace 20,883]

Just now, PunkTheFunk said:

There's nothing wrong with her rapping per se; what she's doing, as you probably saw in my post, is degrading Black culture by turning it into a punchline. She has absolutely no respect for rap music or its origins

Stopped reading there. I can post countless of articles and interviews to dismiss your claims. People THINK Iggy doesn't respect the rap genre, but she does. they dont do their homework.

[DiscoHeaven23 35,007]

didn't Macklemore do the same thing...

[Alien Tulip 12,428]

7 minutes ago, Dominic Marc said:

Appropriating culture?  

Still makes me laugh.

Remember when Nicki appropriated white culture by dying her hair blonde and rapping in an English accent? 

Nicki is just a contradiction  

I will post this classic read 

"Nicki Minaj sits at her vanity. She inserts her blue contacts and brushes her long, straight, platinum blonde wig. Her skin glows white with foundation. She adjusts her breast implants in her tank top and squeezes her butt implants into a pair of tight jeans. Then she picks up her phone to tweet that she was snubbed by the VMAs because the media favors white-friendly images and supports negative body images."

[PunkTheFunk 123,507]

5 minutes ago, Dominic Marc said:

Appropriating culture?  

Still makes me laugh.

Remember when Nicki appropriated white culture by dying her hair blonde and rapping in an English accent? 

Cultural appropriation doesn't work both ways.

"There is no such thing as reverse racism. [...] In summary, because minority groups don’t have inter-generational privilege we can wield against whites (thereby limiting their possible wealth, educational, employment, and/or environmental outcomes), we really have no way of being racist against them. Racism requires power. Without it negative racial feelings might be discriminatory but they certainly aren’t racist. Any racial animus held by minority groups toward whites cannot be set apart on its own as an initial offense because we have already experienced centuries of targeted racial oppression from whites. So, the point of reverse racism is moot.

Now, cultural appropriation is the act of taking the very physical, mental, or social features of a minority group which are used to belittle, mischaracterize, and otherwise isolate them and embody those features for personal social entertainment or monetary gain. When Katy Perry – a white girl from Santa Barbara – dons bejeweled grill pieces, long fake nails, and gelled down ‘baby hairs’ to promote her new video for the song ‘How We Do,’ she isn’t appreciating ‘black culture’. She can’t be because she only features stark stereotypes of black women in her imagery. In the new video, while satirizing black women, she answers a phone call from her friend “Jessica Thot” or “Jessica That Ho Over There.” The term”THOT” is extremely demeaning to black women and has been used by street harassers seeking to devalue black women’s bodies. Surely Perry knows that.

Minority groups can mock white people. They can mimic dominant culture. They can even completely assimilate into “respectable behavior” if they so choose. There are levels of social benefits and costs to doing so. But, minority groups will never be able to appropriate ‘white culture’ in a way that is harmful or damaging to whites in the aggregate. White complexity is never denied nor questioned while minority group identities are countered with dangerous and even deadly caricatures."

http://watercoolerconvos.com/2014/08/13/racism-doesnt-work-both-ways-and-neither-does-cultural-appropriation/

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I keep quoting articles because I'm not good at putting this into words myself

 

[Dominic 11,922]

Just now, Alien Tulip said:

Nicki is just a contradiction  

I will post this classic read 

"Nicki Minaj sits at her vanity. She inserts her blue contacts and brushes her long, straight, platinum blonde wig. Her skin glows white with foundation. She adjusts her breast implants in her tank top and squeezes her butt implants into a pair of tight jeans. Then she picks up her phone to tweet that she was snubbed by the VMAs because the media favors white-friendly images and supports negative body images."

What a brilliant post.   Thank you. 

[SexXDreams 184]

He and Iggy are both the biggest posers in the music biz, so idk why he's calling anyone out.

[gagaisitalian 3,573]

I cannot stand that guy. NEVER could. He's so ****ing annoying and irrelevant.

[MindVomiting 303]

macklemore is just as untalented as iggy

miley has talent at least rven if i dont like her nor her music