Alien Tulip 12,428 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Teri Hatcher said: Elton is an idiot he can go listen to music from the 1800s or whatever. ARTPOP was an excellent album imo. Bite me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,115 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 I have listened to ARTPOP pretty continuously since its release, and... I honestly don't know where people are getting anything that approaches bad. "Jewels N Drugs" was perhaps a misfire, but still an enjoyable track. Apart from that, there are tremendous melodies and lyrics that fall perfectly in line with what Gaga has written before (her lyrics have always fell on the side of overtly metaphorical and borderline ridiculous). "Sexxx Dreams", "Venus", "Aura", "Gypsy", "Mary Jane", "Do What U Want", "ARTPOP", "Applause", "Fashion!", "GUY", "Dope"... just going down the track listing, these are easily up to par with what she has done before, and tbh nothing here reaches the lows of "Bad Kids" or "Americano". Even the lesser tracks ("MANiCURE", "Swine") are infused with Gaga's signature music and energy. Whatever, nothing that Sir Elton says has diminished my affection for this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 2 minutes ago, Justinn said: I think some people genuinely do like the album and that's great. However I want people to think for themselves and I don't think that's always the case. I know some people don't like the album, and that's fine for me. But if that person deems others to be 'in delusion' or 'in denial' when he doesn't agree with them, it's wrong. @Yanko not quoting you to fight with you but you should really consider RESPECTING other people by not always disparaging them when they don't stand on your side. You can state a thousand reasons why you hate ARTPOP, but stop calling other people delusional, it's lame, arrogant and shallow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 11 minutes ago, Edward Hardy said: I know some people don't like the album, and that's fine for me. But if that person deems others to be 'in delusion' or 'in denial' when he doesn't agree with them, it's wrong. @Yanko not quoting you to fight with you but you should really consider RESPECTING other people by not always disparaging them when they don't stand on your side. You can state a thousand reasons why you hate ARTPOP, but stop calling other people delusional, it's lame, arrogant and shallow. just like enigma saying eltons opinion is wrong and saying that he doesnt like the album cause it flopped i do not need your lecturing i never even used the word delusional in this thread and the denial comment is clearly playfull and nothing more but you cant really comprehend what i post so i suggest you ignore me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilla 13,382 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 42 minutes ago, Justinn said: This works both ways. I have reached my breaking point when it comes to people coming after others for DISLIKING ARTPOP. Disliking ARTPOP doesn't make you a bad person. People can agree to disagree but no one is going to tell me I'm wrong for having my own opinion. And I find it absolutely mind-blowing that members would trash a musical legend who has been singing and writing longer than Gaga, just because he said ARTPOP wasn't good. don't think I'm attacking you personally because I'm not. All I was saying before you took offense and assumed I was targeting you is that it's NOT okay for ANYONE to denounce or attack someone for an opinion. If I was talking to you directly I would have quoted you as I am now. I also don't agree with people bashing Elton but of course some stans go there, we both know this 𝙸'𝚖 𝚊 𝚓𝚘𝚛𝚝𝚜 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚓𝚎𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚜𝚑𝚘𝚎𝚜 𝚔𝚒𝚗𝚍 𝚘𝚏 𝚐𝚒𝚛𝚕. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman 189 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 5 minutes ago, Justinn said: I think some people genuinely do like the album and that's great. However I want people to think for themselves and I don't think that's always the case. Is a delusional like for ARTPOP going to be used in the DSM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 6 minutes ago, Yanko said: just like enigma saying eltons opinion is wrong and saying that he doesnt like the album cause it flopped i do not need your lecturing I don't agree with Enigma outrightly calling Elton's opinion wrong though, in fact I defended Elton and said he's entitled to his own opinion. But you claiming other people to be 'in denial' is just like Enigma saying Elton's opinion is 'wrong'. Btw, that wasn't meant to 'lecture' you, can't you take it the good way? That was meant as a suggestion, you decide for yourself. So if you think there's nothing wrong with calling others delusional and be 'in denial', go ahead and do that again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray of Light 8,134 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 Elton John, Lady Gaga, most fans, every awards committee, the critics, and the GP all agree that ARTPOP is a terrible album. We don't need these silly threads like these; they'll never take away even an ounce of its terrible reputation, inconsistency, vapidness, messy production, bad lyrics, and 62 Metecritic score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 15 minutes ago, Edward Hardy said: I don't agree with Enigma outrightly calling Elton's opinion wrong though, in fact I defended Elton and said he's entitled to his own opinion. But you claiming other people to be 'in denial' is just like Enigma saying Elton's opinion is 'wrong'. Btw, that wasn't meant to 'lecture' you, can't you take it the good way? That was meant as a suggestion, you decide for yourself. So if you think there's nothing wrong with calling others delusional and be 'in denial', go ahead and do that again. ive made my decision - denial Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 105,627 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 9 hours ago, FATCAT said: ARTPOP is the bartholomew of Gaga's albums. It has a special place in our hearts, and it shares a beauty difficult to see on the surface, especially compared to her other albums. But if ARTPOP came up to me in a dark alley, I'd still be scared and worried for my safety. And just like Bartholomew, ARTPOP's story was unfinished and everyone forgot about it after a while and ignored it, including Gaga. We never got to see its full potential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennji 546 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 nah he's not wrong. that's his opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman 189 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 mr john didn't even explain one thing that was wrong with ARTPOP so basically it is just a slur with no reasoning given. if he is going to say it was a bad career move he needs to justify that position and he didn't so as far as i am concerned it is time he retired and i already justified why he should make that carreer move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,414 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 You can't expect someone from Elton's generation to like an album like ARTPOP. It's definitely more geared to a younger audience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Meister 3,000 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 19 minutes ago, Ray of Light said: Elton John, Lady Gaga, most fans, every awards committee, the critics, and the GP all agree that ARTPOP is a terrible album. We don't need these silly threads like these; they'll never take away even an ounce of its terrible reputation, inconsistency, vapidness, messy production, bad lyrics, and 62 Metecritic score. This. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted January 20, 2016 Share Posted January 20, 2016 30 minutes ago, deeman said: Is a delusional like for ARTPOP going to be used in the DSM? What's a DSM? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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