E24187 615 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Oh wow. This is embarrassing. I will say this....around 1999 to 2001, I LOVED Destiny's Child. And I'm still a fan of Kelly Rowland. What turned me off from Beyonce was her lack of artistic integrity regarding the composition of music. To me, this almost brings into question all of Lady Gaga's past song writing credits (aside from the ones that are obviously Gaga like Bad Romance, Judas, etc.). I don't patron to frauds. I will add though that Diane Warren is no pushover. Beyonce likes to stick her name in credits where they don't belong, but that song she collaborated with Diane, only has Diane listed. She doesn't play that. That being said, I feel confident in Diane that if she felt Gaga's contribution as a song writer was insufficient to receive song writer credit, Gaga would not have received said credit. Beyonce is just as a big as Gaga, if not bigger, so Gaga having star power wouldn't have impacted Diane's decision to include someone else differently than Beyonce's situation. Linda was messy for this though. You get more flies with honey than with vinegar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamChromatica 2,025 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Why does every little thing that Gaga did or did not do have to turn into a heated debate? I respect Linda Perry and her words, but now people are arguing over how Gaga is a songwriting fraud and shouldn't deserve her oscar, when clearly Diane Warren gave the song to Gaga and Gaga took part in editing and producing the song along with performing and promoting it. What's the problem? *Linda said nothing about who contributed to the melody or production of the song Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcina Dimitrescu 1,156 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, PaperIz said: I just don't understand the point of her comments. Like why would she say this and how would she even know if Gaga helped write it or not? And we know Gaga is a fan of hers....just why would she do something like this? Love shouldnt hinder knowledgment. I dont see why are you bashing Linda or calling her "pressed" or a "Liar" now, you didnt when she said something like this about Beyonce lol 1 minute ago, Monster2015 said: Lol sorry to break it to you but Adele falls in the same category you're throwing Beyonce, Katy, and Rihanna. All of them get suggested songs and change little details to make it their own. They all collaborate with songwriters and they use their voice to push the song(s) to star power. In the case of Diane and Gaga, Gaga didn't really want the attention but to just be apart of the project. If that was true then she wouldnt have accepted the nominations to awards, where is her integrity lol? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 5 minutes ago, PaperIz said: I just don't understand the point of her comments. Like why would she say this and how would she even know if Gaga helped write it or not? And we know Gaga is a fan of hers....just why would she do something like this? Because she heard the demo Basically this all started with her congratulating Diane and Gaga for being nominated and then some Monster was all GAGA WROTE IT TOO and she just said what she thought of Gaga having the writing credit in the first place. Sure, she could've just ignored the comment, but then again, she is making a point and she's not randomly insulting Gaga. The point is what people are gonna discuss (does changing one sentence qualify for getting a writing credit or not). Imo that's far better than Gaga yelling Perez was gonna kill her family on Twitter. So why is everyone acting like this is so dramatic? She literally said she wasn't gunning for anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado 2,439 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Didymus said: Because she heard the demo Basically this all started with her congratulating Diane and Gaga for being nominated and then some Monster was all GAGA WROTE IT TOO and she just said what she thought of Gaga having the writing credit in the first place. Sure, she could've just ignored the comment, but then again, she is making a point and she's not randomly insulting Gaga. The point is what people are gonna discuss her point (does changing one sentence qualify for getting a writing credit or not). Imo that's far better than Gaga yelling Perez was gonna kill her family on Twitter. So why is everyone acting like this is so dramatic? She literally said she wasn't gunning for anyone. No, it was random. She started it by saying Gaga had no contribution to the song apart from singing it, which is wrong. So stop defending her bitter ass, you are being dense and annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobster 14,604 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Monster2015 said: Btw this is going to explode in the music world. Maybe not the GP but musicians and people that are following the oscars are going to tune in on this! Ugh I can only imagine what Wendy Williams is going to say about this... She'll say something along these lines: "Lady Gaga, a.k.a. Stefani Gerimatto, is being accused of stealing writing credits, by Katy Perry"... She's always so well informed But I'm only a man and I do what I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonna Lee 384 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 wish i got on first page. monsters need to stop acting like gaga is like some bob dylan of a writer bc her credits imo are just as telling as beyoncés. i like it when u treat me mean it turns my mood from black to blue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neight Shayde 7,925 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 what a mess, really. the media will eat this up even if it's not that big of a deal imo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Just now, Desperado said: No, it was random. She started it by saying Gaga had no contribution to the song apart from singing it, which is wrong. So stop defending her bitter ass, you are being dense and annoying. Omg tho. As if we'd ever congratulate the co-writers of a Gaga song when it was nominated. We congratulate the artist it represents. For Linda, that's Diane (and she's correct since she wrote 99% of the song) so her original tweet was perfectly fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gardevoir 9,823 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 2 hours ago, samthekid said: well i believe her tbh Everything she said was known for a long time actually. (the part with lyrics). But songwriting is NOT only writing lyrics to the song. Sugar, spice, and everything nice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Tulip 12,428 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Jonna Lee said: wish i got on first page. monsters need to stop acting like gaga is like some bob dylan of a writer bc her credits imo are just as telling as beyoncés. I agree and to be honest I actually hope she doesnt win the oscar because all of these awards just make her seem more of a celebrity than she ever was. She's always been a celebrity since 2008 but now its like she's an ACTUAL celebrity with the golden globe and now most likely winning an oscar. It's just so bizarre/strange to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef 61,598 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Mobster said: She'll say something along these lines: "Lady Gaga, a.k.a. Stefani Gerimatto, is being accused of stealing writing credits, by Katy Perry"... She's always so well informed WHAT IS AIR Signature loading… 👹🖤 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaperIz 7,346 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 2 minutes ago, Didymus said: Because she heard the demo Basically this all started with her congratulating Diane and Gaga for being nominated and then some Monster was all GAGA WROTE IT TOO and she just said what she thought of Gaga having the writing credit in the first place. Sure, she could've just ignored the comment, but then again, she is making a point and she's not randomly insulting Gaga. The point is what people are gonna discuss (does changing one sentence qualify for getting a writing credit or not). Imo that's far better than Gaga yelling Perez was gonna kill her family on Twitter. So why is everyone acting like this is so dramatic? She literally said she wasn't gunning for anyone. There's no point in posting like 30 tweets about it unless she's trying to prove some point and it's gross imo. She can say she wasn't trying to attack anyone but lol you don't post all thst for funzies. 4 minutes ago, SecretWeapon said: Love shouldnt hinder knowledgment. I dont see why are you bashing Linda or calling her "pressed" or a "Liar" now, you didnt when she said something like this about Beyonce lol If that was true then she wouldnt have accepted the nominations to awards, where is her integrity lol? Well I'm not a huge fan of Beyonce so I wasn't aware, but if she was negative towards her too, then she obviously has a problem with criticizing other artists. There is no way she did this from a loving place. It just comes off rude and backhanded. Human generated art Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanC 938 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 6 hours ago, Space Cowboy said: i think she's just pressed that hands of love didnt get a nomination. http://deadline.com/2016/01/freeheld-hands-of-love-linda-perry-song-demo-oscars-1201674444/ Are people not aware she's just bitter and pressed her song wasn't nominated? Why keep responding to her on Twitter... Thanks for the link Space Cowboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonna Lee 384 Posted January 18, 2016 Share Posted January 18, 2016 Just now, Alien Tulip said: I agree and to be honest I actually hope she doesnt win the oscar because all of these awards just make her seem more of a celebrity than she ever was. She's always been a celebrity since 2008 but now its like she's an ACTUAL celebrity with the golden globe and now most likely winning an oscar. It's just so bizarre/strange to me. omg someone gets me i like it when u treat me mean it turns my mood from black to blue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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