25 vs. LG5 at the 2017 Grammys

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1 minute ago, SISTERV said:

I seriously don't get the lack of confidence in this fanbase! 

25 was released 16 months before the Grammy's will air in 2017. The attachment will have faded by then and honestly it doesn't seem like Adele is even promoting a new single. "When We Were Young" peaked at #22. 

Even Gaga's "Dope" peaked at #8 and it wasn't even a single. 

I'm fully confident Adele is not interested in releasing another single as she has said so multiple times. 

I might also add that it bothers me the level of doubt in Gaga's writing abilities. I understood people doubting her acting chops, but this is LADY GAGA we are talking about. Even her haters have admitted she is an amazing writer and musician. LG5 could possibly be better than 25. Why do people think that's impossible? 

This isn't post-The Fame Mons†er era, y'all saw how ARTPOP went and y'all forgot how cocky we were before. Lets stay humbly in our lanes, please. 

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2 minutes ago, SISTERV said:

I seriously don't get the lack of confidence in this fanbase! 

25 was released 16 months before the Grammy's will air in 2017. The attachment will have faded by then and honestly it doesn't seem like Adele is even promoting a new single. "When We Were Young" peaked at #22. 

Even Gaga's "Dope" peaked at #8 and it wasn't even a single. 

I'm fully confident Adele is not interested in releasing another single as she has said so multiple times. 

I might also add that it bothers me the level of doubt in Gaga's writing abilities. I understood people doubting her acting chops, but this is LADY GAGA we are talking about. Even her haters have admitted she is an amazing writer and musician. LG5 could possibly be better than 25. Why do people think that's impossible? 

If there is anyone that doubts gaga more than anyone's is her fans, the people that should be doing the exact opposite. Now I'm realistic and I say that gaga both deserves AND has chances of winning at the Grammys, but award season is the time when I mentalize myself and convince me that she'll loose. If she loose, great, saw it coming, if she wins...YASSSSSSS party for one

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39 minutes ago, Mobster said:

But if you're expecting it, how can it be unexpected? #Food4Thought

On a serious note: Can we listen to LG5 first? For all we know it could be Asia barking played backwards

Sounds fresh 

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tbh I don't think Adele's gonna get AOTY again. 25 didn't have the same impact as 21 and it hardly deviated from the sound Adele is known for. In addition, Blackstar is very critically-acclaimed and many people have sentimental attachments to it because of David Bowie's death (and David only has TWO Grammys, so I feel like the committee will want to give him more). I also don't wanna rule homegirl out because she could make people take extra notice of her if LG5 turns out to be her magnum opus. There are also those surprise albums like Morning Phase that could snatch the AOTY award out of nowhere.

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2 minutes ago, ROARyals said:

I've already cancelled all good for LG5 at the Grammys 2017, and if I were y'all, I'd do the same. 

seriously dissapointed in this fanbase's lack of confidence that Gaga could write something better. Wtf happened to this fanbase? 

Maybe people's expectations are so low because of the past few years...but um....ARTPOP was MEANT to be an immature record from the GET GO as she stated in 2012! Everything else since then has been a cover. She has had one original song since ARTPOP which still was Co-written. (TIHTY)

 

Do people forget that this is the woman who wrote Speechless, So Happy I Could Die, Paparazzi, Marry the Night, Bloody Mary? Those songs have insanely brilliant lyrics that Katy Perry and Rihanna could only DREAM of finding someone to hire to write for them. 

I'm sorry....but this fanbase needs to STEP ITS PUSSIEEE UP 

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1 minute ago, SISTERV said:

seriously dissapointed in this fanbase's lack of confidence that Gaga could write something better. Wtf happened to this fanbase? 

Maybe people's expectations are so low because of the past few years...but um....ARTPOP was MEANT to be an immature record from the GET GO as she stated in 2012! Everything else since then has been a cover. She has had one original song since ARTPOP which still was Co-written. (TIHTY)

 

Do people forget that this is the woman who wrote Speechless, So Happy I Could Die, Paparazzi, Marry the Night, Bloody Mary? Those songs have insanely brilliant lyrics that Katy Perry and Rihanna could only DREAM of finding someone to hire to write for them. 

I'm sorry....but this fanbase needs to STEP ITS PUSSIEEE UP 

I think this fanbase just needs a pep talk and solid evidence to justify getting our hopes up.

As for me personally, I keep the faith. I've always kept the faith.

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6 minutes ago, ROARyals said:

This isn't post-The Fame Mons†er era, y'all saw how ARTPOP went and y'all forgot how cocky we were before. Lets stay humbly in our lanes, please. 

I'm not saying we have to be cocky. But we have to get our mojo back. 

How can we expect Gaga to get her mojo back if her own fans constantly make comments just nixing her out of the equation? 

Maybe it sounds superstitious, but our energy has gotten really doubtful and negative lately. I think that has unintended affects on everything. 

We shouldn't be cocky...but we should also get off this "accepting fate" attitude and stand up for her more...even if it is slightly delusional. No one ever got anywhere saying "I'm just gonna be realistic here." 

Bowie wasn't realistic. Madonna wasn't realistic. Gaga wasn't realistic. We need to make and think what we say into becoming reality. 

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I think Adele/Bowie could snag AOTY, Gaga has chances in song/record and maybe pop vocal.

i also think she could get a collaboration one like someone said before 

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25 isn't even REAL QUALITY competition, it's just enough horribly overrated to make it snatch all the Grammy's, that sucks

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6 minutes ago, Riot Poof said:

I think this fanbase just needs a pep talk and solid evidence to justify getting our hopes up.

As for me personally, I keep the faith. I've always kept the faith.

Solid evidence?

Did we forget what happened in 2015 already? The woman didn't even put out an album, did covers for a living, and still had the biggest music magazine deeming her more relevant than any other female musician in 2015. 

I think we have had our doubts because of one shifty era (that wasn't even that bad considering the media basically drenched her in a lake of haterade for two years). But we can't let that make us doubt her. 

SHE IS THE ONLY WOMAN THAT EVER THREATENED MADONNA'S CAREER. Not even Britney in her prime did that. 

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8 minutes ago, SISTERV said:

seriously dissapointed in this fanbase's lack of confidence that Gaga could write something better. Wtf happened to this fanbase? 

Maybe people's expectations are so low because of the past few years...but um....ARTPOP was MEANT to be an immature record from the GET GO as she stated in 2012! Everything else since then has been a cover. She has had one original song since ARTPOP which still was Co-written. (TIHTY)

 

Do people forget that this is the woman who wrote Speechless, So Happy I Could Die, Paparazzi, Marry the Night, Bloody Mary? Those songs have insanely brilliant lyrics that Katy Perry and Rihanna could only DREAM of finding someone to hire to write for them. 

I'm sorry....but this fanbase needs to STEP ITS PUSSIEEE UP 

Im not ****ing saying LG5 is gonna flop harder than ARTPOP, im saying Adele will always have a better chance at success, because she's a talent, funny and safe and simple artist. She doesnt preach gay rights or has ever stripped for money, and people in general just love her a lot more for that than they do with Gaga. This is just facts. 

IF ONLY the Grammys were based on writing, but they aren't, they're based on success and production quality, something ARTPOP lacked both of. 

I don't know if you've been a fan since 2011 but I honestly think fate dragged us from our high horses and made ARTPOP flop to chill our cockiness. Same thing happened with Madonna fans and Rebel Heart-they dragged ARTPOP and now it can't outsell CTC. Stop being over confident before you make #LG5 flop too. 

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12 minutes ago, SISTERV said:

I'm not saying we have to be cocky. But we have to get our mojo back. 

How can we expect Gaga to get her mojo back if her own fans constantly make comments just nixing her out of the equation? 

Maybe it sounds superstitious, but our energy has gotten really doubtful and negative lately. I think that has unintended affects on everything. 

We shouldn't be cocky...but we should also get off this "accepting fate" attitude and stand up for her more...even if it is slightly delusional. No one ever got anywhere saying "I'm just gonna be realistic here." 

Bowie wasn't realistic. Madonna wasn't realistic. Gaga wasn't realistic. We need to make and think what we say into becoming reality. 

Hmm, let's see. We thought positively and then ARTPOP flopped. We thought negatively and then Gaga got a Gooden Globe, Oscar nom and a Granny nom. 

Yeah, pretty sure we haven't **** to do with Gaga's success. Quite the opposite infact. 

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1 minute ago, ROARyals said:

Im not ****ing saying LG5 is gonna flop harder than ARTPOP, im saying Adele will always have a better chance at success, because she's a talent, funny and safe and simple artist. She doesnt preach gay rights or has ever stripped for money, and people in general just love her a lot more for that than they do with Gaga. This is just facts. 

IF ONLY the Grammys were based on writing, but they aren't, they're based on success and production quality, something ARTPOP lacked both of. 

I don't know if you've been a fan since 2011 but I honestly think fate dragged us from our high horses and made ARTPOP flop to chill our cockiness. Same thing happened with Madonna fans and Rebel Heart-they dragged ARTPOP and now it can't outsell CTC. Stop being over confident before you make #LG5 flop too. 

I never said we should say: "Yeah haha whatever Gaga will slay Adele haha like anyone else has a chance haha Gaga is queen No one can defeat her haha"

I said we should not say that "Gaga has no chance because no matter what people will view Adele better so lets just accept that and only that."

There's a difference. For all we know Gaga could deliver a deep album, or a super new sound to pop, or her best album yet that is relatable and hits at the right moment....and actually is liked more than we expected.

We don't know either way. So I am just saying that instead of being cocky, the opposite reaction shouldn't be shrugging our arms and accepting defeat. This is Lady. ****ing. Gaga. 

You and I both don't know what's up her sleeve.

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20 minutes ago, SISTERV said:

seriously dissapointed in this fanbase's lack of confidence that Gaga could write something better. Wtf happened to this fanbase? 

Do people forget that this is the woman who wrote Speechless, So Happy I Could Die, Paparazzi, Marry the Night, Bloody Mary? Those songs have insanely brilliant lyrics that Katy Perry and Rihanna could only DREAM of finding someone to hire to write for them. 

I'm sorry....but this fanbase needs to STEP ITS PUSSIEEE UP 

It's not about Gaga's abilities. It's about Adele being on a whole other level than her (and I dont even like her but its true) + the whole David Bowie is dead thing. These 2 are just too significant, Gaga literally has no chance next to them.

It's okay though, maybe she'll get another grammy in a small category with C3C

 

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3 minutes ago, SISTERV said:

Solid evidence?

Did we forget what happened in 2015 already? The woman didn't even put out an album, did covers for a living, and still had the biggest music magazine deeming her more relevant than any other female musician in 2015. 

I think we have had our doubts because of one shifty era (that wasn't even that bad considering the media basically drenched her in a lake of haterade for two years). But we can't let that make us doubt her. 

SHE IS THE ONLY WOMAN THAT EVER THREATENED MADONNA'S CAREER. Not even Britney in her prime did that. 

The stuff you said is clearly not enough for some people. 

I think the fence-sitters will be on board if LG5's lead single performs well. I'd consider that "solid evidence" because it would show that people are still here for Gaga's pop music. For some GGD users, awards and critically-acclaimed performances don't necessarily mean LG5 will be commercially and critically successful, and they do have a point. Ultimately, the music itself is the main factor in whether or not LG5 will be successful. I have faith that Gaga will deliver, but we'll never truly know until she drops some music.