Nino 12 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Just now, Benji said: I don't agree with either of your points really. Yes, Gaga has occasionally recorded in sketchy quality for her vocals, but that is definitely not the case for the rest of what makes up a track and those sketchy vocals don't even apply to a large majority of her catalogue. Hi-res offerings come from a very large range of artists from all sorts of periods of time. I got a hi-res version of Ultraviolence, a majority of which was recorded in "one take" so "rehearsed" doesn't really come into it. There really isn't an excuse for her to not release her material in hi-res considering there's a growing market. You need to hire a technician that will bother to use all that fancy equipment. GaGa doesn't care about having a slightly bigger number on her audio equipment. She cares about her songwriting and her singing. If you want a technical masterpiece of production go listen to a Max Martin recording. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 21 minutes ago, Benji said: I don't agree with either of your points really. Yes, Gaga has occasionally recorded in sketchy quality for her vocals, but that is definitely not the case for the rest of what makes up a track and those sketchy vocals don't even apply to a large majority of her catalogue. Hi-res offerings come from a very large range of artists from all sorts of periods of time. I got a hi-res version of Ultraviolence, a majority of which was recorded in "one take" so "rehearsed" doesn't really come into it. There really isn't an excuse for her to not release her material in hi-res considering there's a growing market. Right, the "rehearsed" act statement is completely false. David Bowie just released his latest album in Hi-Res. The fact is that there is no reason why she shouldn't. Im hoping since C2C was released as Hi-Res she will consider releasing her other discography there too. And the creativity or lack thereof is irrelevant to the format of the recording. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 Just now, Nino said: You need to hire a technician that will bother to use all that fancy equipment. GaGa doesn't care about having a slightly bigger number on her audio equipment. She cares about her songwriting and her singing. If you want a technical masterpiece of production go listen to a Max Martin recording. I think she does care considering ARTPOP was supposedly all about the audio quality, I mean she wanted us all to listen to the album with good headphones. All of her material is probably acceptable to be released in Hi-res, especially if they were to be remastered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 5 minutes ago, Benji said: I think she does care considering ARTPOP was supposedly all about the audio quality If she cared her body of work wouldn't have been mastered in 5 minutes by an untrained monkey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born Brave 2,072 Posted January 12, 2016 Author Share Posted January 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Benji said: I think she does care considering ARTPOP was supposedly all about the audio quality, I mean she wanted us all to listen to the album with good headphones. All of her material is probably acceptable to be released in Hi-res, especially if they were to be remastered. exactly. Plus her and Tony just pushed Hi-Res with Sony and Cheek 2 Cheek. Sometimes I think ignorance spells a negative opinion prematurely and if I'm not mistaken it could be happening a little by those opposed to it. I currently own over 100+ Hi-Res tracks from a multitude of various artists and there's no reason, other than laziness on the behalf of Interscope that we don't have Hi-Res popga. Literally it has nothing to do with what she recorded it with, yet with how the music is formatted before its distributed to the consumer. For expanse the best Hi-Res material I own is by Fleeteood Mac and Michael Jackson, when they recorded Rumors and Thriller they wouldn't have had this fancy technology that some on here are suggesting is required. Like I said, ignorance to the subject. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 3 minutes ago, Justinn said: Right, the "rehearsed" act statement is completely false. David Bowie just released his latest album in Hi-Res. The fact is that there is no reason why she shouldn't. Im hoping since C2C was released as Hi-Res she will consider releasing her other discography there too. And the creativity or lack thereof is irrelevant to the format of the recording. Yeah I don't know where that came from. I mean Lana's vocals are so rough on Ultraviolence that you can literally hear them crackle in hi-res but the atmosphere on that record suits it perfectly! I don't think you've ever truly listened to an album until you've heard it in hi-res I hope we'll get LG5 in hi-res and then hopefully her past catalogue will become available in time, like I said, there isn't really an excuse for it not to be, especially The Fame, The Fame Monster and ARTPOP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 2 minutes ago, Nino said: If she cared her body of work wouldn't have been mastered in 5 minutes by an untrained monkey I literally have no idea why ARTPOP was mastered so poorly, it does against everything she said prior to it's release but it could easily be remastered and I'm sure it will be eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nino 12 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 54 minutes ago, Justinn said: exactly. Plus her and Tony just pushed Hi-Res with Sony and Cheek 2 Cheek. Sometimes I think ignorance spells a negative opinion prematurely and if I'm not mistaken it could be happening a little by those opposed to it. I currently own over 100+ Hi-Res tracks from a multitude of various artists and there's no reason, other than laziness on the behalf of Interscope that we don't have Hi-Res popga. Literally it has nothing to do with what she recorded it with, yet with how the music is formatted before its distributed to the consumer. For expanse the best Hi-Res material I own is by Fleeteood Mac and Michael Jackson, when they recorded Rumors and Thriller they wouldn't have had this fancy technology that some on here are suggesting is required. Like I said, ignorance to the subject. The quality of a recording is directly decided by the equipment you use to record it Do you even know the first thing about hifi recording other than that you like it? You CANNOT get perfect quality audio out of cheap recording setups. If it was as simple as having it mastered brilliantly record studios wouldn't exist. Everybody would record at home on their computers in pajamas. Thriller had one of the most bloated recording budgets in all history and in the early 80s hifi recording processes were even more common. Good audio isn't a modern revelation, consumers used to DEMAND it unlike today. Stereo sound was born out of customer demand for more accurate recordings. Modern technology as you think of it has jack to do with music. The iPad or smart tampon or whatever the heck you define fancy tech as didn't represent a massive leap forward in microphone technology or the recording process. I'm not uninformed I'm just being realistic about how little LG cares about satisfying a group of elitist gearheads. If you took 30 seconds to read my posts from a viewpoint that isn't an audiophilliac circle-jerk you'd see how ignroant you're being to how much effort and planning and money goes into high fidelity recordings. Beyond the shortcomings of GaGa's artistic process and how cumbersome managing a great audio recording is, we can also talk about how it's been proven in countless studies that most audiophile-catered formats are a bunch of arcane nonsense that have 0 impact on the quality of the listening experience. 320 kb/s mp3 is exactly enough for 100% of consumers. There's even evidence that suggests 192 kb/s mp3 is the most people need for audio playback. (not that I believe it) I'm a member of head-fi and also a music enthusiast with a specific interest in audio technology, I'm not a 12 year old gay kid listening to Lady GaGa on apple earbuds who's unaware of what audio should be. If you want to spend $10k on a fancy DAC to feel like you're having a special audio experience then go ahead. I'd even be inclined to do the same, but don't police the people airing our their souls for our amusement for not painting their masterpiece on the finest canvas the world has ever seen. Becuase at the end of the day that's all a media format is, it's the canvas on which you create your masterpiece. It doesn't define the value of the piece itself. The Mona Lisa is the Mona Lisa in a photograph displayed on a cell phone just as much as it is in person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmxoxo 943 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 3 hours ago, Justinn said: While you may not think it's important (excuse your Apple earpods for just a second) the Grammy voting commission takes mastering and overall recording quality into huge consideration when picking a winner. That's why Beck won AOTY last year and why Daft Punk did the year before. Please Bobby, Please Gaga, Please RedOne, PLEASE INTERSCOPE. Don't assume that all Lady Gaga fans are okay with half-assed recording and mastery. Even PRISM sounded better than ARTPOP from a mastery standpoint, and whataya know, it's in the HDTracks.com catalog! **fumes** I TOTALLY, TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. Edit: waaait i know youu, you are from radio ARTPOP hehe, hoe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 55 minutes ago, Benji said: I literally have no idea why ARTPOP was mastered so poorly, it does against everything she said prior to it's release but it could easily be remastered and I'm sure it will be eventually. High quality audio is trendy as evidenced by the ignorant bandwagoning shown in this thread. I mean look at all the people hopping on vinyl becuase it "sounds better" People like to feel like they're getting a special unique experience from the music they consume. It's only going to become a bigger trend in the coming years as people struggle with the shift in the record industry towards availibility of all music for free. Buying music and owning music doesn't feel special so people are looking desperately to restore that feeling of music having value. Gaga just wanted to seem trendy and appeal to the special snowflakes of the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 1 minute ago, Nino said: High quality audio is trendy as evidenced by the ignorant bandwagoning shown in this thread. I mean look at all the people hopping on vinyl becuase it "sounds better" People like to feel like they're getting a special unique experience from the music they consume. It's only going to become a bigger trend in the coming years as people struggle with the shift in the record industry towards availibility of all music for free. Buying music and owning music doesn't feel special so people are looking desperately to restore that feeling of music having value. Gaga just wanted to seem trendy and appeal to the special snowflakes of the world. I think you're pretty off the mark here. I don't really see any "bandwagoning" in this thread, I mean who doesn't want music by their favourite artist in better quality? Also, don't get confused by vinyl talk. People who prefer the sound of vinyl like it for it's "warmth" ... it may not technically sound "better" but it adds to someone's listening experience. I personally buy all of my favourite music because owning it does have value to me. I love getting a new album and being able to flip through a booklet or a set of pictures when I'm listening to an album. I also like to display my favourite music. These two reasons are some of the biggest reasons I buy vinyl. If taking pride in my music collection makes me a "special snowflake" then I'm very happy to be one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 First 4 Madonna's albums from the 80s are on HDTracks (192kHz/24bit) and they sound AMAZING. they were recorded 30 years ago... ¿Qué currículum tiene ésta tarántula? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 10 minutes ago, Benji said: I think you're pretty off the mark here. I don't really see any "bandwagoning" in this thread, I mean who doesn't want music by their favourite artist in better quality? Also, don't get confused by vinyl talk. People who prefer the sound of vinyl like it for it's "warmth" ... it may not technically sound "better" but it adds to someone's listening experience. I personally buy all of my favourite music because owning it does have value to me. I love getting a new album and being able to flip through a booklet or a set of pictures when I'm listening to an album. I also like to display my favourite music. These two reasons are some of the biggest reasons I buy vinyl. If taking pride in my music collection makes me a "special snowflake" then I'm very happy to be one. Mess I didn't know you were a vinyl person. The vast majority of vinyl consumers actually have been convinced that it's a objectively better higher fidelity sound coming from their Crosley mess with built in amp/speakers then from their $700 phone. People like you who know their **** are in the minority. As for my assessment of the current music landscape being off the mark I know it isn't. Any industry analyst could tell you I'm not. The move to all music being completely free IS causing a backlash. I'm not saying the trendiness of high quality music or wanting a special feeling music collection is a bad thing though. I buy Japanese CDs when possible becuase I like knowing I'm getting a better product and becuase I like displaying my music collection also. You completely misread my post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted January 12, 2016 Share Posted January 12, 2016 As for bandwagoning what else would you call it when somebody hops on a trendy movement with an obvious lack of understanding of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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