KyliesChild 16,907 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 11 hours ago, DiscoHeaven23 said: SINGING DANCING ACTING FASHION SONGWRITING PERFORMANCE ART SHES GOT THE WHOLE PACKAGE. NO ONE CAN COMPARE. NO ONE. Fashion is not a talent (unless you're speaking about modeling and designing, etc, which Gaga does not do). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyliesChild 16,907 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 On December 20, 2015 at 3:21 AM, Mast said: What? Lmfao. You do realize that all the artists I've mentioned, that users here are calling "indie", are all signed to labels, right? Their talent has been picked up by big labels, they just don't break into mainstream simply because we tend to push their genres aside. You mean to tell me that these songs are uninspired music?: You used Lianne La Havas as an example. She's amaaaaazing omg. I constantly listen to Blood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PabloDaBlowfish 428 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 She's a mainstream artist. Of course she's not getting the full control. I wish her Dead Petz is upon us. That's why she's not that 'artsy' as fka twix and the other artsy/deep/indie/true artist yall are posting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted December 21, 2015 Author Share Posted December 21, 2015 12 hours ago, Didymus said: Where is that coming from though? It sounds to me like you just never really heard a Beyoncé album/performance properly and I'm completely genuine saying that. Beyoncé has more control over her voice than anyone in the mainstream industry. And versatility is basically her middle name.. the fact that you say she always sings in the same style just convinces me that you don't know what you're talking about and I'm not saying that in a rude way, but you still are when you're denying the obvious. Both Gaga and Beyoncé are versatile singers but imo Beyoncé wins. What range have we really seen from Gaga? Could she sing an endearing love song convincingly in a romantic style? I think not (enough proof of that). Could she sing an urban attitude track convincingly? I think not (enough proof of that). Could she sing a track of blind rage convincingly without doing her typical grows? I think not. Sure, the girl can sing in many genres, but does that really mean her voice itself is (as) versatile (as other singers like Beyoncé)? That doesn't mean Gaga's not a good singer though. But when you wanna compare her to other artists this is what you get, you bump into what Gaga can't/won't do that others can/do. In theory there's nothing wrong with that at all (I'm not a Gaga fan because she's supposedly better than everyone else - I can't help but laugh in the face of everyone that is), so I wish people would stop comparing for the very simple reason that if you compare honestly, you find out that Gaga really isn't that unique, and that conclusion makes you look like a hater when really, it shouldn't at all downplay Gaga's achievements. People can't handle that very basic realization because they are determined to put Gaga on some unnecessary pedestal. That, to me, is not just ugly, it also creates a reality tunnel that inspires people like you to trash other artists for no goddamn reason. But I just don't agree. I am not a fan of Beyonce but I have watched some of her performances and listen to some of her albums, and to me she sounds very samey. The only time she seems to be a bit different is when she is dong urban tracks, but other than that she she has the same overall sound. Gaga sings pop, rock, jazz, r&b, and even some opera very well and very convincingly (and her voice sounds very different all the time). In songs like Sexxx Dreams, she sounds very romantic, she hasn't really done many urban tracks but her R&B vocals sounded very good in Jewels & Drugs, and rage songs are usually associated with growls, specifically in rock music (why does she have to sing without growls anyways?). We just have to agree to disagree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,123 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Out of the artists who are known the world over, I can't think of one who is more talented, and skilled in so many areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 3 minutes ago, Enigma said: But I just don't agree. I am not a fan of Beyonce but I have watched some of her performances and listen to some of her albums, and to me she sounds very samey. The only time she seems to be a bit different is when she is dong urban tracks, but other than that she she has the same overall sound. Straight up lie. 4 minutes ago, Enigma said: Gaga sings pop, rock, jazz, r&b, and even some opera very well and very convincingly (and her voice sounds very different all the time). But anyway, lemme use that. Here's some of Bey's versatility: A truthful listen of these can enlighten any person genuinely ignorant about Beyoncé's versatility. Not gonna comment about Gaga sounding "romantic" on Sexxx Dreams (whut) and Gaga showing "R&B vocals" on J&D (whut 2x) because I guess that's up to taste but please, Beyoncé's versatility is NOT up to opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyboi12 2,125 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Some of you guys need to sit down! Miss Badu is such a 90ds artist. I think Gaga is up there, but not the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 1 hour ago, Enigma said: But I just don't agree. I am not a fan of Beyonce but I have watched some of her performances and listen to some of her albums, and to me she sounds very samey. The only time she seems to be a bit different is when she is dong urban tracks, but other than that she she has the same overall sound. Gaga sings pop, rock, jazz, r&b, and even some opera very well and very convincingly (and her voice sounds very different all the time). In songs like Sexxx Dreams, she sounds very romantic, she hasn't really done many urban tracks but her R&B vocals sounded very good in Jewels & Drugs, and rage songs are usually associated with growls, specifically in rock music (why does she have to sing without growls anyways?). We just have to agree to disagree. When did she ever sing opera? Also, I disagree. What you're hearing in her voice is a mood change, not a tone change. Gaga has a very distinct tone to her voice, and the only time I've heard her change it is when she's singing jazz. She opens her throat more and the notes come out a lot smoother. Also, did you even watch the videos of Beyonce I posted? Gaga wishes she could ever scat like that. Gaga wishes she could belt like that. gaga wishes she could easily harmonize with someone like that. Beyonce is very adept with her voice and can carry a lot of melismas and runs that Gaga wouldn't be able to do. Like I've said before, it's really easy to be okay at a lot of things (Gaga), but a lot harder to excel at fewer things (Beyonce). More things are not always better. Less is more comes to mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 53 minutes ago, Boyboi12 said: Some of you guys need to sit down! Miss Badu is such a 90ds artist. I think Gaga is up there, but not the best. Miss Badu is still making music boo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 17 hours ago, DiscoHeaven23 said: SINGING DANCING ACTING FASHION SONGWRITING PERFORMANCE ART SHES GOT THE WHOLE PACKAGE. NO ONE CAN COMPARE. NO ONE. Fashion is not a talent. Her acting is debatable, and don't bring the Golden Globes as a receipt. She was guaranteed a nomination before the show even aired. AHS always gets a nomination with every season, and Gaga was the only female lead besides Kathy Bates, but Bates didn't receive enough airtime in order to be nominated. Not to mention, her nomination being for views is not out of the question. Her fans are always quick to say "THE VMAS RATINGS WERE AMAZING BECAUSE GAGA WAS THERE!" "GAGA GAVE THEM VIEWS!" But are quick to deny views as a factor when she gets nominated for something they want to feel validated by? Also, her songwriting is miles behind the contemporaries. Kudos to her for co-writing all her songs, but there are people out there with much more involvement and much better lyrics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 27 minutes ago, Mast said: Fashion is not a talent. Her acting is debatable, and don't bring the Golden Globes as a receipt. She was guaranteed a nomination before the show even aired. AHS always gets a nomination with every season, and Gaga was the only female lead besides Kathy Bates, but Bates didn't receive enough airtime in order to be nominated. Not to mention, her nomination being for views is not out of the question. Her fans are always quick to say "THE VMAS RATINGS WERE AMAZING BECAUSE GAGA WAS THERE!" "GAGA GAVE THEM VIEWS!" But are quick to deny views as a factor when she gets nominated for something they want to feel validated by? Also, her songwriting is miles behind the contemporaries. Kudos to her for co-writing all her songs, but there are people out there with much more involvement and much better lyrics. Then why did she receive the Songwriting Icon Award and not Katy Perry, Beyonce, Rihanna, Kesha, Taylor, Adele or any other? G0dga writes her songs on her own but is always generous with her songwriting credits Golden Globes opinion > your opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 I see you made another thread to escape this one I consider that a victory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 25,226 Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 6 hours ago, Cool Machine said: Fashion is not a talent (unless you're speaking about modeling and designing, etc, which Gaga does not do). Well it can be considered a talent because Gaga does a lot of research and is very picky about what she wears and what she doesn't, and how she wants to wear it. You have to have a keen eye for fashion to keep a consistent level of quality to your appearance. It's not easy to change looks as much as Gaga does without dropping the ball too often. That said, I'm sure Gaga gets tons of help with this, so wouldn't necessarily call it a stand-out talent for her. Besides, her fashion is relatively hit-or-miss anyway . Love it tho. Happiness will never last, darkness comes to kick your ass... ᵃˢˢ 🕺 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quark 7,098 Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 2 hours ago, Didymus said: Straight up lie. But anyway, lemme use that. Here's some of Bey's versatility: A truthful listen of these can enlighten any person genuinely ignorant about Beyoncé's versatility. Not gonna comment about Gaga sounding "romantic" on Sexxx Dreams (whut) and Gaga showing "R&B vocals" on J&D (whut 2x) because I guess that's up to taste but please, Beyoncé's versatility is NOT up to opinion. Other than the first video, the rest sound very similar, with the same style. She just changes her tempo but nothing else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alcina Dimitrescu 1,156 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 5 minutes ago, Enigma said: Other than the first video, the rest sound very similar, with the same style. She just changes her tempo but nothing else. wait, we're talking about Pokerface/Bad Romance/Judas/Venus now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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