Rita Ora Sues Roc Nation

[Mobster 14,604]

1 minute ago, stef said:

she never had the opportunity

She had a shot with I Will Never Let You Down and it was just about to take off stateside when Calvin got bitter af and banned her from releasing anymore of her work with his productions

Well, maybe if she had had a bit of input on the song, she would have been allowed to perform it 

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

19 minutes ago, Nemo said:

Roc Nation is not Tidal.

Jay Z is both Roc Nation and Tidal. It makes sense considering what been going on with Rihanna,  Kylie Minogue and others at Roc Nation. 

[Noah 26,975]

10 minutes ago, Runway said:

Well she never happened anywhere outside the UK so what did she expect

1 Top 10 hit in the US, 1 Top 5 Hit in Germany (other Songs charting in the Top 30), 4 Top 10 Hits in Australia. I wanna not happen outside of the UK too then.

[Noah 26,975]

1 minute ago, just4fun said:

Jay Z is both Roc Nation and Tidal. It makes sense considering what been going on with Rihanna,  Kylie Minogue and others at Roc Nation. 

I am glad Kylie left tbh. Since 2014, Roc Nation wasn't about promoting their Artists at all.

[Hecturr 1,926]

27 minutes ago, stef said:

she never had the opportunity

She had a shot with I Will Never Let You Down and it was just about to take off stateside when Calvin got bitter af and banned her from releasing anymore of her work with his productions

Lmao @ you saying calvin got bitter. Things we have no idea about may have happened. so saying he got bitter is like saying that girl is a slut because I said so.

[Tove Lo 2,481]

35 minutes ago, Runway said:

Well she never happened anywhere outside the UK so what did she expect

*cough*

 

But assuming she was having trouble with the label and stuff back then, she couldn't have done much even with the Black Widow promo.

[Stef 61,598]

19 minutes ago, Hecturr said:

Lmao @ you saying calvin got bitter. Things we have no idea about may have happened. so saying he got bitter is like saying that girl is a slut because I said so.

there are less shitty ways to deal with things that may have happened. Attempting to sabotage another person's chances of a major progression in her career is cuntish, whatever way you look at it. I can understand not allowing her to release any more songs under his production, but to attempt to take back a song that had already been released and stop her from performing it?  

[Hecturr 1,926]

9 minutes ago, stef said:

there are less shitty ways to deal with things that may have happened. Attempting to sabotage another person's chances of a major progression in her career is cuntish, whatever way you look at it. I can understand not allowing her to release any more songs under his production, but to attempt to take back a song that had already been released and stop her from performing it?  

 "You'll only know 1 side of the story RE Teen choice awards because I choose not to talk to the papers about every aspect of my personal life. But just know I had a damn good reason."

I may be biased because I like calvin more than I like rita, but I believe he had a reason and he didnt just do it cus he felt like destroying her future all of a sudden.

[StrawberryBlond 14,900]

On the one hand, I understand why she's doing this...but on the other, I think she's blaming her label too much.

From looking at the stats, it certainly appears as if Roc Nation have done next to nothing to promote her. I read the whole story about her music career right from the beginning - she had been dropped from 2 labels in her teens before she got with them. She made an album under them, but for unknown reasons, it never got released and she was dispatched to doing teeny gigs at county fairs and the like. Yeah, Roc wanted us to believe that they were simply nurturing her in the 4 years it took to release her debut from the moment she got signed, but this was the reality. So, she finally hits the big time (in the UK at least) and they reward her by not promoting her in the US, despite proving that she can make bank. Then Calvin banned her from performing at the Teen Choice Awards, so the lead single from her new album, the one that was supposed to launch her in the States, never got promo appearances for its lead single. Then his ban extended to all usages of her songs, so she had to start over from scratch. And Roc has done nothing to help her in that time, even though she had a feature from Chris Brown on a single and which should have been an obvious reason for US promo. She's been kept almost exclusively a UK phenomenon, even though Roc was supposed to make her global.

But then again...Rita just simply doesn't have star quality. She has a better singing voice than I initially gave her credit for, I'll give her that, but she can't write songs, she can't play instruments, I don't think she dances. Her critiques on The Voice and X Factor were good and she was a good judge of talent but in interviews, she's as thick as a plank. Seriously, on The Voice, she asked Tom Jones if he wore a "quilt" because he was Welsh (she got confused with Scottish kilts) and asked if he had the internet in his 50's childhood and on Graham Norton, she thought an ex being called a "bad seed" was a sexual reference and still couldn't understand what the phrase meant when it was explained. So, she has extremely limited talent and isn't the sharpest tool in the shed either. It all makes for a lack of star quality. And when that's the case, no promo works, really. The only reason she got all those #1's in the UK back when she started out was because they were all on pre-order (seriously, every #1 she ever got) and it's only now that the pre-ordering is no longer working out. Her album has sold little over 300k here and it's only because it was put down in price umpteen times. And 2012 album sales were better - it wouldn't even reach gold certification these days. Her "hits" have left no impact. I've heard many a person say: "You couldn't get me to name a Rita Ora single if you held me at gunpoint." Just because people know her name doesn't mean she's popular - they use her name only to make fun of how much of a flop she is. But the lack of sales aren't through lack of promo. Not only has she had lots of promo here, but she was the face of big brands, dated Calvin for a while, got a part in 50 Shades, even got judging roles on The Voice and X Factor, she even performed at the Oscars! She's doing it all and is young and is aimed at the youth market with relevant music, so...why isn't it working? Because she just doesn't have "it." No matter how Roc promote her, I doubt they could make her happen, especially after all this time. She simply won't be taken seriously when her struggles to make it in the business are brought to everyone's attention (and how she seems like a Rihanna clone). So, she's essentially suing her label because she doesn't have what it takes to be a huge star. That's her problem, not the label's. Maybe if she knuckled down and tried to write her own music, she'd have something released to promote by now.

[sipthistea 21,099]

Poor Rihanna 

[DiscoHeaven23 35,007]

59 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

On the one hand, I understand why she's doing this...but on the other, I think she's blaming her label too much.

From looking at the stats, it certainly appears as if Roc Nation have done next to nothing to promote her. I read the whole story about her music career right from the beginning - she had been dropped from 2 labels in her teens before she got with them. She made an album under them, but for unknown reasons, it never got released and she was dispatched to doing teeny gigs at county fairs and the like. Yeah, Roc wanted us to believe that they were simply nurturing her in the 4 years it took to release her debut from the moment she got signed, but this was the reality. So, she finally hits the big time (in the UK at least) and they reward her by not promoting her in the US, despite proving that she can make bank. Then Calvin banned her from performing at the Teen Choice Awards, so the lead single from her new album, the one that was supposed to launch her in the States, never got promo appearances for its lead single. Then his ban extended to all usages of her songs, so she had to start over from scratch. And Roc has done nothing to help her in that time, even though she had a feature from Chris Brown on a single and which should have been an obvious reason for US promo. She's been kept almost exclusively a UK phenomenon, even though Roc was supposed to make her global.

But then again...Rita just simply doesn't have star quality. She has a better singing voice than I initially gave her credit for, I'll give her that, but she can't write songs, she can't play instruments, I don't think she dances. Her critiques on The Voice and X Factor were good and she was a good judge of talent but in interviews, she's as thick as a plank. Seriously, on The Voice, she asked Tom Jones if he wore a "quilt" because he was Welsh (she got confused with Scottish kilts) and asked if he had the internet in his 50's childhood and on Graham Norton, she thought an ex being called a "bad seed" was a sexual reference and still couldn't understand what the phrase meant when it was explained. So, she has extremely limited talent and isn't the sharpest tool in the shed either. It all makes for a lack of star quality. And when that's the case, no promo works, really. The only reason she got all those #1's in the UK back when she started out was because they were all on pre-order (seriously, every #1 she ever got) and it's only now that the pre-ordering is no longer working out. Her album has sold little over 300k here and it's only because it was put down in price umpteen times. And 2012 album sales were better - it wouldn't even reach gold certification these days. Her "hits" have left no impact. I've heard many a person say: "You couldn't get me to name a Rita Ora single if you held me at gunpoint." Just because people know her name doesn't mean she's popular - they use her name only to make fun of how much of a flop she is. But the lack of sales aren't through lack of promo. Not only has she had lots of promo here, but she was the face of big brands, dated Calvin for a while, got a part in 50 Shades, even got judging roles on The Voice and X Factor, she even performed at the Oscars! She's doing it all and is young and is aimed at the youth market with relevant music, so...why isn't it working? Because she just doesn't have "it." No matter how Roc promote her, I doubt they could make her happen, especially after all this time. She simply won't be taken seriously when her struggles to make it in the business are brought to everyone's attention (and how she seems like a Rihanna clone). So, she's essentially suing her label because she doesn't have what it takes to be a huge star. That's her problem, not the label's. Maybe if she knuckled down and tried to write her own music, she'd have something released to promote by now.

I always love how much thought u put into ur comments. 

[SlayedForTheGod 665]

1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

On the one hand, I understand why she's doing this...but on the other, I think she's blaming her label too much.

From looking at the stats, it certainly appears as if Roc Nation have done next to nothing to promote her. I read the whole story about her music career right from the beginning - she had been dropped from 2 labels in her teens before she got with them. She made an album under them, but for unknown reasons, it never got released and she was dispatched to doing teeny gigs at county fairs and the like. Yeah, Roc wanted us to believe that they were simply nurturing her in the 4 years it took to release her debut from the moment she got signed, but this was the reality. So, she finally hits the big time (in the UK at least) and they reward her by not promoting her in the US, despite proving that she can make bank. Then Calvin banned her from performing at the Teen Choice Awards, so the lead single from her new album, the one that was supposed to launch her in the States, never got promo appearances for its lead single. Then his ban extended to all usages of her songs, so she had to start over from scratch. And Roc has done nothing to help her in that time, even though she had a feature from Chris Brown on a single and which should have been an obvious reason for US promo. She's been kept almost exclusively a UK phenomenon, even though Roc was supposed to make her global.

But then again...Rita just simply doesn't have star quality. She has a better singing voice than I initially gave her credit for, I'll give her that, but she can't write songs, she can't play instruments, I don't think she dances. Her critiques on The Voice and X Factor were good and she was a good judge of talent but in interviews, she's as thick as a plank. Seriously, on The Voice, she asked Tom Jones if he wore a "quilt" because he was Welsh (she got confused with Scottish kilts) and asked if he had the internet in his 50's childhood and on Graham Norton, she thought an ex being called a "bad seed" was a sexual reference and still couldn't understand what the phrase meant when it was explained. So, she has extremely limited talent and isn't the sharpest tool in the shed either. It all makes for a lack of star quality. And when that's the case, no promo works, really. The only reason she got all those #1's in the UK back when she started out was because they were all on pre-order (seriously, every #1 she ever got) and it's only now that the pre-ordering is no longer working out. Her album has sold little over 300k here and it's only because it was put down in price umpteen times. And 2012 album sales were better - it wouldn't even reach gold certification these days. Her "hits" have left no impact. I've heard many a person say: "You couldn't get me to name a Rita Ora single if you held me at gunpoint." Just because people know her name doesn't mean she's popular - they use her name only to make fun of how much of a flop she is. But the lack of sales aren't through lack of promo. Not only has she had lots of promo here, but she was the face of big brands, dated Calvin for a while, got a part in 50 Shades, even got judging roles on The Voice and X Factor, she even performed at the Oscars! She's doing it all and is young and is aimed at the youth market with relevant music, so...why isn't it working? Because she just doesn't have "it." No matter how Roc promote her, I doubt they could make her happen, especially after all this time. She simply won't be taken seriously when her struggles to make it in the business are brought to everyone's attention (and how she seems like a Rihanna clone). So, she's essentially suing her label because she doesn't have what it takes to be a huge star. That's her problem, not the label's. Maybe if she knuckled down and tried to write her own music, she'd have something released to promote by now.

I dont agree with this at all. there are plenty of artists out there that dont write their own music and have just as much of the "it factor" that rita has that are successful. the thing is they are being backed by their label and rita is not. whether you you think so or not labels help songs get radio play and commercial deals. radio is still huge in making or breaking a song. so when your label is not sending your tracks to radio youre kinda left screwed. 

[KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451]

But she has no relevancy and the general public doesn't care about her (with all my respect for her as an artist), What did she expect? Even Nicole Scherzinger left Epic Records because they made her flop and there's no lawsuit... The only female artist that Roc Nation cares about is Rihanna, Shakira flopped too.

[KURUSHITOVSKA 20,451]

1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

On the one hand, I understand why she's doing this...but on the other, I think she's blaming her label too much.

From looking at the stats, it certainly appears as if Roc Nation have done next to nothing to promote her. I read the whole story about her music career right from the beginning - she had been dropped from 2 labels in her teens before she got with them. She made an album under them, but for unknown reasons, it never got released and she was dispatched to doing teeny gigs at county fairs and the like. Yeah, Roc wanted us to believe that they were simply nurturing her in the 4 years it took to release her debut from the moment she got signed, but this was the reality. So, she finally hits the big time (in the UK at least) and they reward her by not promoting her in the US, despite proving that she can make bank. Then Calvin banned her from performing at the Teen Choice Awards, so the lead single from her new album, the one that was supposed to launch her in the States, never got promo appearances for its lead single. Then his ban extended to all usages of her songs, so she had to start over from scratch. And Roc has done nothing to help her in that time, even though she had a feature from Chris Brown on a single and which should have been an obvious reason for US promo. She's been kept almost exclusively a UK phenomenon, even though Roc was supposed to make her global.

But then again...Rita just simply doesn't have star quality. She has a better singing voice than I initially gave her credit for, I'll give her that, but she can't write songs, she can't play instruments, I don't think she dances. Her critiques on The Voice and X Factor were good and she was a good judge of talent but in interviews, she's as thick as a plank. Seriously, on The Voice, she asked Tom Jones if he wore a "quilt" because he was Welsh (she got confused with Scottish kilts) and asked if he had the internet in his 50's childhood and on Graham Norton, she thought an ex being called a "bad seed" was a sexual reference and still couldn't understand what the phrase meant when it was explained. So, she has extremely limited talent and isn't the sharpest tool in the shed either. It all makes for a lack of star quality. And when that's the case, no promo works, really. The only reason she got all those #1's in the UK back when she started out was because they were all on pre-order (seriously, every #1 she ever got) and it's only now that the pre-ordering is no longer working out. Her album has sold little over 300k here and it's only because it was put down in price umpteen times. And 2012 album sales were better - it wouldn't even reach gold certification these days. Her "hits" have left no impact. I've heard many a person say: "You couldn't get me to name a Rita Ora single if you held me at gunpoint." Just because people know her name doesn't mean she's popular - they use her name only to make fun of how much of a flop she is. But the lack of sales aren't through lack of promo. Not only has she had lots of promo here, but she was the face of big brands, dated Calvin for a while, got a part in 50 Shades, even got judging roles on The Voice and X Factor, she even performed at the Oscars! She's doing it all and is young and is aimed at the youth market with relevant music, so...why isn't it working? Because she just doesn't have "it." No matter how Roc promote her, I doubt they could make her happen, especially after all this time. She simply won't be taken seriously when her struggles to make it in the business are brought to everyone's attention (and how she seems like a Rihanna clone). So, she's essentially suing her label because she doesn't have what it takes to be a huge star. That's her problem, not the label's. Maybe if she knuckled down and tried to write her own music, she'd have something released to promote by now.

I love you 

[TRILL MONSTER 1,113]

Not too be a bitch but .....her pop career is non existent .......has she had a world wide hit? I see her more as a sociallite/model than a singer 

 

 

wasnt there an article some where that criticized rita for "living a pop stars life with out actally doing anything significant in music"  

 

she should just stick too appearing in literally ever red carpet that roll out