Gaga tweets about California mass shooting

[Slayer 9,227]

17 minutes ago, HMLSwine said:

But that's what some people are complaining about ... tweeting for the sake of it, while enjoying your ice cream.... Anyway, I personally don't care about her tweet, but I don't like this unspoken rule of having to tweet about everything that is happening in the world

That's absolutely ridiculous. So she can't have an opinion unless she's been shot?

God, you people can't make up your minds. She tweets, she doesn't tweet, either way there's always an enormous thread with all you WHINERS.

[AlexanderLevi2 5,849]

1 minute ago, Didymus said:

Of course, she obviously doesn't mean any harm, god bless her

I wasn't gunning for her, I'm just tired of these celebrities unintentionally (but seriously, some of them should know better, especially when they tweet **** like this) contribute to the opposite of what they're trying to achieve. I mean, to remove the focus off of Gaga, it reminds me of when Selena Gomez started ranting about Palestine without knowing what the **** she was saying Celebrities just have to be aware of the fact that even though their opinion isn't more important than others (when it's related to politics anyway), they have massive influence.

I mean, imagine what a simple tweet of Gaga: "Don't forget about Beirut" could've done for the world. Loads. Am I blaming her for that? No. But not a single major celebrity did anything of the sort and that pisses me off because they were all acting high and mighty and noble about supporting Paris, apparently as a sign of empathy, clearly uninterested in seeing the bigger picture or using their influence for good. That's when I raise my eyebrows and that's when I b---h to an understandably annoying agree about tweets like this, although it's really the combination of the tweet and her avatar that bugged me here, which is probably something people don't completely get.

I don't think a lot of people do things to seem "high and mighty." Sure, some people do but I think it's just innocent ignorance. Which is an important time for someone like you to come in and educate. But I think getting annoyed with others does not spread the message well. And it comes off as you know everything (which I'm sure you don't think) but the way you are phrasing and communicating is coming off snobby. I'm not doing this to attack you, I'm just letting you know how it comes off.

 

People need to be given the benefit of the doubt. I really don't think people changed to the French flag because they wanted to show off to others, but more out of wanting to change or help others.

[Mobster 14,604]

Just now, etron said:

That's absolutely ridiculous. So she can't have an opinion unless she's been shot?

God, you people can't make up your minds. She tweets, she doesn't tweet, either way there's always an enormous thread with all you WHINERS.

I misread your post, sorry... I'll delete.... thought you were talking about Regina George eating cake

[Cupid Boy 410]

she doesn't have a good memories from muslim community , you know what i mean ... so don't you dare to blame her on the fact that she didn't tweet about the palestine or beirut ... some  celebrites tweeted somethin' about the gaza war such as rihanna and after afew jewesh objections they delete their tweet and pretend nothing happend for the safety of their  career so i'm totally fine about  Gaga's silence for these conflicts

[Didymus 34,380]

11 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said:

I don't think a lot of people do things to seem "high and mighty." Sure, some people do but I think it's just innocent ignorance. Which is an important time for someone like you to come in and educate. But I think getting annoyed with others does not spread the message well. And it comes off as you know everything (which I'm sure you don't think) but the way you are phrasing and communicating is coming off snobby. I'm not doing this to attack you, I'm just letting you know how it comes off.

People need to be given the benefit of the doubt. I really don't think people changed to the French flag because they wanted to show off to others, but more out of wanting to change or help others.

I know, I'm an asshole, I'm aware of that lmfao

It's pretty ironic that I'm demanding that Gaga phrases herself better when I'm notoriously misinterpreted (with my own influence, of course, I don't pay attention at all to how I write things) on this forum Probably a case of psychological projection then.

And god no, I really don't wanna give off the impression that I know it all, I'm glad you don't think that's how I feel about myself. I acknowledge that I'm being snobby though. I genuinely think I'm making great points but if I had posted them differently, obviously things would've been different in this thread

And yes, I completely agree with your last part. But that still doesn't change the fact that it's problematic. And I appreciate you saying that there's a value in people like me being able to address that, 'cause that's really all I wanna do. On Facebook I just pulled the very simple countermove of changing my avatar to Lebanon's flag instead of the French one. That proved more successful than what I did here

So yeah, thanks for reminding me what I do it for.

I guess this is my ironic, self-insulting commentary: this really is the danger of social media. You're able to post something so quickly without any sense of reflection that there's a high risk of being misunderstood, definitely based on what you wrote so there's no excuse. I should've known better.

Everyone should know better, me included.

[venusian 4,686]

1 hour ago, HMLSwine said:

But then again, no one was complaining when she didn't tweet about people dying in Syria this entire year...

mm the tea is hot

[uo111 5,265]

58 minutes ago, Didymus said:

That's a typical argument that makes no sense. International media DID report about Beirut and Pakistan and Nigeria and they report frequently about all related issues, it's the people who don't care, including celebrities who make it even worse by promoting this selectivity to their own followers, seemingly under the guise of solidarity and "harmony".

I live in Belgium, a country next to France, and even I could see through the despicable international reaction to Paris, which politicians abused to promote military attacks (that initiated the Paris terror in the first place) even more. It didn't take more than a sincere will to be informed to be able to do the same.

I'm not demanding everyone gets informed, and I didn't make a statement about celebrities tweeting about it when it happened, but I don't need someone like Lady Gaga (and I'm not just targeting her) to hold up an ideal of using your influence to promote harmony and peace, specifically related to supposedly global (that's what cracks me up in this tweet) political issues when she clearly doesn't embody it.

It's so silly to me that people are inventing false motivations behind terror attacks. A terror organization would not stop committing terror attacks if we just left them alone. Moving past that point.

I see you talking about terror attacks in Beirut, but there were terror attacks elsewhere too. And lest we all forget about North Korea. I mean really North Koreans are worse off than Syrians, but the world doesn't give a ****. I mean, http://www.christianpost.com/news/ghost-north-korean-ships-dozens-dead-bodies-wash-ashore-in-japan-151463/
You are arguing that she isn't global enough but what you actually mean is that you want her to focus on the middle east instead of the west. It's hypocritical.

And before you say "but I care about North Koreans too!" Well, you didn't bring them up... Only the Middle East (excluding Israel of course), so why are you pretending you're thinking globally?

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Ugh the ego in this thread.

[Didymus 34,380]

Just now, uo111 said:

It's so silly to me that people are inventing false motivations behind terror attacks. A terror organization would not stop committing terror attacks if we just left them alone. Moving past that point.

I see you talking about terror attacks in Beirut, but there were terror attacks elsewhere too. And lest we all forget about North Korea. I mean really North Koreans are worse off than Syrians, but the world doesn't give a ****. I mean, http://www.christianpost.com/news/ghost-north-korean-ships-dozens-dead-bodies-wash-ashore-in-japan-151463/
You are arguing that she isn't global enough but what you actually mean is that you want her to focus on the middle east instead of the west. It's hypocritical.

And before you say "but I care about North Koreans too!" Well, you didn't bring them up... Only the Middle East (excluding Israel of course), so why are you pretending you're thinking globally?

I only brought up Beirut, Pakistan and Nigeria because all innocent civilians there are suffering from Islamic terrorism as well and they all had news items about it around the same time as Paris. I thought that was obvious, but I'm not mad that you're bringing awareness of other topics with you

No one can know about everything that's going on in the world, Christ, definitely not me. I mean, I definitely didn't pretend I was thinking globally in my posts, I get why it came across that way though, but I still didn't, I'd never say that.

[lego 44,165]

10 minutes ago, Cupid Boy said:

she doesn't have a good memories from muslim community , you know what i mean ... so don't you dare to blame her on the fact that she didn't tweet about the palestine or beirut ... some  celebrites tweeted somethin' about the gaza war such as rihanna and after afew jewesh objections they delete their tweet and pretend nothing happend for the safety of their  career so i'm totally fine about  Gaga's silence for these conflicts

 

What....  

 

[Togekiss 2,528]

If Gaga posted about every mass shooting, civil war, murderous regime, famine... she would never get off Twitter. This is a single thought of hers at one point in time. The fact that she doesn't express sympathy every time something bad happens in the word is in no way "problematic". The amount of time certain little monsters have on their hands, however, is troubling.

[Mobster 14,604]

Just now, benihana said:

If Gaga posted about every mass shooting, civil war, murderous regime, famine... she would never get off Twitter. This is a single thought of hers at one point in time. The fact that she doesn't express sympathy every time something bad happens in the word is in no way "problematic". The amount of time certain little monsters have on their hands, however, is troubling.

But don't be surprised when something else happens and Gaga doesn't tweet about it... You'll see people making assumptions and complaining about her not tweeting... 

[Didymus 34,380]

3 minutes ago, benihana said:

If Gaga posted about every mass shooting, civil war, murderous regime, famine... she would never get off Twitter. This is a single thought of hers at one point in time. The fact that she doesn't express sympathy every time something bad happens in the word is in no way "problematic". The amount of time certain little monsters have on their hands, however, is troubling.

That's the exact opposite of what I'm asking, but ok.

[Togekiss 2,528]

1 minute ago, HMLSwine said:

But don't be surprised when something else happens and Gaga doesn't tweet about it... You'll see people making assumptions and complaining about her not tweeting... 

That's because people treat her like the gay pope instead of an #ARTPOPjazzpunk

[uo111 5,265]

5 minutes ago, Didymus said:

I only brought up Beirut, Pakistan and Nigeria because all innocent civilians there are suffering from Islamic terrorism as well and they all had news items about it around the same time as Paris. I thought that was obvious, but I'm not mad that you're bringing awareness of other topics with you

No one can know about everything that's going on in the world, Christ, definitely not me. I mean, I definitely didn't pretend I was thinking globally in my posts, I get why it came across that way though, but I still didn't, I'd never say that.

I get what you're trying to say.

It's just that we can't expect people to not focus on what their familiar with. Westerners will feel for Paris more than Beirut, for better or worse. We can encourage people to broaden their horizons by discussing it, but not by being... abrasive.