Gaga tweets about California mass shooting

[Mobster 14,604]

4 minutes ago, Whispering said:

Exactly. 

But Gaga's tweet won't stop media outlets from posting their faces... It's futile and gives a false sense of accomplishment... But at least she is saying more than #PrayFor____, I guess

[Gardevoir 9,845]

49 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Tired of these celebrities pretending to be spokespersons for political events when they systematically ignore 99% of it. It's a trend for them. It's despicable.

Well, extra but she's actually doing something. She can't write about every tragedy in this world and can't save the whole world. She has foundation I remind you.

[Whispering 18,865]

Just now, HMLSwine said:

But Gaga's tweet won't stop media outlets from posting their faces... It's futile and gives a false sense of achievement... But at least she is saying more than #PrayFor____

No, it won't stop it...but I have heard many people say the same thing. There is truth in her statement. A tweet isn't going to change how the media handles these types of  tragedies, but there is certainly nothing wrong with expressing your opinion and frustration over the way it is handled. 

[Slayer 9,227]

You're all mouthing off about her, while Gaga's just sitting there like that girl from Mean Girls who just wants to bake a cake made of rainbows and smiles. Give her a break. She is not fvcking Obama.

[Mobster 14,604]

3 minutes ago, Whispering said:

No, it won't stop it...but I have heard many people say the same thing. There is truth in her statement. A tweet isn't going to change how the media handles these types of  tragedies, but there is certainly nothing wrong with expressing your opinion and frustration over the way it is handled. 

If it's an organic reaction to what it's happening, I cannot complain about it... What I don't like is how social media has putten this invisible weight on "celebrities" to tweet about something, or else they "don't care"... I hope her tweet is not her bending in to these accusations... 

[GloZell Green 11,723]

Okay, Huns, first things first. Just because she didn't tweet about something didn't mean that she didn't care. You'll be damned if you assume that you know everything she thinks about and does in a day  She still prays and probably wishes the families of those who have perished the best. Secondly, tying into the previous statement, she doesn't just gave her phone while laying around all day. She is or hanky has things to do and finds out news afterwards. So blaming her for this is like saying the only thing you want her to do is be on her phone. Okay, and she tweeted about this first. You do realize that she's around this area and local news report quicker? There's alerts and other things to report, like when a terrorist was threatening to kill people hear. Did every single one of you know about this? So of course she knows. That's all  

[Mobster 14,604]

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[Whispering 18,865]

3 minutes ago, HMLSwine said:

If it's an organic reaction to what it's happening, I cannot complain about it... What I don't like is how social media has putten this invisible weight on "celebrities" to tweet about something, or else they "don't care"... I hope her tweet is not her bending in to these accusations... 

Or everyone is talking about it in California...the people she is around, so she tweeted about it. It's a simple reaction tweet to what is going on around her. 

Good grief, the woman can't even tweet out a simple human reaction without people over a--lyzing it to death. 

[PrinceGaga 7,585]

Yet another thread exemplifying why Gaga does not visit this site anymore. Can we please put the attention back on to the tragedy, as opposed to picking apart a tweet that Gaga wrote? 

This tragedy is close to Gagas home

About the flag: she has been to France and Paris many many times and has many many friends and fans who live there and have most probably been affected, hence her support. 

Move on, there are bigger problems in the world than a fvcking tweet. I mean, sh1t. 

[Didymus 34,380]

13 minutes ago, elijahfan said:

I'm fairly sure the only reason why people didn't talk that much about Beirut was because the media barely talked about it. The Paris attacks got a big reaction from Occident because it happened in Occident, and we're not used to it happening there. I mean you're from Belgium, right? I'm not teaching you anything new. The use of the French flag is not so much the symbol of solidarity solely towards the French people : I feel like it represents much more than that. Many people, Gaga included, extended their solidarity to the world.

Anyway, I'm not sure how I feel about your last sentence. I'm fairly sure this wasn't your intention, but it feels like you're saying we French people deserved what happened to us. Go say that to the 130 victims who were just hanging out in the streets and enjoying a concert. That's a really insensitive thing to say, and I wish some of you guys would just think 2 seconds before posting this kind of bs. I'm all for freedom of speech, and people can express their idiocy on online forums all they want if that makes them happy, but it's barely been 2 weeks, can't you have a little respect and decency and at least wait a little longer before putting words in people's mouths?

Already addressed this - the media DID report. There was even a counterreaction from journalists since a minority of people started to spread the idea that it was the media's fault that Beirut, Pakistan and Nigeria didn't get enough attention compared to Paris (http://www.vox.com/2015/11/16/9744640/paris-beirut-media).

I don't buy this idea of extending your solidarity to the world when you're ignoring what goes on in it. I mean, how does that even work in your head?

And no, obviously that's not what I meant. But it's extremely obvious to me that Hollande's military intervention in Syria and its impact (I mean, it's no secret that ISIS seeks to target France precisely because they're in direct military opposition against them) has been kept under the radar, making it seem like new attacks are necessary, which a now scared and desperate people will be more ready to embrace, failing to make the link between the violence in Syria and how it's actually putting civilians in France in danger.

I think I am showing fair amounts of respect and decency to all innocent people who are at risk of being attacked because of what their governments are doing above their heads. When I am criticizing France, I am criticizing French governing. I don't think it's that hard to get that. It was an absolute political atrocity to see Hollande using public fear and confusion to extend the hopeless and downright dangerous idea of expanding military intervention and what was even more atrocious was that people readily swallowed it.

17 minutes ago, Totodile said:

Now you're making skewed comparisons though. Not all ISIS-related incidents have gotten the amount of coverage that the Paris attacks got (or at least, not in my country). A ton of the incedents probably get a short minute-long item (at most) on a news show or a relatively small article in a newspaper, while the Paris incident got live coverage, headlines and tons of online traffic even while they were still happening - not to mention the coverage that came after it. That's all in the hands of the media, and I don't have a doubt in my mind that getting ratings is one of(!) the main contributing reasons.

The media is definitely not the only "ignorant" party here though. You're right in saying that a lot of people simply don't show as much of an interest in other similar issues - regardless of media coverage. People are naturally incredibly selective, as I've already adressed in my previous post. But you have to understand that the things that people are interested in and the things that the media is discussing is incredibly interwoven. The media has a huge power in creating a demand for a certain type of information like, for example, wanting to put a name on the attackers and discussing it multiple times, thus creating curiosity and steering public debate. Creating notoriety. At the same time, the media also picks up on what people are talking about and see how they can turn it into a mass topic of discussion. It goes back and forth like that, with tons of factors contributing to what people do and don't consider interesting. But it can't be denied that the media has a huuuuuuge say in what is and isn't part of public debate, and Gaga is right for adressing them (the people in media with power) for being responsible about which parts of society they want to put a magnifying glass on right now.

Again: already addressed this, see above. The media definitely blew up Paris, but people are always happy to forget that papers print what people read. And you don't even have to be that cynical since political events related to ISIS and Islamic terrorism in general are nearly always reported objectively throughout the year. So no, there is most definitely an interrelation between the public and the media and people who blame the media, to me are just people who don't have the decency and self-respect to utilize modern advantages to get informed without someone having to spoonfeed them.

I'm not neglecting the role of the media, but you're neglecting the role of common people in how the Paris incident was transformed into more than it was. It was not the media who called the attack a violation of universal rights and freedom. It was not the media who abused the event to shine inappropriate lights on military intervention, the refugee current and what not. It was not the media who started praying for Paris and it was not the media who forgot what happened in other parts of the world before or after Paris. You're overestimating their role in this particular instance for sure.

I'm fine with Gaga addressing the role of media or whatever she wants to address, but that doesn't even relate to my point. My point was that she's in no position to talk about using your position to spread not just awareness but also harmony and peace when her own avatar shows an absolute lack of concern for stepping outside of the political awareness vaccuum that the interplay between media and audience is keeping intact.

[lego 44,165]

19 minutes ago, Whispering said:

If the shooters are white Christians, their names and faces will be all over the news. 

It isnt just Fox News that gives attention to these shooters. All media outlets do the same. 

Yes but there is also fear-mongering, calls for racial profiling, calls for (more) bombing, that's not the case when the shooters are white christians. That is also fault of the media.

[Mobster 14,604]

What I do like about her tweet, though, is that she's not specifically talking about California, but rather making a general statement about how these situations should be handled 

[AlexanderLevi2 5,849]

41 minutes ago, Didymus said:

But she's not. She's painting the media as distorters and implying that proper reporting is even related to future criminality Which is incredibly ironic since like the Paris incident showed, the media did report about all ISIS-related incidents, globally, but it were the readers who ignored all of it and yes, 99% of all celebrities on Twitter ignored everything but Paris, contributing massively to the ignorance about the global political context, which politicians like Obama and Hollande, in turn, will use to promote contradictory and dangerous proposals such as increased military intervention.

If anything, journalists should be praised to death for reporting on issues that only 1% of Western populations will read just because it doesn't come close to home enough for others. This tweet of hers inspires nothing but a continuation of political bliss disguised as empathy.

Gaga is a human being and she's flawed. Don't get too caught up in it. The best you can do is have your voice heard and educate others. I don't think she did this to hurt anyone per say, she might just be ignorant toward the things that happen in a global context. 

 

It's going to be okay. I'm sure she is more aware of things than we think.

[Didymus 34,380]

7 minutes ago, AlexanderLevi2 said:

Gaga is a human being and she's flawed. Don't get too caught up in it. The best you can do is have your voice heard and educate others. I don't think she did this to hurt anyone per say, she might just be ignorant toward the things that happen in a global context. 

Of course, she obviously doesn't mean any harm, god bless her

I wasn't gunning for her, I'm just tired of these celebrities unintentionally (but seriously, some of them should know better, especially when they tweet **** like this) contributing to the opposite of what they're trying to achieve. I mean, to remove the focus off of Gaga, it reminds me of when Selena Gomez started ranting about Palestine without knowing what the **** she was saying Celebrities just have to be aware of the fact that even though their opinion isn't more important than others (when it's related to politics anyway), they have massive influence.

I mean, imagine what a simple tweet of Gaga: "Don't forget about Beirut" could've done for the world. Loads. Am I blaming her for that? No. But not a single major celebrity did anything of the sort and that pisses me off because they were all acting high and mighty and noble about supporting Paris, apparently as a sign of empathy, clearly uninterested in seeing the bigger picture or using their influence for good. That's when I raise my eyebrows and that's when I b---h to an understandably annoying degree about tweets like this, although it's really the combination of the tweet and her avatar that bugged me here, which is probably something people don't completely get.

[Sister 9,907]

Gaga means well and she can write whatever is on her mind on twitter, just as everyone else. Complain as you may, but she will go on as she wishes. What she wrote is fine and just shows that she is aware of what is going on in the media and news currently. Gaga has a lot of heart.