Didymus 34,380 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Lets not act like Israel gets nothing. Israel gets the most condemnations in the UN. That result in nothing practical Who cares. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 She says she is not anti-semitic meanwhile on her fb page That is Anti-Semitism. Also wondering if they are boycotting every other Middle Eastern state. I doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,675 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 She says she is not anti-semitic meanwhile on her fb page That is Anti-Semitism. Also wondering if they are boycotting every other Middle Eastern state. I doubt. Can you explain to me how this is anti-Semitic? It looks like a statement that she's making that she thinks what is going on in Gaza has a similar pattern than what the Holocaust had. This is a criticism of the Israeli government. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Iceland is a weird country. Also known for banning dogs and ****ography. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Can you explain to me how this is anti-Semitic? It looks like a statement that she's making that she thinks what is going on in Gaza has a similar pattern than what the Holocaust had. This is a criticism of the Israeli government. first of all Gaza and the Holocaust are two completely different things. I don't think I need to explain more , but the Holocaust was a specific systematic murder of Jewish people. (Over 6 million). Comparing Netanyahu, a Jew, (even if he has very questionable views) to Hitler is anti-semitic as well. You just can't compare the oppressed people to the the oppressor. Saying Gaza is like the Holocaust is a huge slap for not only Israelis, but also for Jews all over the world. Stop using our tragedy for your political agenda. It's very revisionist. If they said on the photo "genocide", it would be arguable but calling it the Holocaust and comparing Netanyahu to Hitler is anti-semitic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,675 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 first of all Gaza and the Holocaust are two completely different things. I don't think I need to explain more , but the Holocaust was a specific systematic murder of Jewish people. (Over 6 million). Comparing Netanyahu, a Jew, (even if he has very questionable views) to Hitler is anti-semitic as well. You just can't compare the oppressed people to the the oppressor. Saying Gaza is like the Holocaust is a huge slap for not only Israelis, but also for Jews all over the world. Stop using our tragedy for your political agenda. It's very revisionist. If they said on the photo "genocide", it would be arguable but calling it the Holocaust and comparing Netanyahu to Hitler is anti-semitic. Metaphor: Implied or hidden comparison between two things or objects that are poles apart from each other but have some characteristics common between them. In other words, a resemblance of two contradictory or different objects is made based on a single or some common characteristics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Metaphor: Implied or hidden comparison between two things or objects that are poles apart from each other but have some characteristics common between them. In other words, a resemblance of two contradictory or different objects is made based on a single or some common characteristics.It doesn't matter if it is a metaphor or not. Some things like The holocaust can't be compared to nothing. 90% of my family died during the Shoah, I ask you to respect that and not comparing it, okay? I have a Palestinian friend and she agrees that Gaza is nothing like the Holocaust because it's something different. You can't compare apples to bananas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 first of all Gaza and the Holocaust are two completely different things. I don't think I need to explain more , but the Holocaust was a specific systematic murder of Jewish people. (Over 6 million). Comparing Netanyahu, a Jew, (even if he has very questionable views) to Hitler is anti-semitic as well. You just can't compare the oppressed people to the the oppressor. Saying Gaza is like the Holocaust is a huge slap for not only Israelis, but also for Jews all over the world. Stop using our tragedy for your political agenda. It's very revisionist. If they said on the photo "genocide", it would be arguable but calling it the Holocaust and comparing Netanyahu to Hitler is anti-semitic. Why does it matter if Netanyahu is a Jew, when they were zionist militia in the past who collaborated with Nazis? What were those Jews then? You cannot compare oppressed with oppressor? In this case Netanyahu is clearly the oppressor, he was never oppressed. It's his own decisions that make people despise him and he should be prosecuted for war crimes and crimes against humanity. The world should not just forget all of the victims.You are acting as if, because of the past, no Jew can ever do anything remotely evil and that's simply not true. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Why does it matter if Netanyahu is a Jew, when they were zionist militia in the past who collaborated with Nazis? What were those Jews then? You cannot compare oppressed with oppressor? In this case Netanyahu is clearly the oppressor, he was never oppressed. It's his own decisions that make people despise him and he should be prosecuted for war crimes and crimes against humanity. The world should not just forget all of the victims. You are acting as if, because of the past, no Jew can ever do anything remotely evil and that's simply not true. That zionist collaborated with Nazis are conspiracy theories I guess? I never heard of it I never said or defend Netanyahu. It's just not right to compare him to Hitler or the Holocaust. It's a provocation against Jews. I hate what Netanyahu does and said that. I even agreed that you can discuss Gaza with "genocide", but not Holocaust. I never said that Jews can do something evil, where did you got that from?! I stated several times that his views are very questionable and that he sucks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,675 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 It doesn't matter if it is a metaphor or not. Some things like The holocaust can't be compared to nothing. 90% of my family died during the Shoah, I ask you to respect that and not comparing it, okay? I have a Palestinian friend and she agrees that Gaza is nothing like the Holocaust because it's something different. You can't compare apples to bananas.Metaphors compare things that are DIFFERENT but have SOME similar elements. Also, that poster is being used to promote the idea that the Israeli government is tyrannical, etc. I don't think calling everything that criticizes Israel anti-Semitic is productive in any way. I comprehend what you mean, but I think it's better to a--lyze what is being said or shown before making accusations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 Metaphors compare things that are DIFFERENT but have SOME similar elements. Also, that poster is being used to promote the idea that the Israeli government is tyrannical, etc. I don't think calling everything that criticizes Israel anti-Semitic is productive in any way. I comprehend what you mean, but I think it's better to a--lyze what is being said or shown before making accusations. If they said their message (I guess the message ist that Israel does a genocide or similar) different I wouldn't say anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 That zionist collaborated with Nazis are conspiracy theories I guess? I never heard of it I never said or defend Netanyahu. It's just not right to compare him to Hitler or the Holocaust. It's a provocation against Jews. I hate what Netanyahu does and said that. I even agreed that you can discuss Gaza with "genocide", but not Holocaust. I never said that Jews can do something evil, where did you got that from?! I stated several times that his views are very questionable and that he sucks. I don't have now much time but " Lehi split from the Irgun militant group in 1940 in order to continue fighting the British during World War II. Lehi initially sought an alliance with Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, offering to fight alongside them against the British in return for the transfer of all Jews from Nazi-occupied Europe to Palestine.[2]Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis.[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(group) There are references in the link. It still doesn't mean that those people are antisemitic or that they have any kind of hatred towards Jewish people. It's clear that it's all about the government policies. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 I don't have now much time but " Lehi split from the Irgun militant group in 1940 in order to continue fighting the British during World War II. Lehi initially sought an alliance with Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, offering to fight alongside them against the British in return for the transfer of all Jews from Nazi-occupied Europe to Palestine.[2]Believing that Nazi Germany was a lesser enemy of the Jews than Britain, Lehi twice attempted to form an alliance with the Nazis.[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(group) There are references in the link. It still doesn't mean that those people are antisemitic or that they have any kind of hatred against the Jewish people. It's clear that it's all about the government policies. Well, I guess they failed. Millions of died and it can't be changed. Would be awful to give Jews now fault for the Holocaust. But they can criticize it differently. That's my point. It's a slap for every Jew, not only for Israelis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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