Netanyahu wants to authorize sniper fire against stone-throwers

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Netanyahu asks attorney general to authorize sniper fire against stone-throwers

At emergency meeting on tensions in Jerusalem, it emerged that there is a difference in open-fire regulations for police and Israel's army. AG asked to okay police following same guidelines as military.

There is a significant difference in the open fire regulations followed by Israel Police and by the Israeli army. This is what emerged in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu emergency meeting with senior members of Israel's defense establishment on Tuesday about the increasing tensions and violence in Jerusalem.  

 

While the Israel Defense Forces permits troops in the West Bank to operate snipers and use small caliber 0.22 inch Ruger rifles fitted with a sniper scope, the police is not allowed to do this.

 

When it comes to the IDF, sniper and Ruger fire are allowed when firebombs or large stones are being thrown and commanders in the field are certain that lives are in danger. Shots are mostly fired at perpetrators' legs. In Jerusalem police units, meanwhile, such measures are not allowed. Open fire regulations only permit using crowd dispersal measures, such as firing rubber bullets and throwing tear gas grenades.

 

Ahead of an additional meeting on the security situation set for Monday, Israel's Attorney General Yehuda Weinstein has been asked to give an opinion on whether to allow the police to follow the same open fire regulations as the army does in the West Bank. Ruger rifles were used in the West Bank during the Second Intifada. They were prohibited for a few years after a number of Palestinian youths were killed by Ruger fire. Today, their use is once again permitted.  

 

Attendees at Netanyahu's emergency meeting Tuesday said that allowing police to follow these guidelines would only require an internal police adjustment, and not a change in legislation. If, that is, Weinstein okays it.

 

The IDF says that the permissive West Bank regulations are necessary because of a great number of incidents where Israeli lives are in danger because of firebombs and thrown stones. So far, Netanyahu, Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon and Public Security Minister Gilad Erdan support police following the same guidelines as part of their fight against Palestinian stone throwers in Jerusalem.   

 

Netanyahu, who visited the Armon Hanatziv neighborhood in Jerusalem Wednesday - the site of the deadly car crash that took place on Sunday after stones were thrown at the vehicle - said that the government would take an even harder line on stone throwers. The policy will change, "not just in Jerusalem and the main routes to [the city]. But also in the Galilee and in the Negev," he said.   

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.676190

 

 

So he wants to allow police to murder Palestinians with same impunity as Israel's army.

 

What happens to illegal settler stone-throwers? 

 

[Morphine Prince 109,656]

Is this the 21st century? 

[Didymus 34,380]

I can't believe he used that incident in Armon Hanatziv that was already under a lot of international scrutiny because the Israeli account seemed false

& I can't believe he's equating firebombs with stones thrown in Jerusalem, where the perpetrators can actually be caught and brought before a justice system without unnecessary violence. I don't believe a stone can pose a life threat to a police man in a protective outfit.

(Pro-)Israeli's have a lot to say about how Palestinians elected and keep strengthening the rule of a maniacal organization but I have to say Israel did just fine on their own by electing a man who is willing to break several international legal agreements, use unnecessary violence against Palestinians, is now desiring unnecessary violence against actual Israeli's and is so explicitly opposed to a solution of the Israel-Palestine conflict it becomes too sad to be funny.

This man needs to go. Fast.

[1986 629]

 

gun vs stone? I can't!

   

[wahkeenasitka 1,995]

man this David vs. Goliath sh*t never ends, does it...............

[Melech 9,900]

I can't believe he used that incident in Armon Hanatziv that was already under a lot of international scrutiny because the Israeli account seemed false

& I can't believe he's equating firebombs with stones thrown in Jerusalem, where the perpetrators can actually be caught and brought before a justice system without unnecessary violence. I don't believe a stone can pose a life threat to a police man in a protective outfit.

(Pro-)Israeli's have a lot to say about how Palestinians elected and keep strengthening the rule of a maniacal organization but I have to say Israel did just fine on their own by electing a man who is willing to break several international legal agreements, use unnecessary violence against Palestinians, is now desiring unnecessary violence against actual Israeli's and is so explicitly opposed to a solution of the Israel-Palestine conflict it becomes too sad to be funny.

This man needs to go. Fast.

I dislike that you think that pro-Israel would support this. Pro-Israel means agreeing with the existence of Israel. Supporting netanjahu and being pro-Israel are two pair of shoes.

anyway on topic: I think that you won't be able to fight fire with gasoline. Peace, no war.

[Didymus 34,380]

I dislike that you think that pro-Israel would support this. Pro-Israel means agreeing with the existence of Israel. Supporting netanjahu and being pro-Israel are two pair of shoes.

Dude..

Read the sentence again and don't read the invisible magic words you're apparently seeing. I said that many pro-Israel people (and not even just pro-Israel people but even European governments) lay the blame at Hamas' feet (and the people who voted for them). That's it. I think now with Netanyahu it becomes more clear every week that Israel is now too ruled by a maniac and maybe we should start ****yzing Israeli leadership and its impact on the Palestine-Israel conflict a little more objectively instead of putting all the weight on the description of Hamas as a terrorist organization ('cause you know that the "What is Israel supposed to do? Accept the terms of a terrorist organization?!" argument is used every five seconds).

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we should start ****yzing 

 

 

[Melech 9,900]

Dude..

Read the sentence again and don't read the invisible magic words you're apparently seeing. I said that many pro-Israel people (and not even just pro-Israel people but even European governments) lay the blame at Hamas' feet (and the people who voted for them). That's it. I think now with Netanyahu it becomes more clear every week that Israel is now too ruled by a maniac and maybe we should start ****yzing Israeli leadership and its impact on the Palestine-Israel conflict a little more objectively instead of putting all the weight on the description of Hamas as a terrorist organization ('cause you know that the "What is Israel supposed to do? Accept the terms of a terrorist organization?!" argument is used every five seconds).

you Never Said some.

we shouldn't make Hamas less harmful as it is as well. 

 

[Didymus 34,380]

you Never Said some.

we shouldn't make Hamas less harmful as it is as well. 

I didn't but I didn't think that someone would actually read it as: every single pro-Israel person has to have make a comment about how the Palestinians made a mistake in electing Hamas as their leader (and let's be honest, at least 90% must have said it once).

I don't make Hamas less harmful either

I just think it's more than obvious now that Netanyahu is as dangerous as Hamas in every respect.

we should start ****yzing 

 

 

I've known it's censored for two full days now but I keep making the same mistake

[Goosey 3,017]

While the Israel Defense Forces permits troops in the West Bank to operate snipers and use small caliber 0.22 inch Ruger rifles fitted with a sniper scope, the police is not allowed to do this.

When it comes to the IDF, sniper and Ruger fire are allowed when firebombs or large stones are being thrown and commanders in the field are certain that lives are in danger. Shots are mostly fired at perpetrators' legs.

Well, stones are a lot larger than a .22.

 

 

[Goosey 3,017]

When it comes to the IDF, sniper and Ruger fire are allowed when firebombs or large stones are being thrown and commanders in the field are certain that lives are in danger.

And wait, if their lives are in danger why wouldn't they shoot? 

[lego 44,165]

Well, stones are a lot larger than a .22.

 

 

are you seriously comparing them in size?  

then that coin is as dangerous as bullet. 

 

And wait, if their lives are in danger why wouldn't they shoot? 

When settlers do the same, why wouldn't Palestinians shoot? Oh wait, they don't have army nor police. Why wouldn't Hamas shoot?

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They also claimed many times that their lives were in danger until video leaks proved otherwise. 

When they kill them, they can say whatever they want. 

[TiphEret 1,320]

You know, if it's also to prevent Palestinian to be harmed by crazy fondamentalists settlers that have fun burning houses maybe the police need to have such weapon. Against stones however that's being a but too much... But what is too much for Netanayuh I don't know...