ARTPOP is an experimental songwriting and vocal album

[Yanko 9,860]

well Portishead and Bjork (especially Medulla), even some Bowie b-side albums (Low b-sides) are experimental, not FKA Twigs lmao

 

i love bjork and i know

fka twigs is experimental as well 

[TimisaMonster 31,073]

I'm not even a Bowie fan and I hear it. 

 

"The Guardian admitted it was "a relief that the song's intro is brilliantly camp, adding: "All squelchy synths and juddering beats, Gaga singing in an oddly pitched, almost David Bowie-esque vocal style. A ridiculous glam-rock song given a techno makeover. It's good to have her back."

 http://m.digitalspy.co.uk/music/news/a506284/lady-gagas-applause-gets-mixed-reaction-from-critics.html#~pn3ANgjlAFB2Y9

 

"Musically, the song contains electropop and Eurodance. Lyrically, it deals with how she is dependent on her fans' adoration, while her vocals on the track have been compared by music critics to those of Annie Lennox of the Eurythmics and David Bowie. "

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applause_(Lady_Gaga_song)

I guess sir if you say so...some of us just hear Gaga 

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

Swine is a diss track first and foremost. One would have not known it is about rape if Gaga herself didn't say so. Diss tracks were a thing already from the stone age. Regardless, a song (from any genre) about rape is not experimental. Madonna sang about wanting to kill her ex husband because he stole her money, that topic was not explored before, does that make MDNA experimental? 

Madonna has many experimental tracks. No one is denying that. She has used sound in the past differently but mostly her lyrics are experimental. They push the boundaries of what is the norm and leave you thinking. I don't know the lyrics of the song you are referring to but yes Madonna has many songs that are experimental. Off the top of my head I'd say Bedtime Stories and Frozen were experimental POP.  The Erotica album and S.E.X. book were a social experiment. 

[XoXoJoanneGaga 629]

Again we are having this argument between the difference of Experimental music and experimental pop which has 2 different definitions. No one is saying she is creating experimental music. At least I haven't said that. She is creating experimental artistic POP.

Sure, it goes experimental music --> pop artist/band is is influenced by said experimental music and uses elements of it in a palatable way to extend the boundaries of popular music. It's essentially the difference between musical influence and cultural influence.

But Gaga isn't really doing that either. There have been small examples here and there where she's employed a musical idea or technique in a way that was fresh for pop music, but not that many, and they were on her first two releases not her last two.

[Harry 26,836]

LOL, I think you misunderstood my point. And my point is that the album is experimental because no one really tries so much writing and singing styles within the same album. The diversity is an experimentation itself. But anyways, even within some of the single points I pointed out. You could find experimentation. For example, for Venus, what I mean is that Gaga uses all kinds of words in a collage/juxtaposition form, rather then in a storytelling straightforward form (like most artists do). In Aura, Gaga talks about random things personal to her in order to personify her disordered and complex mind, once again attempting a new experimental type of song writing. And I could go on about the other points too. ARTPOP just has a very unconventional and experimental type of songwriting and singing.

it's unconventional and experimental if all you listen to is top 40 pop

[TheResidentZionist 128]

I like the idea. I've always seen ARTPOP as being experimental in its album format. It's takes the concept of duality ( ART + POP) by having its subject matter and narrative constantly mirroring itself. Aura is very emotionally distant about love.  Then Venus is very emotionally desperate for it almost POWERLESS. Then in GUY there is power and control. Then s-xx dreams is losing control. Ect 

[Katsuki Bakugo 9,788]

 no

nothing u mentioned is experimental

paying tribute to someone is not experimental 

fka twigs music is experimental not ARTPOP 

 

it would be experimental for anyone else but Fka Twigs though. 

 

[Harry 26,836]

MJH...Applause...ARTPOP...Venus. The intro to Venus alone is enough. 

I'm still not seeing the comparison. Point to some specific examples from Zappa etc?

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

Sure, it goes experimental music --> pop artist/band is is influenced by said experimental music and uses elements of it in a palatable way to extend the boundaries of popular music. It's essentially the difference between musical influence and cultural influence.

But Gaga isn't really doing that either. There have been small examples here and there where she's employed a musical idea or technique in a way that was fresh for pop music, but not that many, and they were on her first two releases not her last two.

So what your are saint is songs like Venus, Gypsy, Swine, Aura and Applause have been heard many times before in pop. Elaborate please.

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

I'm still not seeing the comparison. Point to some specific examples from Zappa etc?

Here hun. Lyrical content plays a big role in experimental music. Here is an article about it where MTV compare her to Zappa. 

http://www.mtv.com/news/1656878/lady-gaga-born-this-way-lyrics/

[XoXoJoanneGaga 629]

So what your are saint is songs like Venus, Gypsy, Swine, Aura and Applause have been heard many times before in pop. Elaborate please.

Yes. EDM and House beats have influenced countless pop songs over the last many years, that should just be common knowledge for anyone who keeps up with pop music. Listen to Matangi if you want an obvious specific example.

But I can't believe you would bring up Gypsy and Venus, that makes it hard for me to take this seriously at all. One is a Springsteenian power ballad, the other is a disco song with a 70's space groove. I would die before being able to composite a list of all the songs that sound like that over the last 45 years. But, here's a hint: some of them are in Gaga's own discography..

[Alcina Dimitrescu 1,156]

omg get banned

[Chromatislaps 34,851]

the woman herself said that the album is full of radio friendly pop bops

like just enjoy the bops enough with this experimental talk  

if someone is gonna say that Gaga's music is experimental they should listen to Björk (even Björk in her pop era) or FKA Twigs..and then they should talk about experimental  

[Benji 20,113]

So what your are saint is songs like Venus, Gypsy, Swine, Aura and Applause have been heard many times before in pop. Elaborate please.

Venus is the Poker Face, Bad Romance, Judas/Scheisse of ARTPOP

Gypsy is TEOG of ARTPOP

Swine sounds like a watered down pop/house track

Aura is pretty standard EDM but with Gaga's signature writing

Applause is the Just Dance of ARTPOP

[crisTEAne 21,059]

Here hun. Lyrical content plays a big role in experimental music. Here is an article about it where MTV compare her to Zappa. 

http://www.mtv.com/news/1656878/lady-gaga-born-this-way-lyrics/

YAS, clock them.

then watch them ignore it and call it irrelevant journalism. obviously, the only valid standpoint is theirs which—again, obviously—also makes it a "fact."