Was ARTPOP overhyped?

[Benji 20,113]

1) Very early title announcement2) New song on tour with no release date looming
3) Sound puzzles
4) Early producer reveals
5) Recording studio pictures
6) Secret events casting speculation
7) Very early lyric releases
8) Inventions unveiled early
9) New music being played from the car

 

1) Bad move cause the fans started getting tired of the name/concept - agreed

2) It was not on the album - irrelevant

3) Not on the album - irrelevant

4) Not important for the public and most people don't even pay attention to the producers. It's good to reveal the persons you are working with early.

5) It's hype but it was ok, the fans were compaining because of the big blackout Gaga had, they wanted something.

6) That's fans making hype themselves, nothing more

7) It's hype but it's the same with 6.

8) The inventions were stupid hype I agree cause most of them were never used and it's better when she reveals her inventions on stage during their use for the first time.

9) That was a good hype to draw some attention on Gag aafter the big blackout she had.

 

All in all, the hype you mention above was more than neccesary. Since you were her in  2012 - early 2013, the fans had big meltdowns ecause of Gaga's big abscence. She moved from the overexposure of BTW to complete abscense with pre ARTPOP, the fans needed some hype back then.

1) Okay, we're agreed on this
2) It caused anticipation and insight on the album, even if it was scrapped later. Very relevant.
3) Once again, gave insight into the sound of the album. Relevant.
4) There's always publicity when a big artist is working with producers. Look at Redone for LG5, that's been reported on quite a bit by various websites. It's still hype.
5) Agreed, it's hype
6) It's still hype, especially when there's a veil of mystery. That's like saying Beyonce wasn't generating hype by filming in public.... it caused hype and anticipation.
7) Yes.... it's hype?
8) Ahh we agree! It's a shame the fibre optic wig didn't get more exposure. I lowkey stanned for it
9) Agreed again, it's hype! Just remember this came VERY early on.

 

I was simply answering your question. Was ARTPOP overhyped? In my opinion, it was! The moves artists make before an album release cause hype and Gaga done A LOT of moves that pointed towards her next release. What made the hype worse was the hip injury (which obviously isn't her fault) as it pushed back the release meaning all of this hype surrounding her just sat cooking away getting bigger.

It was inevitable ARTPOP was going to be overhyped.

[Guest]

The only "overhyping" she did was when she talked about things that eventually never happened. Meaning, DWUW and Venus video, video for all songs, app features, ARTPOP Act 2, ARTPOP movie, saying songs like TEA were on the album and talking about how good they were and than not releasing them (), releasing lyrics to songs that never were released,  etc. 

[Yanko 9,860]

reported. the hateful one here is you and you alone.

you only proved that you were wrong. what did you just say? oh right, b---h. 

 

[Benji 20,113]

Hmmmmmm

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Lemme bump this to the next page to remind these heathens who they're talking about

[VforVendetta 2,024]

1) Okay, we're agreed on this2) It caused anticipation and insight on the album, even if it was scrapped later. Very relevant.
3) Once again, gave insight into the sound of the album. Relevant.
4) There's always publicity when a big artist is working with producers. Look at Redone for LG5, that's been reported on quite a bit by various websites. It's still hype.
5) Agreed, it's hype
6) It's still hype, especially when there's a veil of mystery. That's like saying Beyonce wasn't generating hype by filming in public.... it caused hype and anticipation.
7) Yes.... it's hype?
8) Ahh we agree! It's a shame the fibre optic wig didn't get more exposure. I lowkey stanned for it
9) Agreed again, it's hype! Just remember this came VERY early on.

 

I was simply answering your question. Was ARTPOP overhyped? In my opinion, it was! The moves artists make before an album release cause hype and Gaga done A LOT of moves that pointed towards her next release. What made the hype worse was the hip injury (which obviously isn't her fault) as it pushed back the release meaning all of this hype surrounding her just sat cooking away getting bigger.

It was inevitable ARTPOP was going to be overhyped.

But Gaga can't just sit back and do nothing musically between each Era, can she? She is an artists, not a musicproducing machine.

The thing is that most of this hype was needed judging by Gaga's position in the industry after the BTWB. I also think that in the last weeks before the album release, maybe more hype for the GP wans needed.

 

My point is that ARTPOP was hyped, it wasn't overhyped.

ARTPOP was overmessed up.

[Didymus 34,379]

@VforVendetta Sorry I stayed on topic for as long as I could but I failed.

[Knife 6,882]

The hype reached a fever pitch once she started talking about inventions, "reverse warholian expeditions" and other half-baked ideas that would ultimately fall to the wayside.

The problem with ARTPOP is that the era promised a lot more than it produced, and what it did actually deliver was pretty unremarkable.

Let's all hope she takes the lessons she learned from the failures of the ARTPOP era and applies them to the next pop album. 

 

 

[VforVendetta 2,024]

@VforVendetta Sorry I stayed on topic for as long as I could but I failed.

Why are you even asking sorry to me it's ok, I just don't like seeing you guys being upset like that over nothing.  

[Klou 2,414]

I felt like your post was using my own words. Could not agree more, especially about people over listening to demos before official release. Every damn time a demo or live version is released before an album the fans b*tch about the final version because they're so used to the original. Alejandro, Government Hooker, and Aura are great examples.

I learned a long time ago to not over listen to songs before the album release and I never get disappointed. Some people should take note.

[Rabbit Heart 617]

The main problem of ARTPOP era was that Gaga didn't have a manager for a few months and her label did whatever they wanted with her. 

Second problem was music! I love ARTPOP but I can't help but notice how some songs turned out like unfinished versions, the begining of Aura is absolutely awful!! I was watching some Spotify presentation and they came by ARTPOP and started playing tracks and they skipped almost every song after only 5 secs with wtf faces, at the end they played ARTPOP the song and continued presentation! 

Third problem was Applause vs Roar aka Gaga vs Katy mess, which was literary made and planned by Perry's team since it worked for them for years dragging Katy's name over Gaga's back! 

Was it overhyped? Yes! But overall it was a nice album with amazing catchy verses and chourses but it did not seem finished yet, after 2 years it still seemed unfinished!

I hope that mess with ARTPOP era will never happen again! 

[Mister Gaga 22,913]

Gaga announced ARTPOP 15 months BEFORE its release  It was very overhyped

[Benji 20,113]

But Gaga can't just sit back and do nothing musically between each Era, can she? She is an artists, not a musicproducing machine.

The thing is that most of this hype was needed judging by Gaga's position in the industry after the BTWB. I also think that in the last weeks before the album release, maybe more hype for the GP wans needed.

 

My point is that ARTPOP was hyped, it wasn't overhyped.

ARTPOP was overmessed up.

You asked if it was over-hyped, I said why I think it was. Clearly she had major plans for the era, as to why the whole thing was hyped for over a year and then we got a lacklustre album as payoff? That's the definition of over-hyping 

[VforVendetta 2,024]

You asked if it was over-hyped, I said why I think it was. Clearly she had major plans for the era, as to why the whole thing was hyped for over a year and then we got a lacklustre album as payoff? That's the definition of over-hyping 

I think that overhyping has to do with empty tweets and big words for no reason. Announcing plans but failing to make them is bad managing.The hype is neccesary for a successful Era, it's not like Gaga new all the problems and the mes sthat woulkd occur (I don't know if this makes any sence cause I'm too drunk at the moment but I think it does).

[Didymus 34,379]

I think that overhyping has to do with empty tweets and big words for no reason. Announcing plans but failing to make them is bad managing.The hype is neccesary for a successful Era, it's not like Gaga new all the problems and the mes sthat woulkd occur (I don't know if this makes any sence cause I'm too drunk at the moment but I think it does).

It does make sense but ARTPOP is just.. an incredibly complex example. I mean, she DID say that she didn't know if she would ever be able to top ARTPOP in like late 2012 I think. But for all we know she was talking about a different album. We know that Interscope heard a finished version of the album in the summer of 2012 and yet Gaga confessed to still have been working on songs the day before the deadline.

The truth is that there is no way to know for sure what Gaga's original vision was. She seemed really excited about the app and a year later she abandoned it because it apparently wasn't even her idea to begin with, even though it would've been the era's centerpiece (that would've lasted throughout her career). She couldn't possibly have known that the app was gonna crash and burn, so I wouldn't call that overhyping but the truth is that the hype was made, also by her, and that the end result suffered because of it.

The only thing that's really up for discussion in this thread is if we can call it overhyping because something went wrong. I think that's a fair statement but many people who think about the word "overhyping" just think about the general picture: a hype with promise and a disappointing product as a result of that hype. You could argue that if Gaga had never mentioned the groundbreaking projects for ARTPOP, it wouldn't have mattered that they didn't come true in the end. That would lead us to the conclusion that Gaga, unknowingly, did contribute to overhyping because she was apparently in a stage that should've told her to not make promises she didn't know she could keep.

[VforVendetta 2,024]

It does make sense but ARTPOP is just.. an incredibly complex example. I mean, she DID say that she didn't know if she would ever be able to top ARTPOP in like late 2012 I think. But for all we know she was talking about a different album. We know that Interscope heard a finished version of the album in the summer of 2012 and yet Gaga confessed to still have been working on songs the day before the deadline.

The truth is that there is no way to know for sure what Gaga's original vision was. She seemed really excited about the app and a year later she abandoned it because it apparently wasn't even her idea to begin with, even though it would've been the era's centerpiece (that would've lasted throughout her career). She couldn't possibly have known that the app was gonna crash and burn, so I wouldn't call that overhyping but the truth is that the hype was made, also by her, and that the end result suffered because of it.

The only thing that's really up for discussion in this thread is if we can call it overhyping because something went wrong. I think that's a fair statement but many people who think about the word "overhyping" just think about the general picture: a hype with promise and a disappointing product as a result of that hype. You could argue that if Gaga had never mentioned the groundbreaking projects for ARTPOP, it wouldn't have mattered that they didn't come true in the end. That would lead us to the conclusion that Gaga, unknowingly, did contribute to overhyping because she was apparently in a stage that should've told her to not make promises she didn't know she could keep.

I agree to some extend and I see your point but as I said above hype was needed after Gaga's big absence fromt he music scene. I agree that she didn't need to say big words in BTW Era cause she had all attention in her but with AP all publicity was needed, so I do think that it was not overhyping. It was just hyping, the result just wasn't the expected one.

You should see me face when I saw all that huge post though. I'm too drunk for this.  Going to bed tbh.