Mister Gaga 22,984 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Another assured box office success for Johny Deep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kayla 7,595 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Clearly they haven't ruined one of my favorite books enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staryu 6,162 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 The first movie was alright. I enjoyed it, but hopefully this one will be much better. I'm intrigued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelic 1,098 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Yeah, I'll go with the concensus that the 1st part was bad... hoping for some justice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haroon 49,685 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 The first one was literally painful to get through I've never actually forced myself to sit through a movie that much in my life I was so disappointed because visually it was amazing and it had such a stellar cast, yet it just fell face down. Plus it upset me further that it grossed SUCH a high amount, like imagining all of those people walking out of the cinema majorly underwhelmed But yeah I'll watch this one too but maybe not in the cinema Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 I remember reading the First Draft of Linda Woolverton's script (for the first movie), she actually planned a love relationship (!!!) between Alice and the Hatter, it was so awful tbh. It was actually Tim Burton who tried to make it a bit better, but as he once said: "I wouldn't recognize a bad screenplay, even if it bite me in the face." So there's that ... James Bobin said his a huge fan of Lewis Carroll's original books, I DEEPLY HOPE this time it will be a thousand times better and true to the source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 How can the same person who wrote The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast have written trash like Alice in Wonderland? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 How can the same person who wrote The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast have written trash like Alice in Wonderland? THIS. This so much - I wonder that too. I also thought her "Maleficent" script wasn't that good (I've read the first draft there as well ... Glad at least they re-wrote it) - now she's scripting the sequel, I just hope this time it will be much, much better. Hhmm: http://herocomplex.latimes.com/uncategorized/wonderland-screenwriter-is-ready-for-haterswn-path-its-audacious-what-weve-done/ I don't get her tbh ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sia Daily 2,045 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 I don't get why they changed the plot in the first one.They could've just done the classic story and now Through The Looking Glassseems pointless to meh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 THIS. This so much - I wonder that too. I also thought her "Maleficent" script wasn't that good (I've read the first draft there as well ... Glad at least they re-wrote it) - now she's scripting the sequel, I just hope this time it will be much, much better. Hhmm: http://herocomplex.latimes.com/uncategorized/wonderland-screenwriter-is-ready-for-haterswn-path-its-audacious-what-weve-done/ I don't get her tbh ... Maleficent was only a good movie due to Angelina herself. The script butchered the original character and reduced the iconic Disney villain to a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 The costumes of the new movie:http://www.slashfilm.com/alice-through-the-looking-glass-posters/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted August 15, 2015 Author Share Posted August 15, 2015 The problem isn't the director, it is the writer. Linda Woolverton doesn't know how to properly adapt the universe of Alice in Wonderland, going for the lowest common denominator instead along with the usual clichés. Why name the two films through their original sources if the films aren't based on the narratives? The first film wasn't an adaptation, it was a sequel, and the same will happen to this one ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimisaMonster 31,073 Posted August 15, 2015 Share Posted August 15, 2015 Disney is really getting into all these live adaptations of their older cartoon films...hope it's not SOOO dark like the first one Stream my new single, 💜"Heartbeat"💜, on Spotify! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 It was a dream of mine for many, many years to have Tim Burton direct an Alice film. I followed the project closely enough that I knew early on it would be akin to Spielberg's Hook (child protagonist grows up and returns to fantasy world to reconnect with old self), and I thought, "Okay, that's fine. There are enough literal adaptations of the book, anyway. This will be refreshing." Imagine my disappointment in seeing how unwhimsical and nonsensical it was.I place the fault solely on Woolverton's screenplay. She doesn't get Carroll's tone and wit and instead tries to mold his universe to fit the classic fantasy archetype found in The Chronicles of Narnia (I like to call this film Alice in Narnia, actually). The production design, costume design, effects, cinematography, and score were all excellent. The performances were quite good considering the material they were working with. The actors try to imbue some madness into their straightly-written characters with varying degrees of success. It's really that pedestrian script that bogs things down.Burton already had Woolverton do a re-write of her screenplay to make the Hatter more prominent and polish a few things (I've read her first draft, and a lot of it reads like fan fiction). I just wish he had her do another re-write to nail the tone. The problem with trying to pigeonhole Wonderland into a sensible fantasy world is that in fantasy, you have to have rules as to how this world works, an internal logic, as it were. The beauty of Wonderland is that there ARE no rules, so you're left with a dilemma. Either you stick to how Carroll presented this work and just make a crazy free-for-all, or you change the way things work so that they make sense. Woolverton only did a halfway job on the latter so that her Wonderland is neither the surreal dreamworld of Carroll's nor a fully-realized fantasy world ala Middle Earth or Narnia. I was hoping that with someone like James Bobin st the helm who has a knack for comedy and wit that maybe Looking Glass would embrace Carroll's madness more. Unfortunately, no one seemed enthused by the footage presented at the D23 Expo. Oh, well. Will I still see it? Yes. Am I expecting anything worthwhile from it? No. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 http://movieweb.com/d23-alice-through-the-looking-glass-video/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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