Whispering 18,865 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Whoops I marked the wrong part I meant "aren't going to be able to fully understand". You guys act like racial profiling and stuff like that ain't happen in other countries That part I believe. It's impossible to fully understand the layers and layers of bigotry ( not just what you read in books or see in articles) when compared to people who have lived in this society and seen and heard the hints, jokes, comments, looks and attitudes for their whole lives. Like I stated before, that doesn't mean that others can't have opinions. I also never said, nor do I believe, that racial profiling isn't happening in other countries. Once again, it's not a contest. There are however, unique circumstances in every country, due to the differences in history surrounding the bigotry and discrimination in each individual country. There are similarities, but there will also be differences, due to the history and atmosphere in each country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Key words: Fully understand You can't completely understand something you've never experienced. Racial profiling can occur in different forms depending on where you are. So I should degrade opinions of others about things in Europe ,because they don't live here? Racism,anti-semitism, anti-romani stuff is relevant. Personally been victim of it. Let's check the things Whispering said to my personal life.We've been in the hallways or on campuses and watched our classmates and teachers treat others differently. -Check. Happened.We've been in the stores and watched people get treated differently. -Check, also happens in EuropeWe've heard the conversations behind closed doors from aquintances, co-workers, friends or family members. We've heard the little "jokes" made by people we have been around. -Check, also happened here,especially jokes about Romani and heard friends saying ugly jokes about Jews, even if I was there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 That part I believe. It's impossible to fully understand the layers and layers of bigotry ( not just what you read in books or see in articles) when compared to people who have lived in this society and seen and heard the hints, jokes, comments, looks and attitudes for their whole lives. Like I stated before, that doesn't mean that others can't have opinions. I also never said, nor do I believe, that racial profiling isn't happening in other countries. Once again, it's not a contest. There are however, unique circumstances in every country, due to the differences in history surrounding the bigotry and discrimination in each individual country. There are similarities, but there will also be differences, due to the history and atmosphere in each country. Of course it's always different in each country. But even me and my family been under discrimination our whole lives So I know a little about how it is to be under racism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,681 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 So I should degrade opinions of others about things in Europe ,because they don't live here? Racism,anti-semitism, anti-romani stuff is relevant. Personally been victim of it. Let's check the things Whispering said to my personal life.We've been in the hallways or on campuses and watched our classmates and teachers treat others differently. -Check. Happened.We've been in the stores and watched people get treated differently. -Check, also happens in EuropeWe've heard the conversations behind closed doors from aquintances, co-workers, friends or family members. We've heard the little "jokes" made by people we have been around. -Check, also happened here,especially jokes about Romani and heard friends saying ugly jokes about Jews, even if I was there Ok, but it's still NOT the same experiences. How can you not understand that? I can have an opinion on European issues but I will never fully understand or even be able to fully comment on European societies if I have not lived there and experienced the culture and dynamics. I can only speak on the information I have available to me but the actual reality is different. So yes, racial profiling occurs everywhere but the history and context of that profiling are different everywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Ok, but it's still NOT the same experiences. How can you not understand that? I can have an opinion on European issues but I will never fully understand or even be able to fully comment on European societies if I have not lived there and experienced the culture and dynamics. I can only speak on the information I have available to be but the actual reality is different. So yes, racial profiling occurs everywhere but the history and context of that profiling are different everywhere. I never said it's the same experiences But I guess I need to agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,681 Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 I never said it's the same experiences But I guess I need to agree. Not same experiences = not able to FULLY comprehend the experiences. You can only scratch the surface of something you've never experienced. I can read tons of books on how to be an astronaut, I can take simulation but I will never actually experience going into space unless I go into space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Not same experiences = not able to FULLY comprehend the experiences. You can only scratch the surface of something you've never experienced. I can read tons of books on how to be an astronaut, I can take simulation but I will never actually experience going into space unless I go into space. I think I said that I agreed. Of course you will never understand how it is to face anti-semitism etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Of course it's always different in each country. But even me and my family been under discrimination our whole lives So I know a little about how it is to be under racism. No one said you, or anyone else, didn't understand racism, just that there are unique circumstances surrounding discrimination in different countries and in different parts of the world. It's not a one size fits all situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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