Warholian 6,880 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 What a dangerous ideology. Elect wishy-washy candidates with large appeal but will lead this country into the ground just like our current president?Sounds pretty fool proof to me! (Seriously though, this is why I sometimes think we should let everybody vote. God damn...)You do notice that's what we've been doing for the past 250 years, right? How do you suppose we'll elect a candidate that doesn't have a wide appeal? The American political system is faltered, and, thanks to the way it's set up, this is the way it has to be. I don't agree with it at all, but as long as the US allows the entire country to vote in general elections, candidates have to appeal to a wide audience, and not just far left youth on Tumblr and Twitter, even though they may be the best for the country. Kevin Parker, Mac Demarco, Mark Ronson, and a stoned Lady Gaga. Need I say more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Its not just that. There have been 43 male presidents and ZERO female. There also been 43 Christian presidents and ZERO Non-Christians. With Sanders that would change too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,844 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Its not just that. There have been 43 male presidents and ZERO female. yes but in the past ppl didnt want females and far fewer of them run too though i think women shoukd be taken just as seriously, the past has nothing to do with now... U cant pay attention to gender when deciding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barcodemonster 3,525 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 "I'm not sure women are worth 500M"basically scan my barcode Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Bernie Sanders is not a normal candidate. He's a socialist. If he's running there will be a massive amount of centre left voters that will instantly turn Republican. I'm talking about normal candidates that abide to their entire party's voters. Statistically, Republicans need a miracle to get the White House in 2016, and Bernie Sanders would be that miracle. That's what I'm thinking. I'll be interested to see what Nate Silver says about all this along the way, as it has already changed significantly in the last couple of months. I'm voting for the Democratic nominee, no matter who they are, as there is too much at stake. I am really more of an Independant, but the Republicans have become too like minded, tow the company line, types. The differences used to be more about the economy or government involvement instead of legislating morality and religious beliefs. I would love for some Republican to be moderate and see how the party, and voters in general, responded to them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Why have faith in the unlikely when you can have assurance in the certainty? It's statistically impossible for Sanders to win an election. Running as a third party candidate, sure, he could get maybe a good 10%, but that would again take away far left votes for the democratic party, allowing for Republicans to get in, just as if Trump runs as a third party candidate (which he will) far right votes will be taken away from Republicans and Clinton will win the presidency. And far left youth are not the biggest voting demographic in the United States. Parties must choose candidates that can win elections, not ones that are perfect to the largest minority of the party. That's how you get Sarah Palin or Donald Trump. Maybe the majority of the Republican Party wants Trump as their candidate but it is 100% impossible for him to win the presidency. A trump presidential candidacy is the death of the republican party's run for the White House. It's the same with Bernie Sanders. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Bernie against Clinton, but Bernie is a free and fast ticket to a Republican win that would otherwise be unlikely. This a million times. I like Bernie Sanders more than any other candidate but let's be real, he is not going to win and every vote that goes to him is a vote for Trump. Hillary and Trump are the only candidates who can win the election. I may have a different point of view on politics since I grew up in another country but people seem to forget that politics are not always fair. As a voter you have to do your research and a--lyze the situation. Everyone's vote is important. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiphEret 1,320 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I puked a bit in my mouth when I heard the interviewer and what he thinks of planned parenthood... Sur le sable sur la neige, Sur les images dorées,Sur le front de mes amis, J’écris ton nom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I mean you're right, but at the same time adding a woman into the White House would change so many political and social dynamics. Women have came so far these last 4 or 5 decades. Let's keep the progress moving. Hillary Clinton isn't a woman, she's a political machine forged in the pits of the Democratic National Convention "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Agree 100%. I can see right through her. She comes off as fake. Sadly people will go in with her being a woman and being "progressive!" and will run to vote. Similar to 2008 when people rushed to vote and make racial history. let's not act as if Obama wasn't a better candidate though Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 That's called politics, and it's not fair, just, good, or a cakewalk. Clinton, no matter what you or Fox News likes to say, is incredibly accomplished and has a massive understanding of Foreign Policy as well as the handling of the presidency. I don't agree with everything she says, far from it, but she is the best possible candidate for the presidency that can win the election, that's undeniable. Her policies would be revolutionary for the United States as well. Voting rights to all American citizens at 18? That's unheard of. As well as continuation of Barack Obama's work, allowing it to flourish into applications for the American people unlike Republican candidates that would fight for it to be repealed. Hilary Clinton may be full of problems, but she's the best out of a pile of horribleness. If you think choosing the president is as simple as "oh, he's the most forward thinking and progressive. Let's prop him up for our party and have him run against whatever the Republicans throw at us" then you're the one that has a serious misunderstanding and limited view of the American political process. God help us all. What a classic Democrat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warholian 6,880 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 God help us all. What a classic Democrat. A response that doesn't even address the statement. Thanks for that. Well so long. Kevin Parker, Mac Demarco, Mark Ronson, and a stoned Lady Gaga. Need I say more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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