andy232000 11,254 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 1989 says its mediocre you do realize that 1989 sales are thanks to taylor obligating everyone to pay for her album. if everybody did that all albums would be selling 8 million or more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 cant wait til she out-grosses Gaga just to see the meltdowns Not really. I'd like to see Katy have a successful Jazz tour. I'm glad to see Katy doing well. I hope it continues. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,774 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 How successful was the artRAVE in this current climate? Do you think Gaga's future tours will see the success of TBTWB? I know Gaga's a touring force, I am just curious if she'll maintain it like U2 and Madonna in decades to come. I thought I'd ask you since you said you're knowledgable about tours.I'm not pretending that I'm an expert or anything, just that I've educated myself. But yes, in the current climate, I'd say artRave was "successful," especially for a pop tour by a female. The amount of high-selling pop shows in 2014 were kinda thin on the ground. Apart from Justin Timberlake, 1D and the and the second half of Bruno Mars's tour, pop tours just weren't selling well. Despite all the success Miley got recently (which ousted ARTPOP's success) and having the same amount of dates as artRave as well as the same sized venues, she made $21 million less with her tour, which I think is quite telling of how Gaga's selling power is underestimated. As for her future tours, I think she could get back to her old level, though if she can beat the MB's gross is debatable. With the right music that the public reacts well to, promotion and positive PR, she could definitely pull out another tour as successful as BTWB again, though. I'm 100% positive that the next tour will gross at least $100 million. If artRave could make $83 million despite a lack of massive hits, 2.5 million worldwide sales, lack of promo and good PR, then imagine what she can do with a proper team behind her to give her a decent era? Even if the worst happens and the album isn't successful, it could easily outgross artRave as all her Asian and Latin American fans will be missing her as she basically didn't tour these regions and Asians especially will pay big bucks for her shows. Not to mention countries/cites that she left out in Europe like Finland, Madrid and the rest of France outwith Paris and basically the whole of middle America and of course, New Zealand. I think that's why the tour was so short and left out some really obvious places - if she makes certain areas miss her, she'll sell out like crazy in these regions next time, probably with demand for second, maybe even third dates. That's what I had to keep reminding myself when the tour failed to hit the 100 million mark. It'll all be worth it with the next tour, trust me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 you do realize that 1989 sales are thanks to taylor obligating everyone to pay for her album. if everybody did that all albums would be selling 8 million or more. There are many artists who have kept their albums off of Spotify and most of them didn't manage to sell 8 million albums. Also, all of Taylor's albums have sold five million or more, a feat that very few artists have managed to accomplish in the last decade. Keep making excuses, but the fact is that Taylor is a huge album seller and has been for all Five of her albums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock 20,290 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 you do realize that 1989 sales are thanks to taylor obligating everyone to pay for her album. if everybody did that all albums would be selling 8 million or more. Nnnn you say that as if people buying a singers music is a bad thing The only thing Taylor did was take it off Spotify. A lot of artists do not have their music on Spotify and they do not pull those numbers so she must be doing something right. Maybe if other peeps want to try to pull her numbers or come close, they should take a page from her book because it's obviously working. Also, Taylor has been pulling numbers like 5/6M or something consistently with every release since Fearless (and her debut maybe but I can't remember). 1989 is bigger because it's pop and has a larger audience than country so stay uneducated and stop with your BS excuses who will love me when the night is over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kulture Kiari 3,433 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Wow! I am actually amazed at Katherine, considering her tour has aired on tv already, and people are still buying tickets! You go Katherine!(No shade intended. I thought that once concerts aired on tv, people no longer would go to them. I thought that was the reason Taylor canceled her stream tbh.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEWRJEWR 5,663 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Nnnn you say that as if people buying a singers music is a bad thing The only thing Taylor did was take it off Spotify. A lot of artists do not have their music on Spotify and they do not pull those numbers so she must be doing something right. Maybe if other peeps want to try to pull her numbers or come close, they should take a page from her book because it's obviously working. Also, Taylor has been pulling numbers like 5/6M or something consistently with every release since Fearless (and her debut maybe but I can't remember). 1989 is bigger because it's pop and has a larger audience than country so stay uneducated and stop with your BS excuses taylor is the only mainstream artist that doesnt even have 1 song on spotify. Fear, she's the mother of violence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock 20,290 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 taylor is the only mainstream artist that doesnt even have 1 song on spotify. Yeah and? Her music was on Spotify when Red came out and she still pulled amazing numbers who will love me when the night is over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 How successful was the artRAVE in this current climate? Do you think Gaga's future tours will see the success of TBTWB? I know Gaga's a touring force, I am just curious if she'll maintain it like U2 and Madonna in decades to come. I thought I'd ask you since you said you're knowledgable about tours.ArtRave could not be extended even if she wanted it to. It ended in Nov 2014 well into her Cheek to Cheek era. As a matter of fact C2C was probably never meant to be as successful as it was. It was probably meant to be a fun side project that turned into a main project with its success. ArtRave ran into Nov 2014 and the first tour dates for C2C were in Dec 2014 then 2015 to July 2015. The Truth is Lady Gaga has only taken a month and a half off from touring since the beginning of artRave. If you look up Billboards Top 25 Tours end of year Boxscore. Lady Gaga has been consistently on that list since 2010. Will she ever have another $200+ gross? I'm not so sure. She is still complaining about her hip which probably means another tour that lasts more than 80 to 100 shows is probably not going to happen anytime soon. But i am pretty sure she will be on the Top 25 tours consistently for years to come. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEWRJEWR 5,663 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Yeah and? Her music was on Spotify when Red came out and she still pulled amazing numbers(in the us) Fear, she's the mother of violence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock 20,290 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (in the us)I love when haters get clocked and pull the locAL!!!!!1 receipt in response. Try not to use a stale clapback next time who will love me when the night is over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Nnnn you say that as if people buying a singers music is a bad thing The only thing Taylor did was take it off Spotify. A lot of artists do not have their music on Spotify and they do not pull those numbers so she must be doing something right. Maybe if other peeps want to try to pull her numbers or come close, they should take a page from her book because it's obviously working. Also, Taylor has been pulling numbers like 5/6M or something consistently with every release since Fearless (and her debut maybe but I can't remember). 1989 is bigger because it's pop and has a larger audience than country so stay uneducated and stop with your BS excuses Agree! Saying an artist is obligating people to buy her album is a pretty ridiculous statement. She is actually losing sales from Spotify because they pay the artist per steam. About 100 Streams of her entire album generates as much income as a traditional album sale. In the US we still dived album sales from streams but in other countries both are counted as the same. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEWRJEWR 5,663 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I love when haters get clocked and pull the locAL!!!!!1 receipt in response. Try not to use a stale clapback next timeits true tho. 98% of Red's sales are from the US. Fear, she's the mother of violence Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (in the us)So? Five to six million albums is still huge, no matter where those albums were sold. With 1989, over 2 million of the total sales have come from outside the U.S., which is still more than 99 per cent of artists manage to sell overall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock 20,290 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 its true tho. 98% of Red's sales are from the US. Okay and? That doesn't have anything to do with the discussion. You just ran out of things to say who will love me when the night is over Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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