Maybe ARTPOP deserved its "underperformance"

[Yanko 9,860]

"The Fame Monster and Born This Way are superior albums"

i agree

but i  still enjoy 8 songs from it and i think it would have had success with better promo 

but yeah it's a mediocre album still better than most of current pop albums but it doesnt feel like a gaga album 

bad lyrics messy production lazy choruses and a lot of fillers 

[Whispering 18,865]

​"I just laughed out loud" 

 

Applause had great promotion, even if it was rush-released : radio interviews everywhere, GMA performance, GMA music video premiere, VMAs, the muppets and so on. ARTPOP had great promotion too (not as much as BTW but stil, it was okay imo) and wasnt the cover revealed in TIMES SQUARE. I mean that was a great promo. DWUW still got some great performances it could not even go top 10 on itunes after the AMAs, the Beats commercial and The Voice...

Management and promotion isn't everything, the music itself has a big role in success.

What happened to "it's an OPINION thread"? lol

The first two singles did receive good promotion. If that promotion had continued (and the Beats commercial would have stayed in the US, instead of being pulled after one week), the album would have continued to sell past January...despite the massive media backlash and the entry into the era coming off of BTW. 

The era still ended up with an album that was in the top 10 on the worldwide chart and a tour that placed it in the top 10, despite all the struggles, management issues, and only having two hits from the album. Gaga's "underperformance" was still close to, equal to or better than the majority of pop acts released that year and as we are seeing with the majority of "hot pop girls" right now. 

An artist has to continue to release good radio singles and have good management and promotion to continue to get album sales, and this era failed on that front. That doesn't mean that the potential wasn't there, as evidenced by the first few months of the era. 

[TimisaMonster 31,073]

ARTPOP was obviously being handed in MANY times...we remember Gaga saying she "finished" with it and then a couple days later saying it again...poor thing was frustrated and they made her dilute her original vision for a more "commercial" sounding album...

Aura demo vs album version is a perfect example of this...

 

Plus, the single choices did affect the flow and appeal of the album... Applause was safe and still successful, but the controversy and lack of video for DWUW negatively impacted the GP appeal... Plus it took too long for a POTENTIALLY released video that never came. GUY was a cool song...great video, but no promo and radio and the GP were over ARTPOP by that time. 

 

I really feel Gaga would've done well with Venus as the original second single... She obviously wanted to give it a proper era and video...she made THREE single covers for it!!! The GP wouldn't have found any controversy from the song and the promo and video would've set up a nice possibility for either Aura (Telephone continuation) or GUY to do well

 

She then went on to tour and completely abandoned the album and any other promo...label haulted singles and the era died on a sour note of incompletion 

[MonsterOfSpain 8,318]

 

[Ferrer Zorola 3,966]

I LOVE ARTPOP and this thread made me want to listen to it again
AURA > AURA DEMO 

[shaneybaby 450]

i don't think people understand that ARTPOP was not about commercial success. Its about putting ART before the POP commercial sell out. Thats the entire essence of the album. 

[Ferrer Zorola 3,966]

"ARTPOP sounds dated"
born this way could have been released in the 80s and no one would have noticed it 

[Benji 20,113]

I agree 1000%

I love ARTPOP but I've been saying this since it's release, it's just not as good as her previous albums. Is Gaga, herself to blame? Not completely as it's obvious she had other intentions with the album that were quashed due to other things going on.

ARTPOP, in it's current form is basically Gaga's take on 'Bangerz' and that's fine. We just need to cut the bullsh*t about it being something bigger than it was.

[George 363]

Today I was going to uni with my music on shuffle, and after a long time without PopGa in my life, Sexxx Dreams (the album version) came. And even when swinefest version was better, the moment the heavy instrumental of the chorus started, I thought to myself "this is f***ing huge, its better than most of the things radio is playing right now".

Then when I got home, I listened to it completely and loved it. Gaga's standard is pretty high if we think AP is a low. That in terms of music: management is a whole different thing.

[eifulien 2,954]

It's still my favourite Gaga album to date, and the one that made me a stan. Period.

ARTPOP is quite interesting to explore as a concept and is so far the only album that made me question what the artist's vision is. Excluding all the concepts and explanations, though, we still have a perfectly fine party album and at the time that's what I needed badly. I remember when I heard Aura, Swine, Sexxx Dreams from iTunes Festival I was sooo relieved it wasn't similar to Born This Way and it was more like The Fame - a little bit vain or superficial on the outside but still great musically. In all honesty, as much as I love BTW, it is an overwhelming and exhausting album to listen to. 

But since she's moved on from ARTPOP and no Act II, etc. I hope we will get sth more substantial in terms of lyrics for next solo release. I don't mind (I f*cking love) ARTPOP's lyrics but I want her to show her prowess in writing. I hope the material will be really meaningful and catchy at the same time. After her rise with CTC she must deliver. 

[OBEY 57,109]

What happened to "it's an OPINION thread"? lol

The first two singles did receive good promotion. If that promotion had continued (and the Beats commercial would have stayed in the US, instead of being pulled after one week), the album would have continued to sell past January...despite the massive media backlash and the entry into the era coming off of BTW. 

The era still ended up with an album that was in the top 10 on the worldwide chart and a tour that placed it in the top 10, despite all the struggles, management issues, and only having two hits from the album. Gaga's "underperformance" was still close to, equal to or better than the majority of pop acts released that year and as we are seeing with the majority of "hot pop girls" right now. 

An artist has to continue to release good radio singles and have good management and promotion to continue to get album sales, and this era failed on that front. That doesn't mean that the potential wasn't there, as evidenced by the first few months of the era. 

​My opinion is that management isn't everything, the music itself, since it is the product that is sold, has a part in it. I wrote "i just laughed out loud" because i quoted the person above me who wrote this.

I know promotion is important, but if the product that is promoted isn't AMAZING, there is a good chance it won't be affective at 100%.

As i said about ARTPOP : "It is a good album, superior than a lot of other current popstar album." And when i'm talking about underperformance, it's compared to her previous albums, hence The Fame, The Fame Monster and Born This Way.

[Vernier 3,786]

Get dat hit thread  

[Dorothy Gale 7,575]

I disagree. ARTPOP deserved more success, it's better than 90% of the schlock on the radio.

[OBEY 57,109]

 at some people still playing the management card. Even you promote the hell out of an album, if the music is bad- people will not buy it.

​That's exactly what i think. Some songs are #4 on pop radio, yet they're in the 40s on itunes  Performances sometimes give a small boosts to songs, then after 1 day it's like nothing happened,

If promotion equals guaranteed success like some people since to think, then why did DWUW (example, i love the song and i admit it did good without a video) didn't at least went top 10 on itunes after being performed on The Voice and the AMAs? 

[Tommy Monster 846]

Well, for me, when I listen to BTW, ARTPOP sounds like a saviour of Gaga´s music sent from heaven 

It didn´t deserve to be abandoned like that, half of the album are the best songs she´s ever made  

Plus, the succes of an album always, guys ALWAYS depends on the album BEFORE, so it´s really BTW that you should all hate, that one got the GP dissapointed with her and then they didn´t buy ARTPOP, think about it, after TFM people would literally buy anything from her...