How To Bootleg Shows

[ChicaSkas 22,421]

I recently wrote a tome on how to bootleg something, and someone just told me it should be it's own thread.

So it is now it's own thread.

Enjoy!

 

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it's been screening around the US and even in Australia (My city, tomorrow night) 

All recordings (like 3 :toofunny:) we're recorded on phones and turned out sounding muffled 

im hopefully taking a proper recorder tomorrow to get a clear recording and possibly the BEST recording we will ever have until the song is finally released"  

 

Here are my stream of consciousness suggestions on this venture:

​1. The movie could be loud. 

When you record the end credits, try it on a high sensitivity first. If you can go to a second show, or just sit in the theater until the credits roll AGAIN on the next showing, try to record it on a lower sensitivity as well. This way, when you get home, you can choose which recording sounds best. Alternately, you can try sitting in different sections (I would suggest back or middle to back for best acoustics) to see if you get a better recording.

2. People are complete problems.  

The more there are, the worse your recording will be, because people emit nothing but sounds, intentionally or not. They will rustle candy wrappers, chomp on noisy popcorn with mouths wide open, and of course never silence their damn ringtones. They are also usually inconsiderate during shows, and will whoop, holler, yell or just chat annoyingly to those next to them at any time and for no reason. I hate these people. With a passion. :) 

So, your ideal strategy would be to attend a viewing with the fewest number of these creatures possible. Try going to the first show of the day, or perhaps the last. There should be fewer people at these airings.

When all else fails, be prepared to bribe, or beg, or both. I've had to do all of that, and it's mostly paid off except for the drunken or high ones, who cannot be reasoned with... Carry a spare $5.00 bill or two for truly idiotic ones. 

Best bet: try to record in an empty theater!

3. Be careful. This is a grey area of life.

Sadly, recording a show is technically an illegal practice, because it is assumed by most managements that you are copying said show for monetary gain. In our case, we are copying said show's music for purely educational discussion and debate -- which is technically allowable under the Fair Use Act of 1976. 

see: fair use act: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Act_of_1976 

Nowadays, in this day and age, we are living in a world where people are constantly connected to smart phones and other gadgetry, and they all feel obsessively compelled to share and overshare all the doings of their lives on it. This perversely works in our favor to some extent -- the fact that every yahoo and his brother are pointing devices and camera phones and taking selfies at shows means that the material is being shared completely unstoppably over all kinds of outlets. This is but another extension of said outlet. 

Now, if you are caught recording this music: stay calm. In the States, management/security/employees CANNOT take your recorder, they CANNOT destroy your recording, and they CANNOT ask you to remove your SD card. They CAN ask you to return the item to your car, and can potentially refuse you reentry to the show. (This has it's workarounds, though.) You can say you are terribly sorry, you had no idea this wasn't allowed, and of course agree to return it to your car. The more polite you are, the more likely they are to take it easy on you and allow you back in. Then, try again tomorrow or until you are successful! 

 

4. Be Honest. 

If caught, tell the truth wherever humanly possible. Say, "yes, this is a recording device, I work for a Gaga fansite, and we are a--lyzing and studying this song for debate and discussion, and it's allowed under the Fair Use Act of 1976." Or say you are doing this for school , cite the Act, and explain you are doing this as a journalistic venture. Stay nice and polite and understanding of their concerns, and you should be fine. 

 

5. Have fun!

I've recorded every concert I've been to since 2012. It's a great way to document history and to preserve personal memories of events as they unfolded. Good luck tomorrow with recording Till It Happens To You!  I'm sure you will do wonderfully. If you need advice, I hope this tome recited from my memory helps.

 

--C.

 

PS:

Best advice I forgot to give earlier: KNOW Your Device. 

Test record at home to make sure you know how to use the buttons, ESPECIALLY when you are in the dark. You dont want to think you were recording and have the horrifying knowledge that you actually weren't the whole time. Been there, done that, got the Tshirt. 

You might also make homemade blackout stickers (use PostIts if you can) to black out the lights that may appear on your recorder that indicate you actually ARE recording. You want to know you are, but you don't want your cozy seatmate next door to you by 5 inches to know.

[RainingOnMe 7,252]

Queen of dodging legalities

 

[Curunir 7,510]

i howled at the people part 

this was a nice read, good luck to the person who's gonna record TIHTY, hope we get even better recordings 

[antpats2 4,200]

i howled at the people part 

this was a nice read, good luck to the person who's gonna record TIHTY, hope we get even better recordings 

​thats my post quoted  

[Curunir 7,510]

​thats my post quoted  

​so how did it go? 

[antpats2 4,200]

​so how did it go? 

​IT'S TOMORROW HAHA  

[Curunir 7,510]

​IT'S TOMORROW HAHA  

​

[RAMROD 106,206]

excellent 

 

My suggestion is to put your device in the pocket

where it is less likely to move around.

Say your shirt or jacket front pocket.

Make sure the fabrics is not too thick as well, say cotton,

and positioned the phone upward

(usually phones mic are located on the bottom, that very tiny dot next to the charging port)

otherwise it will produce muffled sounds.

iPhone 6 mic located next to that earphone jack

Samsung mic

Besides the tin fabric of your pocket will act as sound filter for the noise from the people.

And if your phone always emit notification lights when it is recording,

turn it off beforehand from phone settings.

 

 

 

[antpats2 4,200]

I recently wrote a tome on how to bootleg something, and someone just told me it should be it's own thread.

So it is now it's own thread.

Enjoy!

 

 

Here are my stream of consciousness suggestions on this venture:

​1. The movie could be loud. 

When you record the end credits, try it on a high sensitivity first. If you can go to a second show, or just sit in the theater until the credits roll AGAIN on the next showing, try to record it on a lower sensitivity as well. This way, when you get home, you can choose which recording sounds best. Alternately, you can try sitting in different sections (I would suggest back or middle to back for best acoustics) to see if you get a better recording.

2. People are complete problems.  

The more there are, the worse your recording will be, because people emit nothing but sounds, intentionally or not. They will rustle candy wrappers, chomp on noisy popcorn with mouths wide open, and of course never silence their damn ringtones. They are also usually inconsiderate during shows, and will whoop, holler, yell or just chat annoyingly to those next to them at any time and for no reason. I hate these people. With a passion. :) 

So, your ideal strategy would be to attend a viewing with the fewest number of these creatures possible. Try going to the first show of the day, or perhaps the last. There should be fewer people at these airings.

When all else fails, be prepared to bribe, or beg, or both. I've had to do all of that, and it's mostly paid off except for the drunken or high ones, who cannot be reasoned with... Carry a spare $5.00 bill or two for truly idiotic ones. 

Best bet: try to record in an empty theater!

3. Be careful. This is a grey area of life.

Sadly, recording a show is technically an illegal practice, because it is assumed by most managements that you are copying said show for monetary gain. In our case, we are copying said show's music for purely educational discussion and debate -- which is technically allowable under the Fair Use Act of 1976. 

see: fair use act: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Act_of_1976 

Nowadays, in this day and age, we are living in a world where people are constantly connected to smart phones and other gadgetry, and they all feel obsessively compelled to share and overshare all the doings of their lives on it. This perversely works in our favor to some extent -- the fact that every yahoo and his brother are pointing devices and camera phones and taking selfies at shows means that the material is being shared completely unstoppably over all kinds of outlets. This is but another extension of said outlet. 

Now, if you are caught recording this music: stay calm. In the States, management/security/employees CANNOT take your recorder, they CANNOT destroy your recording, and they CANNOT ask you to remove your SD card. They CAN ask you to return the item to your car, and can potentially refuse you reentry to the show. (This has it's workarounds, though.) You can say you are terribly sorry, you had no idea this wasn't allowed, and of course agree to return it to your car. The more polite you are, the more likely they are to take it easy on you and allow you back in. Then, try again tomorrow or until you are successful! 

 

4. Be Honest. 

If caught, tell the truth wherever humanly possible. Say, "yes, this is a recording device, I work for a Gaga fansite, and we are a--lyzing and studying this song for debate and discussion, and it's allowed under the Fair Use Act of 1976." Or say you are doing this for school , cite the Act, and explain you are doing this as a journalistic venture. Stay nice and polite and understanding of their concerns, and you should be fine. 

 

5. Have fun!

I've recorded every concert I've been to since 2012. It's a great way to document history and to preserve personal memories of events as they unfolded. Good luck tomorrow with recording Till It Happens To You!  I'm sure you will do wonderfully. If you need advice, I hope this tome recited from my memory helps.

 

--C.

 

PS:

Best advice I forgot to give earlier: KNOW Your Device. 

Test record at home to make sure you know how to use the buttons, ESPECIALLY when you are in the dark. You dont want to think you were recording and have the horrifying knowledge that you actually weren't the whole time. Been there, done that, got the Tshirt. 

You might also make homemade blackout stickers (use PostIts if you can) to black out the lights that may appear on your recorder that indicate you actually ARE recording. You want to know you are, but you don't want your cozy seatmate next door to you by 5 inches to know.

​is there any specific things i should have running? I went out and bought an Olympus VN-731PC Sound Recorder and im slowly getting used to it. But the movie is in about 20 hours and i'd ike to know how you get your recordings so clear? Maybe im using the wrong settings bt ive tested it on my tv and on my own voice and it still sounds muffled. SOme settings are clearer than others etc and theres high and low recording levels, recording modes, low cut filter, VCVA and also recording scene options (like dictation, meeting, conference etc)   

[ChicaSkas 22,421]

Yikes. Complicated.... hmmm. Study the manual. I'm using Sony Linear PCM - M10.... I'll see if I can google the manual for you on yours...

[ChicaSkas 22,421]

​is there any specific things i should have running? I went out and bought an Olympus VN-731PC Sound Recorder and im slowly getting used to it. But the movie is in about 20 hours and i'd ike to know how you get your recordings so clear? Maybe im using the wrong settings bt ive tested it on my tv and on my own voice and it still sounds muffled. SOme settings are clearer than others etc and theres high and low recording levels, recording modes, low cut filter, VCVA and also recording scene options (like dictation, meeting, conference etc)   

​Also, I hold mine in my lap or in my hands wherever possible, to keep the mics clear of material against them that can eff up the sound. if you absolutely have to stick it in your pocket while recording, make sure the mics stick out so they can still capture sound without obstacles.

Also what I meant earlier by black out was, use a black marker on the other side of a post it's adhesive backing. Cut out the shape you need for the buttons, and place (rub in gently) over the buttons or lights that light up. I used a tiny cloth bag to hide the main screen of mine, because the screen will stay lit for about 10 seconds after you power it on. 

[ChicaSkas 22,421]

This is your manual... lemme peruse it for a few... i might be able to help. http://cdn.cnetcontent.com/06/25/062565e5-42a4-45f4-a475-7b06976b87d6.pdf

[MonsterOfSpain 8,281]

Queen of Bootlegs 

[ChicaSkas 22,421]

You don't want VCVA. That's voice activated recording, if there's a pause in the song the recorder will stop!

[U-GO-BOY 1,607]

and don't forget to share your recordings even if you think it sounds like ****. there might still be a chance to remaster/clean it :)