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Turkey says "no" to Islamic dictatorship


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Turkey’s president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, suffered his most significant electoral defeat in more than a decade on Sunday when his ruling Justice and Development, or AK, party appeared on course to lose its parliamentary majority – and leaving it in search of a coalition partner in order to form a government.

Based on 99% of all votes counted, the AKP secured 41% of the vote, followed by the Republican People’s party (CHP) at 25%, the Nationalist Movement party (MHP) on 16.5% and the pro-Kurdish leftist Peoples’ Democratic party (HDP) fourth at a surprise 12.5%.

Erdoğan, Turkey’s most popular modern leader but also its most divisive, had hoped for a crushing victory for the AKP, to allow it to change the constitution and create a more powerful presidency. Its failure to win an overall majority marks an end to 12 years of uninterrupted, stable single-party rule since it first took power in 2002.

The leftist HDP, the surprise star of this year’s parliament elections, passed Turkey’s unusually high election threshold of 10%.

The results suggest voters have rejected the ruling party’s attempt to remake the constitution and give more power to Erdoğan, for which it would have needed a two-thirds majority in parliament – or 367 seats. Instead, the AKP appears to have won 258 seats – falling short of the 276 seats required to form a majority government. 

The party’s projected share of the vote, at around 41%, is below the 49% it received in the parliamentary elections in 2011.

 

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/07/turkey-election-preliminary-results-erdogan-akp-party

 

40% looks like a lot, but the world's biggest secular muslim country Turkey just took the last exit and said "no" to becoming an Islamic dictatorship.:usrs:

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monsterdreams

Sounds positive 

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TiphEret

Wow it's impressive the score of the Kurdish party!

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calmar

Good move, Turkey. I'm way too close to you right now to want to have that type of development going on.

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Unknown A

Only thing i'm glad for this election is there are WAAY more LGBTQ supporter parliamentarians with HDP. And there are less AKP parliamentarians which is really good. It was picking the least bad party or voting against AKP just to make them weaker which is so sad. There is no one to vote for actually. I only care about LGBTIQ rights to be honest. It's a long ride. We will see what happens... 

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I'm happy for them :applause:

It's sad how nationalist so many Turks are, though. Even in my country many desintegrated nationalist conservative Turks, and a majority of second and third generation students with Turkish heritage want to move to Turkey.. It's just a border!

But I'm glad that there's more progressive parties now... they should really lower the threshold from 10% to 1% or something. It's way too high like that.

It's even possible for a coalition without Erdogan to happen, right? :excited2: 

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ceminay

I'm happy for them :applause:

It's sad how nationalist so many Turks are, though. Even in my country many desintegrated nationalist conservative Turks, and a majority of second and third generation students with Turkish heritage want to move to Turkey.. It's just a border!

But I'm glad that there's more progressive parties now... they should really lower the threshold from 10% to 1% or something. It's way too high like that.

It's even possible for a coalition without Erdogan to happen, right? :excited2: 

​Yeah many Turks living in Europe are pretty conservative, they always support the AKP. The threshold has to go and I hope the first thing they do is get rid of it, and yes there is a chance for a coalition but who will do it no one knows yet. :)

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I'm happy for them :applause:

It's sad how nationalist so many Turks are, though. Even in my country many desintegrated nationalist conservative Turks, and a majority of second and third generation students with Turkish heritage want to move to Turkey.. It's just a border!

But I'm glad that there's more progressive parties now... they should really lower the threshold from 10% to 1% or something. It's way too high like that.

It's even possible for a coalition without Erdogan to happen, right? :excited2: 

​Unfortunately no, Erdogan will stay for couple years... He is the president; head of the political administration/government (coalition in this case) is prime minister... A coalition without AKP (conservatives) is possible... But Erdogan will stay there for couple more years... He resigned from AKP theoretically which he had to, because president is not allowed to be involved with any parties in Turkey during his duty. But he was still the chair of AKP practically since he did election demos for AKP. 

But there is possibility that coalition will send Erdogan to supreme court for corruption ... I hope it will happen, I want to see Erdogan suffering for everything he did. :usrs:

By the way, turks who immigrated to europe couple decades ago were unqualified workers; so I can say that turks in germany, netherlands, austria, france etc are very bad when it comes to manners, political conscience since these families mostly do not have an education culture... It is not surprising to hear that they have integration problems, they also have bad reputation in Turkey for their manners. :sweat:

HDP's voters' demographic is unbelievably unique... They got so many votes from intellectual elites of Istanbul thanks to their liberal approach to social issues. But at the same time their voters from south eastern turkey is the least educated group among 4 biggest parties according to Konda (a very respected statistics company).

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​Unfortunately no, Erdogan will stay for couple years... He is the president; head of the political administration/government (coalition in this case) is prime minister... A coalition without AKP (conservatives) is possible... But Erdogan will stay there for couple more years... He resigned from AKP theoretically which he had to, because president is not allowed to be involved with any parties in Turkey during his duty. But he was still the chair of AKP practically since he did election demos for AKP. 

But there is possibility that coalition will send Erdogan to supreme court for corruption ... I hope it will happen, I want to see Erdogan suffering for everything he did. :usrs:

By the way, turks who immigrated to europe couple decades ago were unqualified workers; so I can say that turks in germany, netherlands, austria, france etc are very bad when it comes to manners, political conscience since these families mostly do not have an education culture... It is not surprising to hear that they have integration problems, they also have bad reputation in Turkey for their manners. :sweat:

HDP's voters' demographic is unbelievably unique... They got so many votes from intellectual elites of Istanbul thanks to their liberal approach to social issues. But at the same time their voters from south eastern turkey is the least educated group among 4 biggest parties according to Konda (a very respected statistics company).

HDP is not so much a Kurdish party in my opinion, I see it as a Turkish partner for The Greens. I love how they are so liberal to LGBT rights and are anti-nationalistic.

Some Turks here are high-educated, most stay with low education which sparks a bit of nationalism amongst the Dutch (because immigrants have a higher percentage unemployed and lower-educated).

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ceminay

HDP is not so much a Kurdish party in my opinion, I see it as a Turkish partner for The Greens. I love how they are so liberal to LGBT rights and are anti-nationalistic.

Some Turks here are high-educated, most stay with low education which sparks a bit of nationalism amongst the Dutch (because immigrants have a higher percentage unemployed and lower-educated).

​HDP used to be pretty nationalistic, they changed the past few years in a good way but still their priorities are Kurdish interest, 90% of their voters are Kurdish and they make most of their decisions with the PKK leader Abdullah Ocalan. They say they're LGBT friendly, but they put only 1 openly gay candidate in a city in western Turkey where it was certain he would not be elected as a deputy, but in the east where Kurds live and where HDP gets 80% of the vote, they mainly showed conservative candidates to get votes since Kurds are generally very conservative. So yes, they are not homophobic, but if they were really LGBT friendly they would show LGBT candidates in cities in the east where it would be certain they would be elected to parliament.

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