Ignored & Unreported: Muslim Cartoonists Make Fun of ISIS

[Didymus 34,380]

Dear lord in heaven.

[PartySick 172,427]

​They can talk with them, fire isn't stopped by putting more fire on it, it's stopped by water.

Discussion is the best thing we can do, we're not animals to fight each other.

​You can't talk with people like ISIS, that's the problem. It'd be great if diplomacy could be used, but in reality it's hardly ever an actual option. Humans are flawed, especially when they're fueled with the kind of hate and bitterness ISIS has and they have the means to hurt others for that.

 

The best we can do is try to protect their victims and devalue their message of hate.

[Fizzy 2,217]

Thanks Didy for sharing in midst of some people who obviously wouldn't 

[Didymus 34,380]

Actually it ìs possible to "talk" with ISIS but then you'd have to make compromises, and trust me, a compromise with ISIS wouldn't come cheap.

[The Child 18,997]

​You can't talk with people like ISIS, that's the problem. It'd be great if diplomacy could be used, but in reality it's hardly ever an actual option. Humans are flawed, especially when they're fueled with the kind of hate and bitterness ISIS has and they have the means to hurt others for that.

 

The best we can do is try to protect their victims and devalue their message of hate.

I agree that nowadays they have to do everything possible to protect their victims. It's just too bad those ISIS people are such dumb assholes.

[lego 44,165]

Thanks for posting this Didy.

 

Besides the cartoon arts, plenty of videos satirizing ISIS also have been produced. One of them, entitled “The Prince,” dishes out some edgy black humor: It depicts an ISIS “mock Muslim” fighter who secretly smokes cigarettes, drinks wine, flirts on his iPhone and jams to Arabic pop music as he sends off a suicide bomber to detonate himself elsewhere, at a safe distance from his own whereabouts.

 

 

 

[Cocaine Heart 4,768]

​That's interesting, do you mind sharing some of your thoughts about it?

​I don't agree with the representation of the first two. The backbone concept of them, being that extremists have stolen the true image of Islam from us. I'm of the opinion that what these groups are doing is "true islam". Majority of what they are doing are advocated by the Quran and The Hadith.

If you were to go through  the prophets teachings though several of the Surah's, the Hadith and to some extent the Sira, they are doing exactly what he says even down to things like the crucifixions. 

I hope this doesn't come of the wrong way, as if I'm a white christian american or something. 

[Serendipity 7,821]

True 

Not all Muslims are fickle-minded

Some of my friends are Muslim and they are very nice indeed

It's just extremist groups like Taliban and ISIS that give them a bad name in the world

[Didymus 34,380]

​I don't agree with the representation of the first two. The backbone concept of them, being that extremists have stolen the true image of Islam from us. I'm of the opinion that what these groups are doing is "true islam". Majority of what they are doing are advocated by the Quran and The Hadith.

If you were to go through the prophets teachings though several of the Surah's, the Hadith and to some extent the Sira, they are doing exactly what he says even down to things like the crucifixions. 

I hope this doesn't come of the wrong way, as if I'm a white christian american or something. 

​Hmm, ok, understood. Though there are also plenty of passages where Muhammad preaches very other things than violence. It's very puzzling to try to figure out when mercy and love are supposed to be stronger than violence, especially since times have also changed. The combination of both elements has always been controversial but what's specifically bothering about ISIS is that the non-violent parts are 100% absent in their philosophy.

Also, a strict literal interpretation is one way of treating the sources, but among most Muslims today, that's not the reading, just like it isn't for Christians (anymore). I get what you're saying (are you a Muslim or not, though?) but the idea that there is a true Islam is highly problematic in itself, just like it is with every religion. It just doesn't match with how they evolve throughout history. I think it's wiser to let the idea of a real Islam go. So in that way, I do agree with your first point, but not your second (your second being that there is an actual real Islamic interpretation).

Just for future reference however, ISIS is in fact more inspired by definite Islamic philosophies than simple objective readings of the writings you mentioned: in particular Salafi-Jihadism, Islamism and Wahhabism. These are very specific readings of the Quran etc. that most Muslims disagree with. So I don't see a reason to adopt them as representative of Islam at all, personally.

[Cocaine Heart 4,768]

​Hmm, ok, understood. Though there are also plenty of passages where Muhammad preaches very other things than violence. It's very puzzling to try to figure out when mercy and love are supposed to be stronger than violence, especially since times have also changed. The combination of both elements has always been controversial but what's specifically bothering about ISIS is that the non-violent parts are 100% absent in their philosophy.

Also, a strict literal interpretation is one way of treating the sources, but among most Muslims today, that's not the reading, just like it isn't for Christians (anymore). I get what you're saying (are you a Muslim or not, though?) but the idea that there is a true Islam is highly problematic in itself, just like it is with every religion. It just doesn't match with how they evolve throughout history. I think it's wiser to let the idea of a real Islam go. So in that way, I do agree with your first point, but not your second (your second being that there is an actual real Islamic interpretation).

Just for future reference however, ISIS is in fact more inspired by definite Islamic philosophies than simple objective readings of the writings you mentioned: in particular Salafi-Jihadism, Islamism and Wahhabism. These are very specific readings of the Quran etc. that most Muslims disagree with. So I don't see a reason to adopt them as representative of Islam at all, personally.

​True, prior to his time in Medina he spoke a lot above love and preached about many other things.

I'm not, family is though. This is what worried me a lot about these groups. It took centuries for the church to evolve to a more civilized state and that time is not something we can afford, especially when things such and nuclear and chemical weapons are at play. Ideally It would be much better if people would let the religion go.

True, the current leader of isis has a doctorate in Islamic studies. So he is picking as choosing from any different works to fit the narrative.