Jed 7,716 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Likely GOP presidential candidate Jeb Bush met controversy when it became public knowledge that he incorrectly marked himself as "latino" on a voters registration form in 2009. http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/jeb-bush-falsely-claimed-hispanic-heritage?cid=sm_fb_maddowI hope this means good news for Hilary.. I really hope she ends up president."A photocopy of the 2009 voter-registration form is online here. There’s no ambiguity in this story – in the field labeled “race/ethnicity,” the Florida Republican had a variety of choices. He identified himself as “Hispanic” and signed the document, affirming that all of the information on the form is true. It wasn’t; Jeb Bush is not Hispanic. As Daniel Strauss explained, “The former governor hails from the influential Bush political dynasty which, New York magazine noted, helped settle Plymouth Colony. Bush’s family has been described by Slate’s Jacob Weisberg in his book The Bush Tragedy as ‘New England WASP.’” Jeb Bush is the son of George H.W. Bush and Barbara Bush. He is no more Hispanic than his siblings, each of whom are white. I suppose it’s possible that Bush simply made a mistake when filling out the form, but as of this morning, that’s not yet the explanation offered by his spokesperson. Instead, Team Bush doesn’t seem to know what to say in response to questions, which isn’t a good sign. Jeb Bush did learn Spanish and his wife is Mexican, but, not to put too fine a point on this, that doesn’t actually change his “race/ethnicity.” Looking for a political parallel, it would be like New York City Mayor Bill Bill de Blasio identifying himself as African-American because his wife is black. It’s hard to say just how politically damaging this could be for the former governor, since we don’t yet know what Bush was thinking when he improperly filled out the form. That said, if the former governor intentionally tried to mislead people and/or tried to benefit personally from claiming a racial identity that is not his own, it would be yet another problem for a Republican candidate who’s struggled of late to find his footing. Postscript: Let’s not forget that in Republican circles, how candidates describe their ethnicity has been considered quite important in recent years. A few years ago, you’ll probably recall, GOP officials wereeager to attack Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) over her claims to Cherokee ancestry. It’s admittedly not an apples-to-apples comparison, but it’s likely to be difficult for Republicans to say Warren’s identification was of critical importance, but Jeb Bush’s identification is irrelevant." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I'm from Florida and I don't like Jeb Bush. However Hillary Clinton using and private email and destroying her server to cover up scandal is the epitome of corrupt political action. If you rather have someone like that as president then lying on a form most likely doesn't mean much to you. Ps: Your correct in bringing up Elizabeth warren who claimed to be of Cherokee descent to get scholarship money/ Tax money to go to school. I don't think Jebs voter registration is a fraudulent as that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 I'm from Florida and I don't like Jeb Bush. However Hillary Clinton using and private email and destroying her server to cover up scandal is the epitome of corrupt political action. If you rather have someone like that as president then lying on a form most likely doesn't mean much to you. TBH as long as a republican doesn't come back into the white house I don't mind. I want Hillary to be president so my daughter can grow up feeling like she can also be the most powerful person in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,058 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I am all for Republican that are fair and game, you know, but that is hard to find these days. In the end, all politicians are fxcked up. We just have to choose the lesser of two evils, from either party. There is no use for rooting for just one party. On topic, looks like he embarassed to bear Bush surname or something. (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 I am all for Republican that are fair and game, you know, but that is hard to find these days. In the end, all politicians are fxcked up. We just have to choose the lesser of two evils, from either party. There is no use for rooting for just one party. On topic, looks like he embarassed to bear Bush surname or something. exactly. If there was a republican who really spoke to me I would have no problem voting for them. But as of late they have been not alligned with my social political views. Fiscally, sure, but not social. I'm pro-choice, queer, and very liberal in that sense so the republicans will have to work hard to get me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 TBH as long as a republican doesn't come back into the white house I don't mind. I want Hillary to be president so my daughter can grow up feeling like she can also be the most powerful person in the world. I don't think you really follow politics cause you wouldn't say such stupid things if you had. Sorry but there are better people for your daughter to look up to then Hillary Clinton. Your right about Clinton wanting power at least. She's a power hungry individual who will lie, cheat and scam the American people to get to it. She's not any better then others when it comes to this but there are things she has done in recent months that are atrocious. You should inform yourself and look it up instead of glorifying her and choosing role models for your daughter. It would be a shame if she had 1% of the character Clinton has.\ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 I don't think you really follow politics cause you wouldn't say such stupid things if you had. Sorry but there are better people for your daughter to look up to then Hillary Clinton. Your right about Clinton wanting power at least. She's a power hungry individual who will lie, cheat and scam the American people to get to it. She's not any better then others when it comes to this but there are things she has done in recent months that are atrocious. You should inform yourself and look it up instead of glorifying her and choosing role models for your daughter. It would be a shame if she had 1% of the character Clinton has.\ I just meant a woman in general who is a head of state. In america that hasn't happened yet and I hope that it does soon. If not Hilary then someone. I want my daughter to be born into a country where we have already had a female president. A lot of people who follow Politics also want Hilary to win so I don't think you should talk down to me too much. Actually I've never even spoken to you, let alone in a rude way, so maybe next time you should be a little more kind in how you criticize someone or their views. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I just meant a woman in general who is a head of state. In america that hasn't happened yet and I hope that it does soon. If not Hilary then someone. I want my daughter to be born into a country where we have already had a female president. A lot of people who follow Politics also want Hilary to win so I don't think you should talk down to me too much. Actually I've never even spoken to you, let alone in a rude way, so maybe next time you should be a little more kind in how you criticize someone or their views.Im not trying to be condescending so I apologize if its coming of that way. But what your saying was kind of ignorant and I was just trying to help you see that. It doesn't matter If other people think she is best. I don't think one should make statements about her being president if they know nothing about her (or about politics in general). It just makes you look foolish which I was trying to help you prevent. You should just research and not let others dictate opinion. You might find more respectable women on both sides Rep and Dem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Im not trying to be condescending so I apologize if its coming of that way. But what your saying was kind of ignorant and I was just trying to help you see that. It doesn't matter If other people think she is best. I don't think one should make statements about her being president if they know nothing about her (or about politics in general). It just makes you look foolish which I was trying to help you prevent. You should just research and not let others dictate opinion. You might find more respectable women on both sides Rep and Dem.obviously there are better women and obviously there are better candidates. But when it comes to the front runners for 2016 Clinton will be the one the works better for me (considering her opponents are republicans and no prominent democrat seems to stand a chance at the moment). But yeah I don't think you were coming off as condescending you were just plain being condescending. I get that you're trying to help me out but you went about it in the exact opposite way that you should've. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I don't think you really follow politics cause you wouldn't say such stupid things if you had. Sorry but there are better people for your daughter to look up to then Hillary Clinton. Your right about Clinton wanting power at least. She's a power hungry individual who will lie, cheat and scam the American people to get to it. She's not any better then others when it comes to this but there are things she has done in recent months that are atrocious. You should inform yourself and look it up instead of glorifying her and choosing role models for your daughter. It would be a shame if she had 1% of the character Clinton has.\ Nnnn sis, don't act like because you watch the news you have insight to be so rude and act as if you know and fully understand the intentions of Hillary Clinton personally . That tea emoticon wasn't appropriate. I do think that deleting the e-mails is quite suspect, but the Benghazi incident in general has been stretched out for quite some time and Republicans will literally drag up anything possible to stop a Democrat from winning, and history has shown that its more about demonizing their opponents in any way possible, not because they truly care about the incidents they drag up. Maybe that's an assumption too, but Clinton has already expressed an appropriate amount of guilt over the Benghazi incident and taken some responsibility for it. Also, Politicians have used private servers for the emails plenty of times in the past; while there should be some sort of universal standard for the process, I don't feel like Clinton was especially negligent; Anyway, every candidate has some red flag(s) in their history (She should call Olivia Pope ) and I don't think that this one is so terrible that we can be making these kind of sweeping judgments about her actual character. Hillary has done good things for the country and they will remain part of her legacy. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 obviously there are better women and obviously there are better candidates. But when it comes to the front runners for 2016 Clinton will be the one the works better for me (considering her opponents are republicans and no prominent democrat seems to stand a chance at the moment). But yeah I don't think you were coming off as condescending you were just plain being condescending. I get that you're trying to help me out but you went about it in the exact opposite way that you should've.Well that's your opinion I guess. How you take what I say isn't really my problem. I would just hope people are smart enough to make informed decisions when voting, Research and not just pick a women because they think its about time and she's the only women to choose from so oh well. That dosent do anyone any favors (Even your daughter) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Well that's your opinion I guess. How you take what I say isn't really my problem. I would just hope people are smart enough to make informed decisions when voting, Research and not just pick a women because they think its about time and she's the only women to choose from so oh well. That dosent do anyone any favors (Even your daughter) I'll vote for her because she will most likely be the pro-lgbt candidate/pro-choice candidate. I need another democrat in the house. if anything I'm blindly following democrats, not women. I mean it isn't like I liked Sarah Palin just because she was a girl.besides obviously you meant it to offend, after all you're the self described "king of shade" You could've broken down why Hilary was bad politically (beyond the Benghazi events which i am already aware of).. But instead you took the moment to try and make me look as dumb as you could. Which is fine because fortunately people on this site don't care about negative members like you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Nnnn sis, don't act like because you watch the news you have insight to be so rude and act as if you know and fully understand the intentions of Hillary Clinton personally . That tea emoticon wasn't appropriate. I do think that deleting the e-mails is quite suspect, but the Benghazi incident in general has been stretched out for quite some time and Republicans will literally drag up anything possible to stop a Democrat from winning, and history has shown that its more about demonizing their opponents in any way possible, not because they truly care about the incidents they drag up. Maybe that's an assumption too, but Clinton has already expressed an appropriate amount of guilt over the Benghazi incident and taken some responsibility for it. Also, Politicians have used private servers for the emails plenty of times in the past; while there should be some sort of universal standard for the process, I don't feel like Clinton was especially negligent; Anyway, every candidate has some red flag(s) in their history (She should call Olivia Pope ) and I don't think that this one is so terrible that we can be making these kind of sweeping judgments about her actual character. Hillary has done good things for the country and they will remain part of her legacy. Im actually a political science/ International relations major so.... Yea I'm Informed/ Have insight/ know what im talking about.Listen My issue wasn't that this person wants to vote Hillary. I Don't care if your Rep, Dem, Ind, Green, Communists, ect.. It was more that I could tell it was more of a "Hey I want to vote for a women because its time " thing Which is beyond reckless and an uninformed decision. I don't care If you vote Hillary as long as your informed on why your voting for her and not doing it cause its cool or based on her gender that's all. Saying so my daughter can look up to someone? I just hope you know what your showing her thats all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted April 7, 2015 Author Share Posted April 7, 2015 Im actually a political science/ International relations major so.... Yea I'm Informed/ Have insight/ know what im talking about.Listen My issue wasn't that this person wants to vote Hillary. I Don't care if your Rep, Dem, Ind, Green, Communists, ect.. It was more that I could tell it was more of a "Hey I want to vote for a women because its time " thing Which is beyond reckless and an uninformed decision. I don't care If you vote Hillary as long as your informed on why your voting for her and not doing it cause its cool or based on her gender that's all. Saying so my daughter can look up to someone? I just hope you know what your showing her thats all.Even if I ended up liking a republican my state automatically votes blue no matter what so my power won't extend beyond the primaries. Obviously it'll depend on who is challenging her but it looks like she is getting my vote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I'll vote for her because she will most likely be the pro-lgbt candidate/pro-choice candidate. I need another democrat in the house. if anything I'm blindly following democrats, not women. I mean it isn't like I liked Sarah Palin just because she was a girl.besides obviously you meant it to offend, after all you're the self described "king of shade" You could've broken down why Hilary was bad politically (beyond the Benghazi events which i am already aware of).. But instead you took the moment to try and make me look as dumb as you could. Which is fine because fortunately people on this site don't care about negative members like you. "That's fine I don't come here to be "Cared for" unlike some people. I have friends and family who do that so save it for the people on here who need it. I come here to basically state my opinion like everyone else. But Your emotionally spewed comments don't effect me. I really never called you dumb or tried to make you look dumb so that might be an insecurity of yours you are projecting on yourself you may want to work on that. I apologized already if you felt any kind of way so I don't have really much else to say ill leave you with a famous Quote."Be careful when you blindly follow the masses. Sometimes the "M" is silent." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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