Gay Men, Stop Appropriating Black Women!

[bigpinkenergy 1,050]

​When it comes to the n-word I feel like less white people would be using it if nobody (not even blacks) used it as an affectionate term and it just became condemned like fa ggot is. If it wasn't enforced so excessively in hip-hop as a term for dude then the only way it would be used is in a racist way. Then only the racists would use it. I feel like not only are white people to blame for racism but so are blacks. I don't know if I make any sense and I don't mean to offend anyone by saying that.

 

I know you're not trying to be offensive, so I'm going to try and explain it to you very clearly.

look at the word 'slut' - women and girls get called this all the damn time for any reason at all. Whether it's kissing someone or even wearing a vest top. Even being blonde! Women get called sluts so often it's become normal.

heres the deal. I've been called a slut by men and boys. I have been upset by this, I have friends who go through the same **** too because they're also females. If I call myself a slut, it's my way of standing up to this oppression. I am using the word to empower myself. 

If I openly say I am a slut, I am telling everyone who ever called me one that I am braver and stronger than them. If a man calls me a slut, his intention is to degrade me, to make me seem small. The same translates to the N word, and the F word.

[Vernier 3,786]

​When it comes to the n-word I feel like less white people would be using it if nobody (not even blacks) used it as an affectionate term and it just became condemned like fa ggot is. If it wasn't enforced so excessively in hip-hop as a term for dude then the only way it would be used is in a racist way. Then only the racists would use it. I feel like not only are white people to blame for racism but so are blacks. I don't know if I make any sense and I don't mean to offend anyone by saying that.

 

​While yes, it'd be ideal if everyone stopped saying the "n" word, I still don't understand why it seems to affect some white people so deeply that there seems to be a word black people can say but they can't  The rationale behind some black people using the word is to try to "reclaim" it due to the history of the word. If black people want to say it among themselves, then why shouldn't they be able to? Why is it so difficult for some white people knowing the history of the word as regards to whites, to simply you know, not say it. It's really not that hard  

[Tropico 4,145]

Honestly movements like this are what are actually doing harm. They're basically driving a wedge between white gay men and black women.

Also this is grossly sterotypical.. it's assuming all gay white men appropriate and act like black women? I find this extremely offensive and stereotypical. And about white and male privilege,  excuse me but gay men are still not able to get married in many places, make less than equally-qualified straight men, are routinely discriminated against, etc. They are not protected by law in all states, unlike black women.

It also accuses ones culture of being stolen by another group? People hate racism but are still so insistant on sorting people/culture into stereotypical groups.

Honestly, this country will make a lot more progress if people stop whining and being so overly sensitive. People need to stop trying to create divisions and dragging down other groups. Every group has their problems and obstacles and should support each other.

 

I'm assuming you're white.  

OBVIOUSLY, this article doesn't apply to you if you are a white gay man who doesn't appropriate black culture. You just inserted the word "all" there so you can be oppressed. 

And don't even try it with the privilege stunt. Again, OBVIOUSLY you aren't as privileged as a white straight cisgender male if you're gay but if you're white and male, you've got privilege in most cases in society. There's like a whole chart as to how privileged one can be. So don't make it seem like being a WoC is a stroll in the park.  

 

And "whining"? Seriously? SERIOUSLY?  EXCUSE BLACK WOMAN FOR NOT WANTING TO HAVE THEIR CULTURE STOLEN AND MADE A MOCKERY OF. THESE DAMN BLACK PEOPLE. 

[Supersonic 49,376]

​When it comes to the n-word I feel like less white people would be using it if nobody (not even blacks) used it as an affectionate term and it just became condemned like fa ggot is. If it wasn't enforced so excessively in hip-hop as a term for dude then the only way it would be used is in a racist way. Then only the racists would use it. I feel like not only are white people to blame for racism but so are blacks. I don't know if I make any sense and I don't mean to offend anyone by saying that.

 

The f-word is used pretty dominantly in the gay community, especially in the drag community. It ain't that shunned with straight people as well as I have noticed from my experience.

But it's always the same pattern: A word comes up to degrade a whole subset of people. The people orignally degraded by the word reclaim it into a statement of power and not giving a f*ck. But then a lot people are like "Why can't we use that word now?" I feel like a lot of people are just outraged that something is specific and special for one community only.

[Tropico 4,145]

I know you're not trying to be offensive, so I'm going to try and explain it to you very clearly.

look at the word 'slut' - women and girls get called this all the damn time for any reason at all. Whether it's kissing someone or even wearing a vest top. Even being blonde! Women get called sluts so often it's become normal.

heres the deal. I've been called a slut by men and boys. I have been upset by this, I have friends who go through the same **** too because they're also females. If I call myself a slut, it's my way of standing up to this oppression. I am using the word to empower myself. 

If I openly say I am a slut, I am telling everyone who ever called me one that I am braver and stronger than them. If a man calls me a slut, his intention is to degrade me, to make me seem small. The same translates to the N word, and the F word.

Habwgwjsiwowuwiehwuwj the amount of truth in this one damn post.  

[Blue Jeans 3,815]

Do you remember that Oreo coco thread mess or nah

​That thread.. i was insulted for trying to close it, got called names, got wpts.. when they were at fault to begin with, such a shameful thread in a Gaga forum.. the most ironic thing i've seen here.

[Morphine Prince 109,680]

​While yes, it'd be ideal if everyone stopped saying the "n" word, I still don't understand why it seems to affect some white people so deeply that there seems to be a word black people can say but they can't  The rationale behind some black people using the word is to try to "reclaim" it due to the history of the word. If black people want to say it among themselves, then why shouldn't they be able to? Why is it so difficult for some white people knowing the history of the word as regards to whites, to simply you know, not say it. It's really not that hard  

​You know why it's hard? Because white people, even if they do it unconsciously are used to not having any restrictions in society. Most of the Western and developed world were originally white and are now becoming multi-cultural. And when I say "no restrictions" I am not referring to poverty, looks etc. (that's another topic), I am referring to simply being white. Most of society has never told them that being themselves is something degrading or that they need to act like another race to fit in. They have not been told to aspire to be like another race. They have not been told that their race is inferior. 

So when they are asked to not use one word, they feel they are being discriminated. Because luckily, they haven't faced discrimination in their environment due to their color and facial features. 

[Guest]

Honestly movements like this are what are actually doing harm. They're basically driving a wedge between white gay men and black women.

Also this is grossly sterotypical.. it's assuming all gay white men appropriate and act like black women? I find this extremely offensive and stereotypical. And about white and male privilege,  excuse me but gay men are still not able to get married in many places, make less than equally-qualified straight men, are routinely discriminated against, etc. They are not protected by law in all states, unlike black women.

It also accuses ones culture of being stolen by another group? People hate racism but are still so insistant on sorting people/culture into stereotypical groups.

Honestly, this country will make a lot more progress if people stop whining and being so overly sensitive. People need to stop trying to create divisions and dragging down other groups. Every group has their problems and obstacles and should support each other.

 

They could have phrased it better by not generalizing all gay people, yes. 

 

What I don't agree with is the "stop whining and being overly sensitive" part. People are hurt, they have something to say. It may not affect you, but there are voices and they MUST be heard. Only by talking about issues like these we can take a step towards a more tolerant world, a world where individuality is embraced and not mocked, or stolen in this case.

[Cody Draco 2,531]

​While yes, it'd be ideal if everyone stopped saying the "n" word, I still don't understand why it seems to affect some white people so deeply that there seems to be a word black people can say but they can't  The rationale behind some black people using the word is to try to "reclaim" it due to the history of the word. If black people want to say it among themselves, then why shouldn't they be able to? Why is it so difficult for some white people knowing the history of the word as regards to whites, to simply you know, not say it. It's really not that hard  

​I honestly don't know why so many non-white people of my generation feel the need to use it. I don't.

I think now the important thing is to be able to differentiate between when it is used in a racist way or in a non-racist way since it's become so mainstream.

 

 

 

[faux 2,190]

Some of the posts here seem like they're posted from an other planet  

I never knew black people are being called names and stuff for " acting white "  how stupid is that 

[Morphine Prince 109,680]

​While yes, it'd be ideal if everyone stopped saying the "n" word, I still don't understand why it seems to affect some white people so deeply that there seems to be a word black people can say but they can't  The rationale behind some black people using the word is to try to "reclaim" it due to the history of the word. If black people want to say it among themselves, then why shouldn't they be able to? Why is it so difficult for some white people knowing the history of the word as regards to whites, to simply you know, not say it. It's really not that hard  

Sorry, it posted twice. 

[bigpinkenergy 1,050]

Some of the posts here seem like they're posted from an other planet  

I never knew black people are being called names and stuff for " acting white "  how stupid is that 

Sadly it's the world we live in.

[Tropico 4,145]

Can I just say, I've loved this thread. It's great to see some deep threads which require you to put away your Kim Kardashian gifs and give a profound answer.  Even if I don't agree with some people, it just feels good to have some real talk on this site.  

 

Continue.  

[Cody Draco 2,531]

I know you're not trying to be offensive, so I'm going to try and explain it to you very clearly.

look at the word 'slut' - women and girls get called this all the damn time for any reason at all. Whether it's kissing someone or even wearing a vest top. Even being blonde! Women get called sluts so often it's become normal.

heres the deal. I've been called a slut by men and boys. I have been upset by this, I have friends who go through the same **** too because they're also females. If I call myself a slut, it's my way of standing up to this oppression. I am using the word to empower myself. 

If I openly say I am a slut, I am telling everyone who ever called me one that I am braver and stronger than them. If a man calls me a slut, his intention is to degrade me, to make me seem small. The same translates to the N word, and the F word.

​I understand, but then once someone has reclaimed a word is it really okay to feel offended by the word if someone else attempts to use it against you? Since you now call yourself a slut then why would it matter when someone else called you one?

Personally I don't feel the need to go around saying I'm a ******* or calling other gays *******s to feel secure. However, I also don't get offended when someone calls me one now. When I was just a kid, yeah it hurt being bullied before I even knew I was bi. Then I grew up and accepted who I was. Now it doesn't affect who I am. So maybe the issue is just people accepting themselves and knowing themselves. It also comes down to accepting the fact not everyone in the world is going to accept and like you. That is the reality of the world we live in. Instead of focusing on everyone else's perception of your s-xuality or your race, first focus on your own. Find the peace within so you can share peace with the world. Maybe that way one day the world will be a peaceful place.

 

[SissyFromSpace 20,884]

I've over this oppressed Olympics