Melech 9,900 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Tensions between Denmark and Russia were ratcheted up a notch on Saturday. Russia’s ambassador to Denmark, Mikhail Vanin, wrote in an opinion piece published by Jyllands-Posten that Denmark has made itself a target of a potential nuclear attack by joining Nato’s missile defence system. “I don’t think the Danes fully understand the consequences of what will happen if Denmark joins the American-controlled missile defence. If it happens, Danish war ships will become targets for Russian atomic missiles,” Vanin wrote. Denmark announced in August that it will will contribute at least one frigate to Nato’s defence system. At the time, Defence Minister Nicolai Wammen said that joining the missile defence system was not a move aimed at Russia. “That Denmark will join the missile defence system with radar capacity on one or more of our frigates is not an action that is targeted against Russia, but rather to protect us against rogues states, terrorist organisations and others that have the capacity to fire missiles at Europe and the US,” Wammen told Jyllands-Posten in August. Vanin’s op-ed made it clear that Russia doesn’t share that interpretation. “Denmark will become a part of the threat against Russia. It will be less peaceful and the relationship with Russia will be harmed. It is of course your decision – I want to simply remind you that it will cost you both money and security,” Vanin wrote. “At the same time, Russia has missiles that are guaranteed to break through future global missile defence systems,” he continued. Danish Foreign Minister Martin Lidegaard called Vanin’s statements “unacceptable”. “Russia knows fully well that Nato’s missile defence is not aimed at them. We are in disagreement with Russia on a number of important things but it is important that the tone between us does not escalate,” Lidegaard told Jyllands-Posten. The US ambassador to Denmark, Rufus Gifford, also responded to Vanin's remarks. "We stand with our staunch Nato ally Denmark in condemning the unacceptable statements made by Russia's Ambassador to Denmark. We have made clear that Nato's ballistic missile defence is not directed at any country, but is meant to defend against missile threats," Gifford wrote on Facebook. On Twitter, he added that "such statements do not inspire confidence or contribute to peace and stability": Denmark’s relationship with Russia has been strained by increased Russian airspace activity over and near Denmark. In December a Russian military jet nearly collided with a SAS passenger plane out of Copenhagen. An October report from the Danish Defence Intelligence Service (Forsvarets Efterretningstjeneste) revealed that Russia carried out a simulated attack on the island of Bornholm last summer, and in March last year a Swedish SAS pilot said his plane was “just seconds” from crashing into a Russian jet. Vanin is not exactly a stranger to controversial statements. Following the December near-miss with the SAS, he suggested that Swedish authorities may have imagined the whole thing after smoking too much cannabis. "The Swedish authorities also recently said there was a submarine in their waters. There wasn’t. Now they say again that they have seen something. I'm afraid the Swedes visit Pusher Street very often," Vanin told Berlingske, referring to the Christiania neighbourhood in Copenhagen known for its cannabis trade. Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt said in November thatDenmark is not overly concerned about Russian aggression. “In terms of our territory, we are not worried. We keep our heads calm and the cockpit warm,” she said. Wammen has also said that Denmark would not hesitate to stand up to Russia telling the Financial Times that “the Russians know we will do what is necessary.” http://www.thelocal.dk/20150321/russia-threatens-denmark-with-nuclear-attack mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocaine Heart 4,768 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 We going to boo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 F*CK, I hate Vladimir so much. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 At least someone's being honest about it. The idea that Europe or the US don't have a nuclear security backdoor against Russia is insane. I dislike Russia's political system, but I prefer it massively over the mix of secrecy and pretense-diplomacy that other Western entities pursue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yassitscarcass 13 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I kind of find it funny that Russia tries to start sh*t with other countries but doesn't wanna be looked at as an as*hole of a country... #WorldWar3in2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiphEret 1,320 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Denmark vs Russia and Denmark will win and we are like so tiny...Democracy rules Putin so go home! Time to wake up we are in 2015... Sur le sable sur la neige, Sur les images dorées,Sur le front de mes amis, J’écris ton nom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erotica 34,929 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I really wonder where this will end Poor is the man whose pleasures depend on the permission of another Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,103 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 What kind of mess, something amiss within these Russian think tank's minds, I swear. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester 6,388 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I'm legit scared for our future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haroon 49,685 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I'm kinda clueless about politics and war stuff so I'm just going by this article If Denmark have stated that the missile thing isn't against Russia or anything, but for their own safety, then why are Russia taking it so personally? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagamel 3,410 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Denmark vs Russia and Denmark will win and we are like so tiny...Democracy rules Putin so go home! Time to wake up we are in 2015... lmao right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swando 300 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Jesus, i guess since i live in Denmark, i will be part of the first country to get nuked by when Putin goes mad i mean, more mad than he already is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I'm kinda clueless about politics and war stuff so I'm just going by this article If Denmark have stated that the missile thing isn't against Russia or anything, but for their own safety, then why are Russia taking it so personally? Because they simply don't believe them, which isn't that shocking. Nuclear "protection" has been placed in Europe for years and Russia has repeatedly interpreted them as threats. The idea that the already present missile defence system needs to be expanded just as there's so much increased tension between US/Europe and Russia, especially surrounding the whole Ukraine issue, is suspicious to me too. Basically, Russia's convinced that the US has been gaining allies against Russia, probably using promises of wealth and power, for a possible future military conflict where the US/Europe will have to battle it out against Russia and every time a fairly neutral country joins a NATO initiative, Russia is on its feet. In international politics there's not really a solid reason to believe that everyone's lying about their motives, but there's no solid reason to believe that they're telling the truth either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 sorry I had to. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haroon 49,685 Posted March 22, 2015 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Because they simply don't believe them, which isn't that shocking. Nuclear "protection" has been placed in Europe for years and Russia has repeatedly interpreted them as threats. The idea that the already present missile defence system needs to be expanded just as there's so much increased tension between US/Europe and Russia, especially surrounding the whole Ukraine issue, is suspicious to me too. Basically, Russia's convinced that the US has been gaining allies against Russia, probably using promises of wealth and power, for a possible future military conflict where the US/Europe will have to battle it out against Russia and every time a fairly neutral country joins a NATO initiative, Russia is on its feet. In international politics there's not really a solid reason to believe that everyone's lying about their motives, but there's no solid reason to believe that they're telling the truth either Oh wow Thanks a lot for this by the way, it makes a lot more sense to me now Although right now it seems like a volcano laying dormant, waiting to erupt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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