Melech 9,900 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 President of the European Commission (EC) Jean-Claude Juncker has called for the creation of a European Union army, amid tension with Russia over the crisis in Ukraine. “Such an army would help us to build a common foreign and security policy, as well as jointly assume the responsibilities of Europe in the world,†said Juncker in an interview with German weekly Welt am Sonntag published on Sunday. Juncker added that the formation of a European armed forces would signal to Moscow the political and economic union is “serious about upholding the values of the European Union.†“A common European army would show the world that there will by no means be war once more amongst EU nations,†said Juncker. According to the EC chief, an EU army could be used to “react credibly†to dangers facing one of the 28-member states or any of the bloc’s neighboring countries. The German weekly reported that Juncker has backing in the German legislature, including chairman of Germany’s foreign affairs committee Norbert Rottgen, who said it is time to put such a proposal in action. “The Europeans spend enormous sums of money for the military combined, much more than Russia,†said Rottgen, adding, “But our military capabilities remain an insufficient security policy as long as we maintain small national armies, which make and buy many parts of the same thing on a smaller scale.†Former EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana is set to present the findings of a report titled, More Union in European Defense. The report calls for a new European protection method, which would have “a political and military ability to autonomously conduct intervention operations beyond the EU’s borders.†The report also calls for the establishment of a military EU headquarters in the bloc’s de facto capital, Brussels. According to the report, a common security policy would bring savings to the bloc’s member states, which altogether spends €190 billion annually to maintain 28 national armies, consisting of roughly 1.5 million service personnel. The proposals to extend EU’s military capabilities come amid tensions between European countries and the US over the Ukrainian crisis. The Western governments accuse Russia of destabilizing Ukraine, an allegation which Moscow has repeatedly denied. Meanwhile, NATO plans to expand its military presence in Eastern Europe amid the crisis in Ukraine and has held numerous war games over the past year. In 2014, NATO forces held some 200 military exercises, with the alliance’s General Secretary Jens Stoltenberg having promised that such drills would continue. Moscow has repeatedly condemned NATO’s exercises and military buildup toward its borders. CAH/HSN/HMV http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/03/08/400827/EC-chief-wants-to-create-EU-army amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 Why is this any different to NATO* though; other than different countries being a part of it? Or even UN peacekeeping forces; which even smaller and neutral countries assist with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 Why is this any different to NATO* though; other than different countries being a part of it? Or even UN peacekeeping forces; which even smaller and neutral countries assist with ​both things are very american influenced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 ​both things are very american influenced. ​America is usually involved in any intervention by the two main European militaries (the UK and France) anyway though and co-operation between the two (Europe and the USA) would still need to happen. Plus, a unified European army would be pushing the war neutral states (like Sweden and Ireland; neither of which are in NATO) into action they probably wouldn't have taken otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 The last thing we need is unified armies. This is how you get World Wars, people. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 The last thing we need is unified armies. This is how you get World Wars, people. ​And let Russia still acting like a douche at the borders of the European Union? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 ​America is usually involved in any intervention by the two main European militaries (the UK and France) anyway though and co-operation between the two (Europe and the USA) would still need to happen. Plus, a unified European army would be pushing the war neutral states (like Sweden and Ireland; neither of which are in NATO) into action they probably wouldn't have taken otherwise ​That's true. I also doubt that UK is in favor of this. I guess it will be like a new union within a union Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,888 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 ​And let Russia still acting like a douche at the borders of the European Union? ​I didn't say that, I said unifying armies will lead to another World War. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,068 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 That is like saying implicitly they are getting ready for the worst, you know, in.hindsight, typical diplomatical statement of saying it. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,068 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 That is like saying implicitly they are getting ready for the worst, you know, in.hindsight, typical diplomatical statement of saying it. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 “A common European army would show the world that there will by no means be war once more amongst EU nations,†Sounds great, but I don't want no world war either The thought of a unified army scares me. I don't want diplomacy to fail. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 One step closer that European Federation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 “A common European army would show the world that there will by no means be war once more amongst EU nations,†Sounds great, but I don't want no world war either The thought of a unified army scares me. I don't want diplomacy to fail. ​I thought the existence of the EU alone would "show the world that there will by no means be war once more amongst EU nations"; it sounds more like an excuse for something else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted March 8, 2015 Share Posted March 8, 2015 ​I thought the existence of the EU alone would "show the world that there will by no means be war once more amongst EU nations"; it sounds more like an excuse for something else ​lol that's true Maybe just the money argument? Whatever it is, it worries me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 8, 2015 Author Share Posted March 8, 2015 “A common European army would show the world that there will by no means be war once more amongst EU nations,†Sounds great, but I don't want no world war either The thought of a unified army scares me. I don't want diplomacy to fail. ​I don't think a world war would happen then. It would be more a sign to other countries like "Don't fück with us" What happening in Ukraine can next maybe happen in a EU-state like Lithuania or Estonia, but with an united European army I'm sure Russia will think twice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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