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Washington (CNN) - President Barack Obama, exercising his veto power for the first time in five years, rejected on Tuesday a measure green-lighting the construction of the controversial Keystone XL pipeline.

Obama's signature denying the Keystone bill kicks off what's expected to be a flurry of vetoes on measures that Republicans will send to the White House now they control both chambers of Congress. The President has already threatened to reject 13 GOP-sponsored pieces of legislation, including bills rolling back the Affordable Care Act and reversing his executive action on immigration.

On Keystone, it appears unlikely GOP lawmakers will be able to reverse Obama's veto. The threshold for overriding a President's veto is a two-thirds vote in each chamber of Congress.

After the President's official veto message was received in the Senate at about 3:30 p.m., Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announced the veto override will happen no later than next Tuesday.

The measure, which passed the Republican controlled House and Senate earlier this month, would have bypassed an administration review of the oil pipeline project, which if completed would transport oil from tar sands in Canada to the Gulf of Mexico.

Advocates -- including Republican leaders in Congress and the government of Canada -- say Keystone would create American jobs, but opponents argue the potential environmental risks aren't worth it.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/24/politics/obama-keystone-veto/

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RAMROD

I think Economy won't be happy about this :fan:

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I just dont see the big deal in the pipeline.. it will help make us more energy independent and lots of people could use the work. If the continental railroad was trying to be built in 2015, it would never exist because too many people would stand up and cry out for the irrelevant species of snails or earthworms we would be putting at risk with the construction... always something.. :toofunny:

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Morphine Prince

I think Economy won't be happy about this :fan:

I was surprised he didn't post this yesterday lol. 

I just dont see the big deal in the pipeline.. it will help make us more energy independent and lots of people could use the work. If the continental railroad was trying to be built in 2015, it would never exist because too many people would stand up and cry out for the irrelevant species of snails or earthworms we would be putting at risk with the construction... always something.. :toofunny:

Except the jobs 'created' for this would cease to exist as soon as the construction is done and I believe only about 50 workers would be left. And this pipeline already exists, this is just an addition they wanted to make. 

 

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I just dont see the big deal in the pipeline.. it will help make us more energy independent and lots of people could use the work. If the continental railroad was trying to be built in 2015, it would never exist because too many people would stand up and cry out for the irrelevant species of snails or earthworms we would be putting at risk with the construction... always something.. :toofunny:

Biodiversity is important, those species are not irrelevant.

 

Republicans need to be kept on a leash.

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AnglerfishbraBENUS

I just dont see the big deal in the pipeline.. it will help make us more energy independent and lots of people could use the work. If the continental railroad was trying to be built in 2015, it would never exist because too many people would stand up and cry out for the irrelevant species of snails or earthworms we would be putting at risk with the construction... always something.. :toofunny:

It would create 50 jobs and do so much harm to nature.

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Morphine Prince

Politifact has debunked many of the claims of the supporters (and Obama) as FALSE: 

 

Source: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2015/jan/09/3-key-keystone-xl-questions-answered/

 

Many proponents, like TransCanada CEO Russ Girling, say the project will create 42,000 jobs. Girling said these jobs would be "ongoing, enduring," and we rated that claim False.

The State Department report does puts the total number of jobs at 42,100 -- but the definition of a job in this sense is a position filled for one year. This total reflects both jobs created directly as a result of construction and manufacturing for the pipeline -- about 3,900 annual positions over two years -- as well as spin-off jobs supported by construction workers who purchase materials for the project or spend their wages in the economy. Much of the construction work would come in four- or or eight-month stretches.

House Speaker Rep. John Boehner, R-Ohio, said "The nearly six-year delay in approving Keystone is costing Americans more than 100,000 jobs." He was citing a study that experts said was flawed and that TransCanada, said was "no longer relevant." We rated that statement False.

In saying the number of jobs the project would create are insignificant, Obama said the "most realistic estimates… are maybe 2,000 jobs during the construction of the pipeline." Based on the State Department report, we also rated that claim False.

The construction phase, though, is expected to take only one to two years. After construction, the pipeline would employ a lesser number, primarily for maintenance. The total number of long-term jobs: about 50.
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Morphine Prince

Meanwhile people in Germany are arguing about whether the wind turbines are green enough :toofloppy:

Is it because they might kill migrating birds and bats? 

 

Still one of the cleanest things though lol. 

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Supersonic

Is it because they might kill migrating birds and bats? 

 

Still one of the cleanest things though lol. 

It's mostly because of bats and the contruction of the turbines. Studies have found that birds are intelligent enough to avoid the turbines and less than 50 birds are killed per year because they fly into them

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Economy

I think Economy won't be happy about this :fan:

Well im nit surprised so whatever. I already know hes too idiotic and illogical to think about the big picture. Plus he doesnt wanna ruin his immage of a President thats fighting global warming

Only this backfires cause transporting by rail is worse, and even if u could stop Canadas oil sands, it will only be replaced by some Country overseas with bad environmental standards (Canada at least regulates)... And many Countries like Venezuela have really toxic oils also.

Did i mention it will be carried across Oceans which has its own risks?

I dont get why ppl dont understand any of this. Ppl just associate pipelines with global warming and dont try to reason beyond that :roll:

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