craig 680 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/9420662/how-marine-le-pen-is-winning-frances-gay-vote/ The Front National now has the support of a quarter of Paris’s gay voters – and only 16 per cent of the straight ones ... An insight into the phenomenon comes from Patrick McCarthy, a young gay blogger who lives in Bordeaux. ‘Up until 2005, Bordeaux was a very gay-friendly city,’ he says. ‘Same-s-x couples could openly walk down the street holding hands without any problems. However, in the space of two months, five gay men were murdered in the city. The blame was put on Bordeaux’s Muslim community since some of these hate crimes were carried out by people of Arabic origins.’ The Bordeaux gay scene has dwindled since the attacks, but McCarthy says that he, like Lestrade, is alarmed at the way that assaults by a few Arabs have created a major polemical opposition between gays and Muslims. The Front National now offers a welcoming home to gay people who feel judged by Muslims and share wider concerns about immigration and the loss of French identity. That gay men now feel comfortable with the Front National is the result of a deliberate effort by its leader, Marine Le Pen, who has pursued a programme of detoxification (the French term is ‘de-diabolisation’) ever since she took control of the party in 2011. Her father, Jean Marie Le Pen, who led the FN from its founding in 1972 until Marine took over, described homos-xuality as a ‘biological and social anomaly’. In the 1980s he argued that all individuals with Aids should be kept in isolation, and in the 1990s was still declaring that ‘There are no queens in the National Front.’ By contrast, Marine has worked hard to expand the FN’s membership beyond obvious bigots, racists and skinheads. She has publicly condemned anti-Semitism and insists that, far from being racist, her party is the only one that defends secularity and democracy against Islamisation. A key part of this strategy is using the Islamist threat to court the sort of people that the far right has traditionally persecuted. It’s working. In the 2012 presidential elections, Le Pen won 13.5 per cent of the Jewish vote. A surprising enough statistic, but her appeal to gay activists has created even more waves. Just before Christmas, her deputy Florian Philippot was outed as gay by Closer: the same magazine that exposed Hollande’s affair with Julie Gayet. Around the same time, Le Pen appointed a new adviser: Sébastien Chenu, one of the founders of the activist organisation GayLib. FN traditionalists complained loudly that their party was being taken over by a gay cabal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I'm gay, muslim & french. How should I feel about this article ? ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunk96 2,526 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 The MDNA chantenuse. Your fave could never. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursula Buffay 73 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Hah! Europe's first gay party tbh. Lead ha! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Well it's hardly surprising. Islam and homos-xuality aren't exactly the best of friends. People expect gays to be so liberal that they should defend others who would trample all over gay rights. Obviously it is not so. I do not know the reality of living in such places in France or other countries but I would not want to live in a place where I'd be afraid of walking publicly hand in hand with my boyfriend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo cupcakke 4,781 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Marine Le Pen is like a smarter version of Sarah Palin. She makes no sense and she is such a hypocrite. Also, this whole fear of Islamisation or whatever is like a fear of the gay agenda. It is absolutely ridiculous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin 0 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Well The Front National is very populist and almost extremist party in some views, but who is suprised. The status quo with muslim immigrants in France is absolutely on the edge. I'm gay, muslim & french. How should I feel about this article ? How do your parents feel about ur homos-xuality ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Marine Le Pen is like a smarter version of Sarah Palin. She makes no sense and she is such a hypocrite. Also, this whole fear of Islamisation or whatever is like a fear of the gay agenda. It is absolutely ridiculous Except gay people have never caused reason for straight people to fear them Can we say the same about Islam for gay people? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo cupcakke 4,781 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Except gay people have never caused reason for straight people to fear them Can we say the same about Islam for gay people? Well, no but I mean people shouldn't fear Muslims. They are not trying to take over but the hysteria over the supposed take over sounds like a cover up for xenophobia wanting to go unmentioned I just wish more Muslims would integrate into society more and I know how the younger Muslim generation feels because I am a first generation American and I know there are plenty of immigrants who refuse to become one with the society they live but this generation seems to find it easier to inegrate into society better than other generations before. Hopefully, Muslims will be able to do the same as I know not all Muslims are wishing to keep away from their new culture but then again mild xenophobia is preventing those who wish to become apart of society a part of society Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmenTheNight 1,088 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Nothing surprising. If you're surprised, you may haven't read the article correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Well, no but I mean people shouldn't fear Muslims. They are not trying to take over but the hysteria over the supposed take over sounds like a cover up for xenophobia wanting to go unmentioned I just wish more Muslims would integrate into society more and I know how the younger Muslim generation feels because I am a first generation American and I know there are plenty of immigrants who refuse to become one with the society they live but this generation seems to find it easier to inegrate into society better than other generations before. Hopefully, Muslims will be able to do the same as I know not all Muslims are wishing to keep away from their new culture but then again mild xenophobia is preventing those who wish to become apart of society a part of society I understand, but unfortunately refusal to integrate, dismissal of our Western values, and those Muslims who attack gay people will all contribute to fear of Islam. And one cannot say the fears are unfounded Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huh 0 Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 cool Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 It's true, sadly. I'm pretty scared for the future of gays in Europe. But on the other hand, I think muslims can contribute to society a lot because they are hard workers and pay taxes to make up for the rising amount of pensions. I'd never vote for a nationalist party like that, because they'll probably make it harder for muslims to integrate which could probably make homophobia worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Nothing surprising. If you're surprised, you may haven't read the article correctly. Well it is surprising. Because she doesn't even hide that she will abolish the ay marriage law as soon as she gets to power Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teo 609 Posted February 1, 2015 Share Posted February 1, 2015 Can you really blame them? I'm not saying it's right, but if you really fear for your life your values and political views will take a step back and you'll look for the fastest "solution" and this woman is supposedly offering it. I'm saying all of this assuming the article is right, I can't really know if all of it is true, cause I don't live there. My advice to our fellow gays at France would be to conciser that this could turn in to a classical “First they came …†situation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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