tylerjudas 374 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 "Rita Ora is, by all accounts, living a pop star's life, except with one crucial exception: a pop star's success." That sums her up so perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girrr 1,086 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I feel so bad for her. Getting this much **** even before her second album has dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GypsyPrince 237 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I wouldn't call her an artist, more of a socialite. She belongs together with Kim Kardashian and the rest, not that there is anything bad about that, but I just wouldn't consider her an artist and I don't get people who do. Like, what has she contributed to the MUSIC industry other than appearing at events everywhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valextra 58 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 I feel so bad for her. Getting this much **** even before her second album has dropped. Why? I'm gonna using the same arguments of some people in here that they're the first to criticize negatively her. She is still making millions and a lot of money with a lot of things (music, movies, the voice, fashion campaigns) and a lot of other things including performing at the Oscar this year, instead of staying behind a computer screen only to spread negativity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nein 508 Posted January 26, 2015 Share Posted January 26, 2015 :air: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Girrr 1,086 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Why? I'm gonna using the same arguments of some people in here that they're the first to criticize negatively her. She is still making millions and a lot of money with a lot of things (music, movies, the voice, fashion campaigns) and a lot of other things including performing at the Oscar this year, instead of staying behind a computer screen only to spread negativity. That was my point. She's accomplishing a lot still. I don't understand the hate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Adrenaline 1,518 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 to this day I still wonder why she is famous tho It's much more fun to have hizophrenia... u never get lonely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knife 6,652 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 They let her off gently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,184 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 They took no prisoners and rightly so. Rita Ora is one of the biggest opportunists I have ever seen in the industry. Untalented and knows it, so she tries to piggyback and leech off other people's talent and success by collabing, getting them to write songs for her, being friends with them or dating them. She's always hanging on the arm of some new male artist or being all chummy with the new it girl. She's pictured at every media event going. She's had small roles in films, including her biggest role in the upcoming 50 Shades Of Grey. She's collabed with DJ Fresh, Calvin Harris, Iggy Azalea and Charli XCX. She's landed several endorsement deals with Roc Nation, Calvin Klein, Superga, Madonna's Material Girl Collection, DKNY, Rimmel, Marks And Spencer, Roberto Cavalli and Adidas. She has appeared as a host and judge on various tv programmes, including her biggest yet, as a judge on The Voice UK. And yet, the woman doesn't seem to have a fan following or major success, so how does has she landed all these amazing gigs? I don't think sleeping your way to the top is actually all that possible, but I think flirting your way definitely is. There's no denying that she must have a very seductive, persuasive personality to get all this without proving her worth yet. I want to know the full story behind why Calvin fell out with her. It must have been really juicy for him to ban her from using his songs. Read this article about her rise to fame and then read the comments underneath. Check out the top rated ones and how many thumbs up they got: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2859353/Rita-Ora-unveils-new-make-range-Rimmel.html Truth is, most people regard her as a socialite than a singer and deem her irrelevant. She is who Lana Del Rey wrote 'Fuk My Way Upto The Top' about. No flamebait intended but the truth should be said. She is such a talentless wannabe singer with good looks. These type of girls is the reason why I hate the music industry Doesn't explain the "mimicking me" line, though, but it would certainly make sense. But I agree totally with what you're saying. Girls like Rita Ora are ruining the music industry: they're young, pretty but with no talent, so they rely on others to make music for them. And then when they flop, the industry becomes even more afraid of signing/promoting/supporting female artists, particularly the ones who don't fit the script. After all, if a commercial female can't get success, what hope will have an experimental female have? That's why females have to compromise their music so much - their labels tell them to. Males don't suffer the same difficulties. I've seen some really experimental albums as well as albums that were clearly going to flop getting released by males exactly when they were due whereas female albums get delayed all the time to record a more mainstream song to be the lead or to get a release date where they might get a #1. If even the generic females are struggling, labels will be even harder on the non mainstream ones. They need to cut the BS and stop signing non-talents right from the start. Sales from the likes of Amy Winehouse, Lady Gaga, Adele, Paloma Faith (and most recently, even older artists like Kate Bush and Dolly Parton) show that the public appreciate females with talent and are more than willing to buy their music. They're outselling the untalented ones, so... A lot of people bash her because it's 'cool' and because she isn't successful. I mean, why bother to be so hateful and spend your time on making someone feel bad just because they are revamping their album/taking time to work on a catchy album? That doesn't make ANY sense to me. She's not revamping or taking time to work on an album. She only delayed it because Calvin Harris banned her from using his tracks and he obviously wrote so many that she had to take the extra time to get new ones recorded. And as she gets about 95% of her work written for her, well, again, that's going to take time. "Taking time to work on it" makes it sound as if she's got strong input, which isn't the case. If you wanna check her debut album that went #1 on the UK and certified platinum, it's called 'ORA' produced by several people like Diplo, Stargate, Will I am, and she has also a duet with J.Cole, but obviously the haters don't know these things and call her music 'trash' without even knowing what she did. And she has also a single produced by Calvin Harris 'I will never let you down', that has a sort of record for debuting sales for a single by a woman in UK or something like that ;) I know everything about her career and exactly how much she's sold and her fans try to make it seem like she's very successful when it couldn't be further from the truth. They think bringing up her 4 #1's and #1 platinum album is all that's needed to prove her success. Well, that's the superficial way that mainstream sheeple measure success by - it's not what the real world defines it as. Yes, she has 4 singles that went to #1, but the first (Hot Right Now) isn't even technically hers, it's a DJ Fresh song featuring her vocals. And R.I.P only went to #1 because it was on pre-order. I Will Never Let You Down was also another 2 month pre-order as well, and had the very success Calvin's name attached to it to help it sell. None of them have had outstanding sales either, just 400k each. So, altogether, her 4 #1 singles sold a combined total of 1.6 million. Doesn't sound so impressive when you put it like that, does it? That's about the sales of the average biggest selling single in the UK annually. Gaga also has 4 UK #1's and they have a combined total of 3.7 million. And that #1 album was released in a quiet week and only sold just over 41,000 despite those 3 #1's preceding it. And while it may be platinum, it only just scraped platinum of 300k copies and it took several discount deals on itunes before it reached that milestone. That is nothing amazing for an album released in 2012 (sales were good back then and her album was deemed a flop) and certainly nothing amazing for an artist who was new and had achieved so many hits. Point is, sales and records and relative to the situation. Rita Ora has had no cultural impact. I don't see anyone singing her songs or calling her their idol, nor can I find anyone who bought her album or even deem themselves a fan. There wasn't even enough demand for a proper arena tour. Remember when she asked for 100k retweets in order for her to leak a new track and she only got 2k? Yeah, that's the proof that the media can make an artist out to be successful but the truth will come out not in chart positions, but in album/single sales, touring attendances and overall fan numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valextra 58 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 I know everything about her career and exactly how much she's sold and her fans try to make it seem like she's very successful when it couldn't be further from the truth. They think bringing up her 4 #1's and #1 platinum album is all that's needed to prove her success. Well, that's the superficial way that mainstream sheeple measure success by - it's not what the real world defines it as. Yes, she has 4 singles that went to #1, but the first (Hot Right Now) isn't even technically hers, it's a DJ Fresh song featuring her vocals. And R.I.P only went to #1 because it was on pre-order. I Will Never Let You Down was also another 2 month pre-order as well, and had the very success Calvin's name attached to it to help it sell. None of them have had outstanding sales either, just 400k each. So, altogether, her 4 #1 singles sold a combined total of 1.6 million. Doesn't sound so impressive when you put it like that, does it? That's about the sales of the average biggest selling single in the UK annually. Gaga also has 4 UK #1's and they have a combined total of 3.7 million. And that #1 album was released in a quiet week and only sold just over 41,000 despite those 3 #1's preceding it. And while it may be platinum, it only just scraped platinum of 300k copies and it took several discount deals on itunes before it reached that milestone. That is nothing amazing for an album released in 2012 (sales were good back then and her album was deemed a flop) and certainly nothing amazing for an artist who was new and had achieved so many hits. Point is, sales and records and relative to the situation. Rita Ora has had no cultural impact. I don't see anyone singing her songs or calling her their idol, nor can I find anyone who bought her album or even deem themselves a fan. There wasn't even enough demand for a proper arena tour. Remember when she asked for 100k retweets in order for her to leak a new track and she only got 2k? Yeah, that's the proof that the media can make an artist out to be successful but the truth will come out not in chart positions, but in album/single sales, touring attendances and overall fan numbers. LOL you did your homework But it was unnecessary, I'm not a 'fan' of her, to me she can sell also 0 copies, my point was that there are people who stan for people less successful-famous or irrelevant of her that have the courage to say that she is a nobody and they don't even know that she has a platinum number 1 album as debut and 4 number one hits in the UK, still a thing that not everybody in the music business has whatever you like her or not. I'm kind of agree with some things that you said, she has definitely a very smart team that gave her a lot of opportunities, but I don't see where is the problem, I mean good for her, it's not that they're using my money to give her contracts or that she is demanding to be the 'Queen of Pop' or a 'critically acclaimed' one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumblr 1,846 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Ever since she turned Rob Kardashian fat, I don't know ha. Mariah - Ariana - Rihanna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,184 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 LOL you did your homework But it was unnecessary, I'm not a 'fan' of her, to me she can sell also 0 copies, my point was that there are people who stan for people less successful-famous or irrelevant of her that have the courage to say that she is a nobody and they don't even know that she has a platinum number 1 album as debut and 4 number one hits in the UK, still a thing that not everybody in the music business has whatever you like her or not. I'm kind of agree with some things that you said, she has definitely a very smart team that gave her a lot of opportunities, but I don't see where is the problem, I mean good for her, it's not that they're using my money to give her contracts or that she is demanding to be the 'Queen of Pop' or a 'critically acclaimed' one. That's the thing - I know my stuff when it comes to the music of today as I review it all and keep up to date with charts and sales. I know who was really a success and who wasn't, so it's very difficult to prove to me that someone is successful when they clearly weren't. When people who stan for less successful people call her irrelevant, they say that knowing that their fave is probably just as irrelevant, but in a different way. Their fave doesn't have promotion and/or commercial music, so it's understandable why they don't have success. Rita on the other hand, has tons of promo, generic music and #1's, so why is there very little demand for her albums, tours and so on? Why does she not seem to have a fanbase? That is why they're calling her irrelevant as an insult. True, not many people know how much every artist is selling right now, but I think in Rita's case, her detractors definitely know because a lot of them have been researching her to work out why she's everywhere right now when her music isn't even that big. See, I just don't like it when untalented people get so many opportunities and success. I may call her a smart businesswoman at most, but I definitely won't say "good for her." She's already getting quite the ego on her. That demand for 100k retweets was just the start. She made an Instagram post of her hand over the 50 Shades script and declared that 2015 was going to be a year filled with movies, music, clothes and make up and it was going to be a #ORAtakeover. She really thinks she's a superstar and that's what happens when we start praising people when they get opportunities, regardless of whether they deserved them or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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