Adakam 2 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 People should not be fighting death with death, it solves nothing and just infuriates both sides further and causes more death this, what does the killer expect? its not like they are gonna say, "ooooh, they killed one of us, lets stop the movement and turn ourselves in" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theMonster5 74 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 If they can't deport the outsiders from their homeland, then they resort to killing them. So Muslims should stay in their homeland and not immigrate because of these extreme patriotic folks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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craig 680 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 You mean - you always try to blame the victim (if the victim is not a Jew or any other non-muslim) and save the face of your fellow islamophobes. You are trying to find excuse for murderer. What else is new. Problems with reading much? I pose your own question back. How the hell do you equate suggesting the motivation might be a personal dispute (because they are neighbours) with making excuses for the killer? Murder is murder and he is still the aggressor. save the face of your fellow islamophobes. Says someone who posts tons of stuff to "save face" for people you regard as "your side." The terrorists embarrassed Muslims, so you're looking for evidence of moral equivalence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
androiduser 7,438 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Whenever I hear somebody got killed, in any kind of murder/accident, I think to myself... was this person a homophobe? if so, good riddance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 I found an English source on the French attack, and it sounds more a case of mental illness than anything political. http://news.yahoo.com/moroccan-man-murdered-islamophobic-attack-france-001932146.html Prosecutors in Avignon confirmed that a man had been charged on Thursday with "murder, attempted murder and possession of d--gs", before being committed to a psychiatric hospital in nearby Montfavet. "The Islamophobic aspect will be investigated when we interview this boy who claims to have heard voices," a spokesman added. ... A source close to the investigation of the Beaucet murder said he did not think it was "a purely Islamophobic act," although he admitted that the events of the past week could have "stirred up fear and a rise in adrenaline". He said the alleged attacker was in an incoherent state when he was arrested near the scene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 I pose your own question back. How the hell do you equate suggesting the motivation might be a personal dispute (because they are neighbours) with making excuses for the killer? Murder is murder and he is still the aggressor. Says someone who posts tons of stuff to "save face" for people you regard as "your side." The terrorists embarrassed Muslims, so you're looking for evidence of moral equivalence. It took for you ages to think of an answer. If the victim was a Jew there would be no question about whether attack was antisemitic or not, it always is! But even in this case, when he was yelling anti-muslim slogans while stabbing the victim, you try so hard to think it's "only" case of bad neighbour relations. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigmatica 0 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Wow, this is really disturbing and sad. Those idiots should stop blaming ordinary muslims for what terrorists do. Morons Humanity sucks! EDIT: Wait there was a user in here who said his mother was wearing hijab . I really hope nothing happens to her or the other peaceful muslims. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 I found an English source on the French attack, and it sounds more a case of mental illness than an anything political. http://news.yahoo.com/moroccan-man-murdered-islamophobic-attack-france-001932146.html Yes, it took western media 2-3 days to pick up this story in english. And even then the article is so poorly written, the attacker is 28 years old, then 47 in next paragraph. They don't think it's "solely" islamophobic, it doesn't mean that it isn't. Also most of the terrorists had history of crimes, in and out of prison, d--g abuse, mental illness etc None of those are ever brought up, it's always the religion to blame. Well in this case, fear of muslims made this French men to kill his neighbour. You can be mentally ill and islamophobe same time. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 If they can't deport the outsiders from their homeland, then they resort to killing them. So Muslims should stay in their homeland and not immigrate because of these extreme patriotic folks. Muslims staying in their homelands are getting killed daily by the western forces and dictators and terrorist groups. The western countries which previously colonized them and imposed their language and culture and killed them in millions, now cannot stand them in their country nor guarantee their safety. Hundreds of thousands of converts belong to the West, those are as much as their countries as any other native's. Same goes for generations of Muslims born and raised there. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Yes, it took western media 2-3 days to pick up this story in english. And even then the article is so poorly written, the attacker is 28 years old, then 47 in next paragraph. They don't think it's "solely" islamophobic, it doesn't mean that it isn't. Also most of the terrorists had history of crimes, in and out of prison, d--g abuse, mental illness etc None of those are ever brought up, it's always the religion to blame. Well in this case, fear of muslims made this French men to kill his neighbour. You can be mentally ill and islamophobe same time. Can you just stop? RIP to anybody who dies who isn't a terrorist. This includes muslims, immigrants, Frenchmen, policemen, normal civilians, etc. I hope, Lego, you can just stop with defending the Islam with all of your heart and instead just think peacefully and give condolences to the people who die, rather than bringing a 'they deserve it'-attitude. The pro-Islam propaganda you keep spreading here is not helping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Can you just stop? RIP to anybody who dies who isn't a terrorist. This includes muslims, immigrants, Frenchmen, policemen, normal civilians, etc. I hope, Lego, you can just stop with defending the Islam with all of your heart and instead just think peacefully and give condolences to the people who die, rather than bringing a 'they deserve it'-attitude. The pro-Islam propaganda you keep spreading here is not helping. Where did I ever say they deserve it? What does that quote have to do with what you are saying? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Can you just stop? RIP to anybody who dies who isn't a terrorist. This includes muslims, immigrants, Frenchmen, policemen, normal civilians, etc. I hope, Lego, you can just stop with defending the Islam with all of your heart and instead just think peacefully and give condolences to the people who die, rather than bringing a 'they deserve it'-attitude. The pro-Islam propaganda you keep spreading here is not helping. Yep, it's not only that. Because of one case (which isn't even proved if it was a islamphobic inspired murder) she things that Germany has a nazi problem when we most likely have fewest nazis in europe :air: oh yes germany toatlly has a nazi problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Muslims staying in their homelands are getting killed daily by the western forces and dictators and terrorist groups. The western countries which previously colonized them and imposed their language and culture and killed them in millions, now cannot stand them in their country nor guarantee their safety. Hundreds of thousands of converts belong to the West, those are as much as their countries as any other native's. Same goes for generations of Muslims born and raised there. - Most European countries have a lot of Muslims staying and asylum seekers getting asylum. You act as if the far-right wing parties are at power already, which is fortunately not the case (yet..). - The biggest danger for not just muslims but anybody staying in their homeland in the Arab world is their own government and terrorists which almost always are radical Islamic terrorists. Israel doesn't belong to 'western forces', Israel is in the Middle East. - The fact that they're ex-colonies isn't related to what is happening today. Governments change, mindsets change, the economy changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 - Most European countries have a lot of Muslims staying and asylum seekers getting asylum. You act as if the far-right wing parties are at power already, which is fortunately not the case (yet..). - The biggest danger for not just muslims but anybody staying in their homeland in the Arab world is their own government and terrorists which almost always are radical Islamic terrorists. Israel doesn't belong to 'western forces', Israel is in the Middle East. - The fact that they're ex-colonies isn't related to what is happening today. Governments change, mindsets change, the economy changes. I already said the dictators and terrorists are also the problem. And the drones. You forget to who I'm repying to, far-right-always-blame-immigrants-craig and monster5 who thinks deportation would solve the problem. I don't think mindsets changed that much everywhere. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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