Yanko 9,860 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Troy seems to be a bit of an opportunist these days. It always surprises me when a manager/songwriter/producer parts from a hugely talented, mega successful act and then proceeds to work with untalented/barely successful/one hit wonder type acts (not saying that Meghan is either of the former two, but the last one is debatable). It's like, is this their idea of revenge or something? I remember when Scott Storch worked with Xtina and then they had that bust up and he parted ways with her to make music for Paris Hilton. It's like...how do they think this is a better career move? If I was a manager, I personally wouldn't sign up with most new acts until they had proved themselves with a second album. In today's world, you can be yesterday's news so fast and what may seem like the best idea at the time will be the opposite in a few months. So many artists release their debut, are a huge success, and then nobody cares after that. That's why, if you find an artist like Gaga who still maintains acceptable success after a few albums, you never let them go, as they're worth their weight in gold these days. For those of you saying that we can't call Meghan a one hit wonder yet because she's only released 2 singles or she's had 2 hits or it's simply too soon to say...sometimes you just know. I've been keeping tabs on all the new acts from 2012 and onwards and the ones that I deemed one hit wonders, I was spot on for. Gotye, Passenger, Psy, fun., Carly Rae Jepsen, Lorde, Clean Bandit, Magic! and now Meghan. I can usually tell because their lead single is, most of the time, very different from what the public want, yet it somehow becomes a hit. But I know the public will not continue to support this sound or be interested in a whole album like this and thus, they're doomed to be one hit wonders. Now, I know that some of these acts went on to have more than one hit (Psy, fun, Carly, Lorde, Clean Bandit, Meghan), but here's the thing - the second hit doesn't usually go on to be remembered over time. I watch this music reviewer frequently and he has a section called One Hit Wonderland where he examines one hit wonders from years gone by and something he frequently brings up is that the act actually had a second hit but because the public have all but forgotten, it still makes them a one hit wonder. As he says: "They became consigned to long list of one hit wonders who technically have a second hit." I'm sure a lot of people would agree that Gentleman was nowhere near as popular, big or culturally impactful like Gangnam Style was. Same for Good Time vs. Call Me Maybe. Some Nights vs. We Are Young. Team vs. Royals and so on and so forth. And also, after the second hit, they fade away. Another thing you have to consider is that just because the artist is a big hit in your country, doesn't mean they're a hit worldwide. People like Lorde were massive in the US but not so abroad. Her debut sold 1.5 million in the US alone, but just 1.2 million from the rest of the world. And Team was only a hit in the US and her home country. And it can work in reverse as well. You've always got to look at things from an overall perspective. Lips Are Movin' has only been a top ten in English speaking countries and has flopped everywhere else. It'll only be a hit in the UK at the end of the month because its been on pre-order for a while now. lorde didnt fade away she's working on her next album and 1 hit wonders dont get grammys p.s lips are moving is platinum and it's #3 on us itunes rn so meghan isnt a 1 hit wonder she already has 2 hits plus her album will sell 200k first week and dear future husband is already gold without being a single (it's her next signle and it will smash) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsIGGYiggz 0 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 He's training meghan trainor to become a superstar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Little Phoney 658 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Tony and Meghan's jazz era is coming Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANUSLOVER96 260 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 good luck with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Tony and Meghan's jazz era is coming Nah. She will make a jazz era with Justin :toofloppy: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,665 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 lorde didnt fade away she's working on her next album and 1 hit wonders dont get grammys p.s lips are moving is platinum and it's #3 on us itunes rn so meghan isnt a 1 hit wonder she already has 2 hits plus her album will sell 200k first week and dear future husband is already gold without being a single (it's her next signle and it will smash) After Royals, she couldn't sell a single outwith the US, Canada, Australia and NZ. Team was the only slight hit she had after Royals. Glory And Gore and Tennis Court flopped. The album didn't sell spectacularly outside the US (it's barely sold more than ARTPOP). How does working on her next album make her not a 1 hit wonder? This is actually what I think could be even worse for her - I think she's waiting too long to release a follow-up. Trust me, the public is not going to be here for her stripped-back, talk-singing style singing about society's excesses. That's why she only had the one hit. And 1 hit wonders have always won Grammys. Look up the lists of "Top 10 One Hit Wonder Grammy Winners" and you'll see that the academy have got it wrong so many times. They've snubbed acts with longevity over one hit wonders on numerous occasions. Christoper Cross, Milli Vanilli, Starland Vocal Band, Paula Cole, A Taste Of Honey, Sir Mix-A-Lot...all these one hit wonders and many more have won a Grammy and then were never heard from again. Some people actually believe that not winning Grammys is actually the key to staying around (the curse of winning Album of the Year and then fading is well documented). Winning Grammys have never been an indication of future longevity in the music business and never will be. What's popular gets nominated, and if that's a one hit wonder, so be it. They've been careful not to actually let them win in recent years, though, but they can slip up occasionally. Again, you're using US data to support your argument, and I work from a worldwide perspective. You can't deny that Lips Are Movin' has had nowhere near the same impact as AATB. Her hype is dying fast, especially overseas where she doesn't promote. That's another thing about one hit wonders: they usually stay and promote in their home country/the US alone and on the very rare occasion they do venture abroad, they sing their one big hit and won't promote their new work. I was shocked that Meghan didn't perform her new single when she sang in the UK for the X Factor final. You're doomed to be a one hit wonder when you do that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathantj594 901 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Good luck with Carly Rae/Lorde 2.0 Troy! And Paula Abdul ain’t got [BLEEP] on me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koreku 2,387 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I'll be sure to tune in for ha makeup-less, sobbing Dope performance in 3 years. You don't deserve a point of view if the only thing you see is you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
destinyofself 1,006 Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Hes quite ugly bugly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Oyster 1,914 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Well. I'm not saying her music is bad. All I'm gonna say is that she seems pretty market-oriented, and I don't really think it is her idea. All about that money, all about that money. I think she will be a One Hit (or some) Wonder :P Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
touchmetouchme 0 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Not @ yall coming for Lorde! One hit wonders don't win Grammys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 What a step down.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nein 508 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Well, I knew she was just a one hit wonder, but now I can confirm it. Poor Meg. Do you even understand what a one hit wonder is LIPS ARE MOVIN is a freaking hit Thats already two hits for her and Dear Future Husband is already GOLD in the US and its not even a single yet :lmao: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Oyster 1,914 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Troy seems to be a bit of an opportunist these days. It always surprises me when a manager/songwriter/producer parts from a hugely talented, mega successful act and then proceeds to work with untalented/barely successful/one hit wonder type acts (not saying that Meghan is either of the former two, but the last one is debatable). It's like, is this their idea of revenge or something? I remember when Scott Storch worked with Xtina and then they had that bust up and he parted ways with her to make music for Paris Hilton. It's like...how do they think this is a better career move? If I was a manager, I personally wouldn't sign up with most new acts until they had proved themselves with a second album. In today's world, you can be yesterday's news so fast and what may seem like the best idea at the time will be the opposite in a few months. So many artists release their debut, are a huge success, and then nobody cares after that. That's why, if you find an artist like Gaga who still maintains acceptable success after a few albums, you never let them go, as they're worth their weight in gold these days. For those of you saying that we can't call Meghan a one hit wonder yet because she's only released 2 singles or she's had 2 hits or it's simply too soon to say...sometimes you just know. I've been keeping tabs on all the new acts from 2012 and onwards and the ones that I deemed one hit wonders, I was spot on for. Gotye, Passenger, Psy, fun., Carly Rae Jepsen, Lorde, Clean Bandit, Magic! and now Meghan. I can usually tell because their lead single is, most of the time, very different from what the public want, yet it somehow becomes a hit. But I know the public will not continue to support this sound or be interested in a whole album like this and thus, they're doomed to be one hit wonders. Now, I know that some of these acts went on to have more than one hit (Psy, fun, Carly, Lorde, Clean Bandit, Meghan), but here's the thing - the second hit doesn't usually go on to be remembered over time. I watch this music reviewer frequently and he has a section called One Hit Wonderland where he examines one hit wonders from years gone by and something he frequently brings up is that the act actually had a second hit but because the public have all but forgotten, it still makes them a one hit wonder. As he says: "They became consigned to long list of one hit wonders who technically have a second hit." I'm sure a lot of people would agree that Gentleman was nowhere near as popular, big or culturally impactful like Gangnam Style was. Same for Good Time vs. Call Me Maybe. Some Nights vs. We Are Young. Team vs. Royals and so on and so forth. And also, after the second hit, they fade away. Another thing you have to consider is that just because the artist is a big hit in your country, doesn't mean they're a hit worldwide. People like Lorde were massive in the US but not so abroad. Her debut sold 1.5 million in the US alone, but just 1.2 million from the rest of the world. And Team was only a hit in the US and her home country. And it can work in reverse as well. You've always got to look at things from an overall perspective. Lips Are Movin' has only been a top ten in English speaking countries and has flopped everywhere else. It'll only be a hit in the UK at the end of the month because its been on pre-order for a while now. Wow. We think exactly the same way. Although I'm not so sure about Lorde yet, because I agree on the Royals vs. Team but I'll still wait to her next album. You know, sometimes I think both the fame and the huge money earning that happens when artist have one hit can really make them (or the managers) try to make a slightly different copy of that song, and the artist will get stuck on that circle. I don't specially like her music but it seems like she actually is an self-artist, by that I mean she has the power to re-invent, although I think she would go for something more rock, which perhaps would still have her as a One hit wonder... :P But for example with Meghan, after 30 seconds into 'Lips Are Movin'' I could tell she would flop within her third single, because she used some of the words of 'All About The Bass' and also how she sings it if you know what I mean. It's like they re-use the same strategy of the song. And I say they because I'm not sure if she's a muppet. I think that being versatile is truly necessary in order to keep an artist image fresh and cool. You can't just give the same food all the time, that's boring. Look how GaGa went from Just Dance to Bad Romance. To me the songs are so different that it amazes me. And I think the timing is very important too. When GaGa had her first peak she had too many good singles to use in The Fame, and when she still had so much popularity she then put on a very different song out from another "album" and blew off the music industry. Then a summer song with Alejandro... And then again something totally different with 'Born This Way', with some buzz from Madonna comparisons, but it was okey because of the message in it... The activist stuff, how much she sold... All this added in popularity and she even released 'Judas', which to me in riskyness is like how 'G.U.Y.' "flopped", but she safed it 'TEOG'. So yeah... She did last long compared to other people but she has to re-invent soon and I blame Troy for ARTPOP's "failure". But also GaGa for letting them choose Applause, which was supposed to be the last single... Breaking DWUW's potential, and idk, she didn't really care for her popularity, but I guess if that's what she want's then there's nothing to do with it :P She'll come back :) As Madonna did (even tho' I didn't want to mention how Madonna wasn't popular for a good time too) Edit: 'Applause' was on point, fresh and different for GaGa and it did well. People were ready for the second single but since it didn't get a music video the songs' potential for success got broken. She then had all the problems with management, got betrayed, and understood she would just do this and use all the budget for ARTPOP and give us one of her best well-made and detailed videos she could give us. She did choose both G.U.Y. and Venus (why MANiCURE tho) for us the fans because she knew those were favs. And then... Nothing more happened. She chose to do other things (C2C)... I'm really excited to see what she's gonna do. Keep making sleepy, boring but good music (sorrynotsorryC2C) or try something fresh, young and different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noah X 5,250 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 what a disgusting money-hopping b---h. he's gotta ditch her later Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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