Cocaine Heart 4,768 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 I do think that there is more violence done in the name of Islam at this moment in time, but I think that's just because there are huge areas of Islam that are stuck where Christians were stuck in the Dark Ages, and they will eventually (hopefully) come out of that. It took centuries for christianity to evolve to a more civilized state. Unfortunately we don't have the time for that to happen, especially in the age where nuclear weapons are at play. We going to boo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Hundred and not them taken out of context, its blatantly spelled out within Quran and the Hadith. Are you seriously asking for the receipts of those who are killed in the name of islam. I am aware that religious extremists are found within every religion, the difference is the scale on which it happens. yeah I asked reciepts because the number of killed as a result of Western invasion of Middle East is bigger than the number of those killed by ISIS, they didn't kill millions, as you claim, although people are not just numbers and killing of any innocent human being is wrong. Didn't Bush say "Jesus told me to invade Iraq"? You first said that difference is in that other (extremists) don't kill in big number and I gave you examples where they certainly do and did. Media is now more focused on "islamic" terrorism because West is involved in war in ME, if these things would happen in a country they have no interest in, media wouldn't bother to report it. Verses and hadiths cannot be collected as you wish, you need to learn classical Arabic first and tafsir and which hadith is authentic and which not, and chains of narration etc. to be able to claim "this is what Islam preaches". There are real scholars in islam and those "self-learned" who don't know **** and who suffer from some mental disorder. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 yeah I asked reciepts because the number of killed as a result of Western invasion of Middle East is bigger than the number of those killed by ISIS That's not a holy war, that's a war for oil "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 That's not a holy war, that's a war for oil FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 Well it also fits well into Old Testament Christianity. I don't think we can definitely say that Islam promotes violence more than Christianity. (???) Both have strong peaceful messages too, and yet tremendous violence has been done in the name of both religions. I do think that there is more violence done in the name of Islam at this moment in time, but I think that's just because there are huge areas of Islam that are stuck where Christians were stuck in the Dark Ages, and they will eventually (hopefully) come out of that. First of all the Old Testament is found in Christianity and Judaism. So you can say that Islam doesn't provoke more violence than Christianity and Judaism. Though there is violence in the Old Testament , there are enough verses against it. "שָלוֹ× שָלוֹ× לָרָ×—וֹק וְ×υ·Ã—§Ã–¸Ã–¼Ã—¨Ã—•Ö¹Ã—‘" "Peace, peace to the distant and the close" And even the word שָ×לוֹ× (shalom) means peace and it's rooted in the Hebrew Bible and is far used in many languages. Funny thing as you mention the Dark Ages is that Arabs where far more developed during that time unlike the Christians in Europe. Scary how things can change. Did Bush reall said that? I never had much sympathy for him ,but ew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 First of all the Old Testament is found in Christianity and Judaism. So you can say that Islam doesn't provoke more violence than Christianity and Judaism. Though there is violence in the Old Testament , there are enough verses against it. "שָלוֹ× שָלוֹ× לָרָ×—וֹק וְ×υ·Ã—§Ã–¸Ã–¼Ã—¨Ã—•Ö¹Ã—‘" "Peace, peace to the distant and the close" And even the word שָ×לוֹ× (shalom) means peace and it's rooted in the Hebrew Bible. Funny thing as you mention the Dark Ages is that Arabs where far more developed during that time unlike the Christians in Europe. Scary how things can change. Did Bush reall said that? I never had much sympathy for him ,but ew He actually said when campaigning for president that he was going to "get Saddam" because "he tried to kill my daddy", then he said "God told me to invade Iraq", and you know about CIA torture report and raping of Iraqi boys in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. That image is satire. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanMonster 185 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 This is scary but we need to remember that the world would come together and flatten the crap out of them if they started to invade European countries. There is no way that the rest of world would stand for this - as much as I hate weapons like bombs, the rest of the world has weapons that could completely wipe them out before we even blink. I think we need to remain calm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted December 28, 2014 Author Share Posted December 28, 2014 He actually said when campaigning for president that he was going to "get Saddam" because "he tried to kill my daddy", then he said "God told me to invade Iraq", and you know about CIA torture report and raping of Iraqi boys in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. That image is satire. What mess. That man isn't better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoFameMonster 1,592 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 oh please. Delusional much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora 162 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 This is so ****ing scary even though they're delusional af. I just want them all to be nuked and RID of the world. :cry: Stahp. :Cry: They BETTER not come for Ireland!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raikou 1,169 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 If they really tried it, we'd have them removed from the planet. The west can be VERY nasty when it wants to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigmatica 0 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 The BIBLE would save and educate them LITERALY Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursula Buffay 73 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Is there really an image to ruin? Imo this fits perfectly with the image of Islam. +1 Time to stop saying bad muslims ruin it for good muslims tbh.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 This is so ****ing scary even though they're delusional af. I just want them all to be nuked and RID of the world. :cry: Stahp. :Cry: They BETTER not come for Ireland!! It's just an empty talk, they're full of **** as always, no need to panic. They'll kill each other soon. The BIBLE would save and educate them LITERALY http://youtube.com/watch?v=zGz7L0wwOhE FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora 162 Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 The Western World BETTER come through an eradicate these whack b---hes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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