ISIS Says It Will Conquer Europe Soon and kill hundred of millions

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There are some religions that support science and accept all other religions as sent from God to people of a certain period in time ,contrary to what Islam or Christianity teach

 

There are definitely spiritual movements that are open and loving.

Sadly not the main ones who brought and keep bringing us wars, destruction and intolerance.

So disgusting!

[Melech 9,900]

Actually not all religions and their adherents are violent or dumb. There are some religions that support science and accept all other religions as sent from God to people of a certain period in time ,contrary to what Islam or Christianity teach

 

That's not true. You can't generalize Christianity (and I'm sure Islam too) like that. Do you know how many denominations are within Christianity or even Protestantism? 

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That's not true. You can't generalize Christianity (and I'm sure Islam too) like that. Do you know how many denominations are within Christianity or even Protestantism?

I wasn't talking about Pentecostal Protestanism

Christianity in general isn't violent at all. It promotes peace and love for EVERYBODY.A lot adherents might just be too dumb to get that. But unbelievers still go to hell so most people alive today are doomed which makes me not like it that much.

Roman Catholicism on the other hand :wtf:

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Actually not all religions and their adherents are violent or dumb. There are some religions that support science and accept all other religions as sent from God to people of a certain period in time ,contrary to what Islam or Christianity teach

Islam is not against science. Check this BBC Documentary when you have time.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qL41gX0fJng

Physicist Jim Al-Khalili travels through Syria, Iran, Tunisia and Spain to tell the story of the great leap in scientific knowledge that took place in the Islamic world between the 8th and 14th centuries.

Its legacy is tangible, with terms like algebra, algorithm and alkali all being Arabic in origin and at the very heart of modern science - there would be no modern mathematics or physics without algebra, no computers without algorithms and no chemistry without alkalis.

From the great mathematician Al-Khwarizmi, who did much to establish the mathematical tradition we now know as algebra, to Ibn Sina, a pioneer of early medicine whose Canon of Medicine was still in use as recently as the 19th century, he pieces together a remarkable story of the often-overlooked achievements of the early medieval Islamic scientists.

He then visits Italy to see how those Islamic ideas permeated into the West and ultimately helped shape the works of the great European astronomer Copernicus, and investigates why science in the Islamic world appeared to go into decline after the 16th and 17th centuries, only for it to re-emerge in the present day.

Al-Khalili ends his journey in the Royan Institute in the Iranian capital Tehran, looking at how science is now regarded in the Islamic world.

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Islam is not against science. Check this BBC Documentary when you have time.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=qL41gX0fJng

I'm sorry. Sometimes I pick the wrong word while expressing myself. I wanted to say that Islam and Christianity tolerate science as long it doesnt contradict their teachings. ( See Theory of Evolution).

Apart from that, Islam and Christianity contradict science. Surah 18:84-87 of the Holy Quran says Dhul Qarnayn ( Alexander The Great) went so far in the West that he found the place where the sun sets, and according to that verse he saw it setting in a spring of murky water I believe. He also found people living around that place.

And since Mohammad himself according to certain hadeeth said the same, it leaves no room for reinterpretation. This is just one example of a religious book being unscientific.

The only thing more antiscientific than the Quran is the Bible

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Local flops :smh:

[lego 44,165]

Islam and Christianity tolerate science as long it doesnt contradict their teachings. See Theory of Evolution

Islam and Christianity contradict science. Surah 18:84-87 says Dhul Qarnayn ( Alexander The Great) went so far in the West that he found the place where the sun sets, and according to that verse he saw it setting in a sprink of murky water I believe. He also found people living around that place.

And since Mohammad himself according to certain hadeeth said the same, it leaves no room for reinterpretation. This is just one example of a religious book being unscientific.

The only thing more antiscientific than the Quran is the Bible

There is no realy evidence that Dhul Qarnayn would be Alexander the Great, that is just speculation of some people.

18:83 And they ask thee about Dhu-l-qarnain. Say: I will recite to you an account of him.

18:84 Truly We established him in the land and granted him means of access to everything;

18:85 So he followed a course.

18:86 Until, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it going down into a black sea, and found by it a people. We said: O Dhu-l-qarnain, either punish them or do them a benefit.

18:87 He said: As for him who is unjust, we shall chastise him, then he will be returned to his Lord, and He will chastise him with an exemplary chastisement.

"The interpretation of “the sun setting in a spring of black muddy waterâ€, in the books of Tafseer is the following: Dhul-Qarnain went towards the direction of the West until he reached the farthest place in the West. There he found as if the sun was setting in a black muddy water. If a person among ourselves stands at the shore (sea-side) at sun set, he will see the sun as if it is falling into the sea, or setting into the sea.

But the reality is otherwise, when the sun sets in one place, it is still rising on another place

Therefore, what is meant by the verse “he found the sun setting in a muddy water†means when someone looks at it, that is what he/she would think and see.

Perhaps, Dhul-Qarnain arrived to a place where a river in deluge meets with the sea. The water of the river may contain mud, and when the sun sets, it would appear to a person looking at it as if it sets in a muddy water.

For more information about this subject you can refer to Tafseer books (books about the interpretation of the meaning of the Holy Qur'an)."

And no one claims that Qur'an is a scientific book. But it does encourage its followers to seek knowledge of all kinds, that's why Muslim and Arab world brought many known scientists and discoveries when Islam was at its peak (read the quote in post above). Now they're torn with wars and poverty, but still you can find some Pakistani Nobel laureates for chemistry and physics.

There is more to science than just theory of evolution.

It's one thing if you try to prove that Qur'an is not compatible with science or that it contains errors, as you don' believe in it and it's totally another thing to claim that Islam is against science. History proves otherwise.

We went way off topic though.

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I'd say Islam's image in the Anglo-American world was fine until about 1970.

It took a hit with Palestinian terrorist incidents like the killing of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympics, and the Iranian revolution and US embassy hostage crisis in 1979.

 

But that's nothing compared to Al Quada and ISIS. Simply reporting their acts objectively is enough to hurt Islam's brand.

What more is needed? In fact, much of the additional commentary we get is liberal apologetics.

[Melech 9,900]

I'd say Islam's image in the Anglo-American world was fine until about 1970.

It took a hit with Palestinian terrorist incidents like the killing of Israeli athletes at the 1972 Olympics, and the Iranian revolution and US embassy hostage crisis in 1979.

 

But that's nothing compared to Al Quada and ISIS. Simply reporting their acts objectively is enough to hurt Islam's brand.

What more is needed? In fact, much of the additional commentary we get is liberal apologetics.

omg my mum was in Munich that year and  rooted for them :air: but she barely remembers since she was 12

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There is no realy evidence that Dhul Qarnayn would be Alexander the Great, that is just speculation of some people.

And no one claims that Qur'an is a scientific book. But it does encourage its followers to seek knowledge of all kinds, that's why Muslim and Arab world brought many known scientists and discoveries when Islam was at its peak (read the quote in post above). Now they're torn with wars and poverty, but still you can find some Pakistani Nobel laureates for chemistry and physics.

There is more to science than just theory of evolution.

It's one thing if you try to prove that Qur'an is not compatible with science or that it contains errors, as you don' believe in it and it's totally another thing to claim that Islam is against science. History proves otherwise.

We went way off topic though.

Muhammad is far more authoritative when it comes to interpreting the Quran, don't you think?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eA84wWyGcj8

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There is no realy evidence that Dhul Qarnayn would be Alexander the Great, that is just speculation of some people.

 

 

And no one claims that Qur'an is a scientific book. But it does encourage its followers to seek knowledge of all kinds, that's why Muslim and Arab world brought many known scientists and discoveries when Islam was at its peak (read the quote in post above). Now they're torn with wars and poverty, but still you can find some Pakistani Nobel laureates for chemistry and physics.

There is more to science than just theory of evolution.

It's one thing if you try to prove that Qur'an is not compatible with science or that it contains errors, as you don' believe in it and it's totally another thing to claim that Islam is against science. History proves otherwise.

We went way off topic though.

World Jewish population: 16,000,000.

Number of Jewish Nobel laureates: 198.

 

World Islamic population: 1,600,000,000.

Number of Muslim Nobel laureates: 11.

 

Let's not.  :air:

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World Jewish population: 16,000,000.

Number of Jewish Nobel laureates: 198.

World Islamic population: 1,600,000,000.

Number of Muslim Nobel laureates: 11.

Let's not. :air:

They started awarding Nobel Prizes in the beginning of the 20th century tho. You're forgetting thousands of scientists that lived way earlier :air:

[Melech 9,900]

World Jewish population: 16,000,000.

Number of Jewish Nobel laureates: 198.

 

World Islamic population: 1,600,000,000.

Number of Muslim Nobel laureates: 11.

 

Let's not.  :air:

Einstein  

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They started awarding Nobel Prizes in the beginning of the 20th century tho. You're forgetting thousands of scientists that lived way earlier :air:

We're living in the 21st century, not the 12th. 

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Conquer my cock  .i. 

mess :air: