Cody Draco 2,531 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 same tho haha, I'm not really in tune as well...I just presumed (that like a majority of this site) you were were gay i think it's more in Iggy's /Macklemore's case that their music seems to be favored more, while their work is not the best hiphop has to offer. But a lot of award shows seem to favor them, and it makes the urban community feel like hiphop lost in a way their purpose...its not about the genre, its about the deep rooted emotions from the community tied to the genre that make this so complex But just do your thing with hiphop (god this is so complex ) It really is complex and I want to understand all sides better. I can see why Macklemore had a few popular songs since they were more pop radio ready than (for example) a Meek Mill track. http://youtu.be/S8gfqs1-NuE So I think that Iggy and Macklemore should've been placed in the pop categories since their music was for pop stations not hip-hop stations. Same thing goes for Nicki songs that are more Pills N Potions/Bed of Lies than Roman's Revenge/Did It On Em/Want Some More. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 If you think white guilt is BS, read this first person article from Salon: http://www.salon.com/2000/02/17/guilty/ Like Willy said to you though, you're viewing this topic like every race is on an equal playing ground when we're not, we ARE FAR from that. She summarises about boxes, she's right... we need to step out of our "boxes" but how can we all step out of a box and pretend we're being treated equally when we're not? I don't feel guilt but I recognize I have advantages of being white, just like I'm aware there are advantages to being straight <-- of course on a completely different scale, at least I can't be discriminated against by society over one glance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Draco 2,531 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I've lost interest anyways. Its just going to be the same old crying "Oh, shes using black culture! how dare she !! :(((((" All coming from the same chick who tried to reclaim the F word, has thrown homophobic slurs, made fun of a Lily's miscarriage, and said women enjoyed Bill Cosby raping them. Name dropping Iggy just helps artists attain some sort of attention anyways. If you've lost interest then why are you still posting in this thread and assuming what Azealia said instead of actually watching the interview and commenting on it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,772 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 It really is complex and I want to understand all sides better. I can see why Macklemore had a few popular songs since they were more pop radio ready than (for example) a Meek Mill track. http://youtu.be/S8gfqs1-NuE So I think that Iggy and Macklemore should've been placed in the pop categories since their music was for pop stations not hip-hop stations. Same thing goes for Nicki songs that are more Pills N Potions/Bed of Lies than Roman's Revenge/Did It On Em/Want Some More. I agree with that. Nicki, azelea and Macklemore should be placed under pop, its way too mainstream sounding (and due their large fanbases) to be called hiphop. I gotta say pop music can be anything, it everything that is current...so yeah...that includes hip-hop (altho I'd call that hip-pop) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SissyFromSpace 20,883 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 i'm so glad i don't see the world like you Just because I don't lick Azealia's ass and agree to her **** doesn't mean I'm blinded by ignorance. Barbie elitist - Weaboo - Sissy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexxx 2,244 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Omg the TI part :lmao: she sounds just like him Lady Gaga/ Madonna/Lana /Azealia Banks/ Jazmine Sullivan/ DEEE-LITE/ Moko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inuborg 4,136 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Just because I don't lick Azealia's ass and agree to her **** doesn't mean I'm blinded by ignorance. Its not just that. She touches on a lot of deep route black issues (something you admitted you don't care about) and identity miss communications. And is it Iggy's fault in particular? No, she's just benefiting from white privilege like the thousands of others. But its a constant issue for Azealia because people out side of the stan world (for now or possibly forever) think of her as the other Azalea because the other one appeals to pop and the other one doesn't. But as Rosenberg said and a lot of people agree, bar for bar, track for track, Azealia is the more talented artist. I root for you. I love you. You, you, you, you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staryu 6,162 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I've lost interest anyways. Its just going to be the same old crying "Oh, shes using black culture! how dare she !! :(((((" All coming from the same chick who tried to reclaim the F word, has thrown homophobic slurs, made fun of a Lily's miscarriage, and said women enjoyed Bill Cosby raping them. Name dropping Iggy just helps artists attain some sort of attention anyways. *doesn't watch the actual interview* *starts b---hing about it* Alright. Good for you. If you've lost interest then why are you still posting in this thread and assuming what Azealia said instead of actually watching the interview and commenting on it? Seems like he enjoys wasting his time and ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SissyFromSpace 20,883 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Its not just that. She touches on a lot of deep route black issues (something you admitted you don't care about) Stopped @ these false accusations here. + I'm sorry but her comment is invalid if she's friends with ****ing LIL DEBBIE who is just...the female riff raff. If you want to complain about black culture being parodied, b---h at Lil Debbie and Riff Raff. Barbie elitist - Weaboo - Sissy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody Draco 2,531 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 *doesn't watch the actual interview* *starts b---hing about it* Alright. Good for you. Seems like he enjoys wasting his time and ours. In my opinion what he has done in this thread is exactly what deserves warning points, but I'm gonna forget he even has commented in her and I'm just gonna continue getting my education. It's sad that we seem to care more about race issues and how people feel about them than he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASTROVEGA 108 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I love how passionate she is about her beliefs and the bravery she has to speak up. Also, I guess i've never heard her talk much because I am living for her accent and the hint of Dominican in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inuborg 4,136 Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share Posted December 19, 2014 Stopped @ these false accusations here. + I'm sorry but her comment is invalid if she's friends with ****ing LIL DEBBIE who is just...the female riff raff. If you want to complain about black culture being parodied, b---h at Lil Debbie and Riff Raff. You would stop at the first damn sentence I root for you. I love you. You, you, you, you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Angel 128 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 I really liked this interview and it kind of warms me up to Azealia again. With her talking about Black culture, Eric Garner/Trayvon Martin, etc., and tearing up kinda showed that this specific topic is truly important to her, as it is to a lot of us. I want some people to be a Black Hip-Hop fan for one day to see how they feel about this situation. It's so nerve-wracking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexxx 2,244 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 She is so smart and has valid points in her statements. Unlike when some male artists say crap to make themselves seem intelligent :awkney: Lady Gaga/ Madonna/Lana /Azealia Banks/ Jazmine Sullivan/ DEEE-LITE/ Moko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 So I think that Iggy and Macklemore should've been placed in the pop categories since their music was for pop stations not hip-hop stations. Same thing goes for Nicki songs that are more Pills N Potions/Bed of Lies than Roman's Revenge/Did It On Em/Want Some More. On the other hand, there is a long s-xist history in rock of dismissing rock made by women as pop and therefore lessor. Female = pop = inferior is a dangerous equation. Same in country, some guys sneered at Dolly Parton and Shania Twain as not real country at various times. When it was black MEN blurring the pop-rap boundary and commercializing hip-hop, it wasn't a big deal. Kanye sampling Daft Punk for a #1 smash etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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