lego 44,165 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Israel has banned Norwegian doctor and human rights activist Mads Gilbert from entering Gaza for lifeIsrael shuts Dr Gilbert out from Gaza for lifeA Norwegian doctor, Mads Gilbert, has been hit with a lifetime ban from entering Gaza by the Israeli government.Israeli authorities cited security reasons for shutting Doctor Gilbert out from the Gaza Strip.The Norwegian 67-year-old has travelled to and from Gaza to treat Palestinians. This summer, the chief physician who lives and works in northern Norway, was back working at Shifa hospital, Gaza, where he spend more than 50 days treating many of the 11,000 injured.The doctor was attempting to return to the region in October to help in the hospital and was stopped by Israeli officials from entering.Gilbert says: “When we came back to the Erez border station, the Israeli soldiers told me that I could not go in to Gaza.†Now the Israeli government is stating that Gilbert is banned for security reasons, according to an email from the Norwegian embassy in Tel Aviv. The embassy took up the case on Gilbert's behalf after he was refused entry last month. Norway's Secretary of State, BÃ¥rd Glad Pedersen, said to VG: “From the Norwegian perspective, we have raised Gilbert's exclusion from Gaza and asked Israel to change their decision. The humanitarian situation in Gaza is still difficult and there is a need for all health workers.†Gilbert himself believes the decision is connected to his critical comments against the state of Israel. The outspoken peace activist wrote a letter to the global media in July this year in which he spoke about the extreme conditions at the Gaza hospital where he worked. Who is doctor Mads Gilbert? Born in Oslo, 1947. Head physician specializing in anesthesiology at University Hospital of North Norway. Over 30 years working in international conflict areas, especially Gaza. Awards include Fritt Ords Honorary Prize (2009). Appointed Commander to the Order of St Olaf (2013). Received PhD at University of Iowa. Norwegian sourcehttp://www.thelocal.no/20141114/israel-shuts-gilbert-out-from-gaza-for-life Solidarity, Not Pity Gilbert made it clear that his work as a medical professional cannot be doneâ€â€the Palestinian people cannot live healthy, yet alone free, livesâ€â€while Israel continues its illegal siege and occupation. “As a doctor, my prescription is very clear. Number one, stop the bombing, and that means stop Israel from bombing civilians and indiscriminately hitting families. Number two, lift the siege. And number three, find a political solution,†he stated. - At present, the US provides Israel with over $3.1 billion of military aid per year. In the past 52 years, over $100 billion US tax dollars have been given to the country in military aid alone. “You are the change-makers,†Gilbert told American readers. “The key to the change when it comes to the occupation of Palestine lies in the United States.†“Solidarity, not pity,†he said, is the solution. ------------------------ While volunteering at al-Shifa Hospital in July, Gilbert wrote a letter to the global media describing in graphic detail the unspeakable horrors the Israeli military was carrying out. “This is a complete disaster,†he remarked, calling the situation in Gaza “the worst man-made disaster†he could think of. “There are injuries you just don’t want to see in this world.†Furthermore, in an interview during the Israeli aggression, the doctor said that the “vast majority†of victims were women, children, and male civilians, adding that among the hundreds of patients he had seen at that point, only two had been fighters. “These numbers are contradictory to everything Israel says,†he reported. Gilbert also directed a message to US President Barack Obama, writing “Mr. Obama, do you have a heart? I invite you to spend one night – just one night – with us in al-Shifa. " "I am convinced, 100 percent, it would change history. Nobody with a heart could ever walk away from a night in Shifa without being determined to end the slaughter of the Palestinian people.†http://mondoweiss.net/2014/11/renowned-activist-entering and some people here say they(Palestinians) don't live under siege.Mads Gilbert wants to return to IsraelNorwegian Doctor Mads Gilbert has vowed to overturn his Israel ban and return to Gaza to help victims of the troubles, it was reported on Friday.Following the announcement that Gilbert was forbidden entry to Gaza for life by the Israeli government, the doctor has gone on record to declare he will fight to return to a conflict zone he has been working in for more than 30 years.Israel regards the 67-year-old Norwegian as a threat to their nation's security, but doctor Gilbert pleads his innocence.“I’m a doctor, I’m no security threat. I have done nothing wrong, I have never broken Israeli law or taken part in illegal activities. I have had valid travel documents from the state of Israel.†said Gilbert to NRK.http://www.thelocal.no/20141114/mads-gilbert-vows-to-return-to-israel FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 But why him specifically? inb4 israelis saying he was a member of Hamas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 But why him specifically? inb4 israelis saying he was a member of Hamas "Security reasons" aka don't you dare speak about victims in Gaza or criticize Israeli government or we ban you for life. How dare he save lives of those "nasty little snakes", how some Israeli MP called Palestinians. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UC PiXELVISION 353 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 But why him specifically? inb4 israelis saying he was a member of Hamas I can see it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazgul 186 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 this reminded me of MV Mavi Marmara incident Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolev 867 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 But why him specifically? inb4 israelis saying he was a member of Hamas Our dear Dr. Gilbert has became Hamas' unofficial spokeperson in the recent years and has been spreading lies over Israeli use of radio-active weapons and testing them over Gaza. You can see him here giving an Interview for Iran's official news channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-UYansyAec I'm sure you'd also like to know that the same Dr. Gilbert has said that Al-Qaeada is right for attacking the US and has exspressed support for the 9/11 attacks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 Our dear Dr. Gilbert has became Hamas' unofficial spokeperson in the recent years and has been spreading lies over Israeli use of radio-active weapons and testing them over Gaza. You can see him here giving an Interview for Iran's official news channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-UYansyAec I'm sure you'd also like to know that the same Dr. Gilbert has said that Al-Qaeada is right for attacking the US and has exspressed support for the 9/11 attacks. There are no lies in that video. He has no connection with Hamas. As usual Zionist hasbara trolls try to smear the name of respectable doctor who saved so many lives. You will dig up ANYTHING just to justify idiotic decision of your government. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UC PiXELVISION 353 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Our dear Dr. Gilbert has became Hamas' unofficial spokeperson in the recent years and has been spreading lies over Israeli use of radio-active weapons and testing them over Gaza. You can see him here giving an Interview for Iran's official news channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-UYansyAec I'm sure you'd also like to know that the same Dr. Gilbert has said that Al-Qaeada is right for attacking the US and has exspressed support for the 9/11 attacks. Oh my god I was right, it happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXCXSXE 0 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Don't you think this belongs in the Israel-Palestine thread? Oh my god I was right, it happened. He was actually quoted as saying that about the 9/11 attacks being justified due to Western policy... Not that that justifies him being blocked from entering, which makes me think there is something else. We will see in the coming days I guess. My guess is it has something to do with his contacts in Gaza within groups deemed terrorist organizations, and I'm not sure if I think thats a valid reason either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 14, 2014 Author Share Posted November 14, 2014 Don't you think this belongs in the Israel-Palestine thread? He was actually quoted as saying that about the 9/11 attacks being justified due to Western policy... Not that that justifies him being blocked from entering, which makes me think there is something else. We will see in the coming days I guess. My guess is it has something to do with his contacts in Gaza within groups deemed terrorist organizations, and I'm not sure if I think thats a valid reason either. I have been searching for that quote and there is is literally no real evidence that he said that. No video of him actually saying that. There is article in norwegian, which may as well be invented interview, and unless you speak well norwegian you should tell the whole context of what he said. And even if it's true, it has nothing to do with Israel and they are just butthurt cause their war crimes were exposed by this great man. He didn't break any law, as he said, and he is needed there for medical reasons. Israeli state showing their inhumanity once again. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXCXSXE 0 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I have been searching for that quote and there is is literally no real evidence that he said that. No video of him actually saying that. There is article in norwegian, which may as well be invented interview, and unless you speak well norwegian you should tell the whole context of what he said. And even if it's true, it has nothing to do with Israel and they are just butthurt cause their war crimes were exposed by this great man. He didn't break any law, as he said, and he is needed there for medical reasons. Israeli state showing their inhumanity once again. If we needed videos to confirm everything, this entire debate would be very different... The quote has been reported by Haaretz, and the independent, as well as a letter he wrote with some known anti-semites. That's what makes me think this might be about who he's associated with or what his motives are... Once again, not sure if that's a good enough reason, but I'm sure this will be explored further in the coming days. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-bars-outspoken-norwegian-doctor-mads-gilbert-from-entering-the-gaza-strip-9862340.html http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.626441 First and hopefully last time I see someone use "war crimes" and "butthurt" in the same sentence. Aaaand you already posted this in the Israel-Palestine thread, so I'm not sure why we're discussing it here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted November 15, 2014 Author Share Posted November 15, 2014 If we needed videos to confirm everything, this entire debate would be very different... The quote has been reported by Haaretz, and the independent, as well as a letter he wrote with some known anti-semites. That's what makes me think this might be about who he's associated with or what his motives are... Once again, not sure if that's a good enough reason, but I'm sure this will be explored further in the coming days. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-bars-outspoken-norwegian-doctor-mads-gilbert-from-entering-the-gaza-strip-9862340.html http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.626441 First and hopefully last time I see someone use "war crimes" and "butthurt" in the same sentence. Aaaand you already posted this in the Israel-Palestine thread, so I'm not sure why we're discussing it here. Yes and both Haaretz and Independent are quoting Dagbladet as their source, without a proper context and none of us speak Norwegian. Printed interviews are easy to fake and dr Gilbert had so many video appearances, interviews, just type his name in youtube. It's interesting that no one ever asked him about that in 13 years. And again, as I said, even if it's true, it doesn't have anything to do with Israel or his work as a doctor. It's just a cheap attempt to smear his reputation. What are his motives??? If you read his credentials and his history, he is international renown for his philanthropic work and he has been going to Gaza since 2008, he was busy saving lives during Israel’s "operation cast lead". I think it's quite clear what his motives are. He just gained popularity on social media since last summer attack on Gaza, since he was asking for ending of siege and opening borders so the wounded would get help since hospitals in Gaza didn't have electricity nor proper equipment. It's disgraceful that Israel is even deciding who is going in and out of Palestinian land. Yes I posted in other thread, but this is also Norwegian issue and their relations with Israel might suffer because of that. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXCXSXE 0 Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 Yes and both Haaretz and Independent are quoting Dagbladet as their source, without a proper context and none of us speak Norwegian. Printed interviews are easy to fake and dr Gilbert had so many video appearances, interviews, just type his name in youtube. It's interesting that no one ever asked him about that in 13 years. And again, as I said, even if it's true, it doesn't have anything to do with Israel or his work as a doctor. It's just a cheap attempt to smear his reputation. What are his motives??? If you read his credentials and his history, he is international renown for his philanthropic work and he has been going to Gaza since 2008, he was busy saving lives during Israel’s "operation cast lead". I think it's quite clear what his motives are. He just gained popularity on social media since last summer attack on Gaza, since he was asking for ending of siege and opening borders so the wounded would get help since hospitals in Gaza didn't have electricity nor proper equipment. It's disgraceful that Israel is even deciding who is going in and out of Palestinian land. Yes I posted in other thread, but this is also Norwegian issue and their relations with Israel might suffer because of that. Not gonna comment on any of that until we know more, but I expect there will be some statement on this in the near future. Definitely worth asking more questions about! I don't think this requires a whole other thread. It's pretty clear what you want to discuss on this issue from your comments and the articles you cited. Norweigan-Israeli relations are barely referred to in a single quote, while the Israel-Palestine conflict is mentioned several times... It might seem like I'm splitting hairs here, but you've got to admit you do this a lot. I'm no mod, but I think you know this belongs in the stickied thread, seeing as you posted the exact same story there before making this new thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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