Melech 9,900 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 As Berliners watch 8,000 balloons being released into the night sky this evening, old divisions between east and west will symbolically vanish into thin air with them. Yet the runup to the festivities has already served up plenty of reminders that, 25 years after the fall of the wall that divided the city for three decades, the scars of history are hurting more than ever. Speaking at a symposium near the Brandenburg Gate yesterday morning, former Soviet president Mikhail Gorbachev warned that the world was “on the brink of a new cold war†and strongly criticised the west for having sown the seeds of the current crisis by mishandling the fallout from the collapse of the iron curtain. “Instead of building new mechanisms and institutions of European security and pursuing a major demilitarisation of European politics … the west, and particularly the United States, declared victory in the cold war,†said the man behind the Soviet Union’s glasnost and perestroika reforms. “Euphoria and triumphalism went to the heads of western leaders. Taking advantage of Russia’s weakening and the lack of a counterweight, they claimed monopoly leadership and domination in the world.†The enlargement of Nato, Kosovo, missile defence plans and wars in the Middle East had led to a “collapse of trustâ€, said Gorbachev, now 83. “To put it metaphorically, a blister has now turned into a bloody, festering wound.†Previously an outspoken critic of Vladimir Putin, Gorbachev backed the current Russian president’s stance over Ukraine, urging western leaders to “consider carefully†Putin’s recent remarks at the Valdai forum : “Despite the harshness of his criticism of the west, and of the United States in particular, I see in his speech a desire to find a way to lower tensions and ultimately to build a new basis for partnership.†Such strong words of criticism, voiced by the man still affectionately known as “Gorbi†to many in Germany, came at the end of a week which has seen the value of the rouble tumbling dramatically as a result of western sanctions. Friday afternoon had seen another reminder of the old east-west tensions still running through Germany when the usually rather staid proceedings of the Bundestag were shaken up by a musical guest performance. Veteran songwriter Wolf Biermann, who was kicked out of the GDR in 1976, performed a protest song called Ermutigung (Encouragement) and took a number of swipes at politicians from Die Linke (the Left party), successors to East Germany’s ruling party, the SED. “Your punishment is to have to listen to me here – enjoyâ€, Biermann said, while gesturing towards the leftwing parliamentarians. He went on to describe Die Linke MPs as “dragon spawn†and “the miserable dregs of something that had luckily been overcomeâ€. Only last week German president Joachim Gauck, a former head of the Stasi archives, had questioned whether the Left party had “really distanced itself from the ideas the SED once had about repression of peopleâ€. Die Linke is on the verge of gaining its first state premier, in the Thuringia region, something Gauck said “people of my age who lived through the GDR find quite hard to acceptâ€. At the very least, such score-settling should stop this weekend’s festivities, taking place under the motto “courage for freedomâ€, from turning into a merely nostalgic affair. Events in Berlin will mark the culmination of a remarkable chain of events which resulted in the opening of border checkpoints in Berlin on the night of 9 November 1989. At least 138 people died trying to cross the inner-German border in the capital, more than 1,000 in the country as a whole, in the postwar years. A host of historic key players and celebrities have already dodged a nationwide train strike in Germany to descend on the capital. Yesterday evening German chancellor Angela Merkel, who grew up in East Germany, attended a memorial concert at the Berliner Ensemble, the theatre founded by the playwright Bertolt Brecht. On Sunday, Merkel will open a new exhibition centre at Bernauer Strasse, near the Bornholmer Strasse checkpoint where the then 35-year-old chancellor crossed over to the west for the first time. “I think you never forget how you felt that day – at least I will never forget it,†the chancellor said in a recent podcast. “I had to wait 35 years for that feeling of liberty. It changed my life.†At least two million people are expected to attend a grand street festival at the Brandenburg Gate. The former Polish president Lech Walesa, Hungarian ex-president Miklos Nemeth, as well as Gorbachev and German president Gauck, are all expected to take to the stage. Music will be provided by the Berlin State Orchestra, conducted by Daniel Barenboim, as well as East Berlin rock band Silly and British singer-songwriter Peter Gabriel, performing David Bowie’s Heroes. The centrepiece of the festivities will be formed by an ambitious art installation. Since Friday morning, 8,000 white balloons have been pegged to the ground along the former border. After sunset, they light up to form a 15km-long “wall of lightâ€. This evening the balloons will be released into the air one by one, to the music of Beethoven’s Ode to Joy. Berlin mayor Klaus Wowereit, as well as guests of honour including Nobel peace prize winner Muhammad Yunus, Nasa astronaut Ron Garan and Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales, will start the balloon release at 7pm local time. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/08/gorbachev-cold-war-threat-berlin-wall-25th-anniversary Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonna Lee 384 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 The world IS in a new cold war tbh and i didnt know gorbachev and lech walesa were still alive, God bless them i like it when u treat me mean it turns my mood from black to blue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Not that scared. Ukraine should/could be divided into two parts, and a lot of the problems there would be solved. Russians get what the want (eventhough that could be dangerous), Ukrainian government (which is wrong too by the way) will not br happy but will at least be able to join the EU, NATO, etc. with a strong majority of their country supporting it. I probably think about it too easy and black and white though. Don't know how it'd affect Europe's Russian gas, countries like Estonia, etc.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebee 2,528 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Not that scared. Ukraine should/could be divided into two parts, and a lot of the problems there would be solved. Russians get what the want (eventhough that could be dangerous), Ukrainian government (which is wrong too by the way) will not br happy but will at least be able to join the EU, NATO, etc. with a strong majority of their country supporting it. I probably think about it too easy and black and white though. Don't know how it'd affect Europe's Russian gas, countries like Estonia, etc.. Still your solution to the problem is one of the most reasonable. The first signs of this problem emerged when there were presidential elections in Ukraine with Timoshenko vs Yanukovich stand-off. While Timoshenko was regarded as a "pro-western" candidate and Yanukovich as a "pro-Russian" one, the election result of 45,5% vs 49% was a clear sign that the country was divided in the views on their political future. Besides, after the map of voting had been released, it could be noted that Timoshenko scored over 80% in the western regions, while Yanukovich took over 80% in the eastern regions, a fact which also signified how non-homogeneous was the country in its political views. Separating the country would be a very harsh decision. Although the western part could then possibly join EU and NATO, the nationalist political forces don't even consider this because for them it would mean surrender and loss of the territories which are rich in coal, ore and mineral resources. Besides, it would also mean that the attack on "separatists" which they launched in spring of 2014 had been pointless and they had lost so many soldiers for kind of nothing. However, maybe the western and eastern region do manage to become separate countries but still function as a single state (somewhat like England and Scotland, who are different countries but are both members of the United Kingdom). Such solution would have more constitutional grounds and a clearer economical implementation. I believe nay politicians are against Ukraine being divided into two countries because there could be many territories which would try to follow this mechanism and it could potentially create further tensions in various regions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommymonster44 0 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Not that scared. Ukraine should/could be divided into two parts, and a lot of the problems there would be solved. Russians get what the want (eventhough that could be dangerous), Ukrainian government (which is wrong too by the way) will not br happy but will at least be able to join the EU, NATO, etc. with a strong majority of their country supporting it. I probably think about it too easy and black and white though. Don't know how it'd affect Europe's Russian gas, countries like Estonia, etc.. I don't know too much about the topic, but I'd imagine the concern is that if we give in to Russia once,they will keep pishing for more. Will they slowly try to take back eastern Europe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHANTEL 2 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 Not that scared. Ukraine should/could be divided into two parts, and a lot of the problems there would be solved. Russians get what the want (eventhough that could be dangerous), Ukrainian government (which is wrong too by the way) will not br happy but will at least be able to join the EU, NATO, etc. with a strong majority of their country supporting it. I probably think about it too easy and black and white though. Don't know how it'd affect Europe's Russian gas, countries like Estonia, etc.. I agree with everything in this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 I think we are already in it and once again it's Russia the scum that wants to start **** My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted November 9, 2014 Share Posted November 9, 2014 The world IS in a new cold war tbh Definitely. I hope things don't escalate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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