SISTERV 3,887 Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 current pop music you twat. Welcome back to 2014 where when "pop music" is referred to we are actually talking about...2014. failing to understand the point, I see. Thanks for calling me a twat tho. I merely was suggesting that the great C2C music that "brings out her vocals" without autotune is original pop. And also...if you think autotune is what made Gaga sound good on any of her hits....then I suggest you listen to her sing those songs live??? Because they never sounded bad to me. lol It doesn't change the fact that it's an opinion and only one review. There were many reviews that were positive as well, Biotic's point was that there were some very biased reviews that dragged out the overall score and I think we can all agree that this was the case. And I understand that. These biased reviews were about Gaga herself and not the music. But I gave a great example and links to critics that aren't biased who said the album didn't work as well. Would you like to pull out some of those receipts of a critic who said that this was some fantastic amazing best of her career album? Because they don't exist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yes....Applause....Gaga's first debut single to not debut at #1. Along with all those other songs that didn't make the Top Ten. but beyond the charts....the only great instrumentals that work are Do What U Want and MANiCURE. the rest are messy and overproduced You ar talking with charts, lol. Gaga was at the lowest point of her career at the tme ARTPOP was released. For the time it was released Applause did amazing and it's also sonicaly higher than most othr things Gaga has ever created so don't talk to me about numbrs to prove me quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Yeah but this guy also writes and does youtube reviews. look at his receipts. I mean.....just because he uses technology to get the word out doesn't make him non-legitimate. Lol???? He is payed by a Media company to give thousands of album reviews a year. Its his job. His study is pop culture. I'm pretty sure he can be taken seriously. Especially if you listen to him...he doesn't attack Gaga...infact he admits he is biased in her favor a little and gives her the benefit of the doubt. But he brings up strong critically thought out points as to why the album failed and they are backed up by fact. But we started this by you bringing up the metacritic score so maybe we should focus on those, no? Sure he has his views but so do we and other reviewers. I remember Billboard praising the album and totally stanning for songs like MANiCURE and Gypsy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggedMonster 2 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 well she will be doing a rock album Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 You just have a talent for completely ignoring what people are actually saying, don't you? He said musically she's doing fine. Her style has evolved, and as successful as she was with RedOne, running back to him at a time when she is supposed to have risen above trivialities like charts really stings of desperation. I'm pretty sure I mentioned both the charts but I also mentioned the critique, too. So obviously I am not the one the listening issue. And in that critique what do we find: a lot of people didn't think much of ARTPOP. And it's partially due to messy production that was outdated by the time the album came out. The fact is, DJWS has never given Gaga a #1 hit...and despite the charts....its awfully interesting that everyone says DJWS is some great producer that can make great pop music bla bla bla....but RedOne has delivered....with 5 Top 5 hits and 3 #1s. Sounds like the public isn't interested in DJWS' "great" production skills. He can go back to Ohio and play trap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LynpheaStar 886 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ugh Gaga always says that everytime people tell her to do something she does the opposite! Now not only fans but the media as well say she 'needs' him! We're doomed, we'll never see RedOne in the credits again! :< Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 But we started this by you bringing up the metacritic score so maybe we should focus on those, no? Sure he has his views but so do we and other reviewers. I remember Billboard praising the album and totally stanning for songs like MANiCURE and Gypsy. Billboard???? These aren't critics. These are the CEO's of numbers in music. Are you serious? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster 2 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Scheiße & Gypsy were the tour headliners for 2 tours (unless you count teog/mtn oddness) so even Gaga knows he is her best. The fame ball highlight/finish: Poker Face The monster ball finish: Bad Romance Btwb finish (non encore): Scheiße Artrave finish: Gypsy Her biggest successes were redone produced. Her album highlights are inclusive of redone credits. They're Lennon/McCartney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptune 156 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Applause, Sexxx Dreams, ARTPOP, Swine, Do What U Want, Dope, MANiCURE, all his production son ARTPOP were amazing + all his amazing BTW. Can't say the same about Money Honey and Boys, Boys, Boys. Not even going to waste my time with you. Have a good day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 You ar talking with charts, lol. Gaga was at the lowest point of her career at the tme ARTPOP was released. For the time it was released Applause did amazing and it's also sonicaly higher than most othr things Gaga has ever created so don't talk to me about numbrs to prove me quality. debatable. I like Applause...it worked. But DJWS has not delivered the goods the way RedOne has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guille 1,169 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 The Guardian knows the truth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Ugh Gaga always says that everytime people tell her to do something she does the opposite! Now not only fans but the media as well say she 'needs' him! We're doomed, we'll never see RedOne in the credits again! :< This isn't necessarily true at all. at all. I don't think she meant that she legitimately wants to just rebel for ****'s sake. She likes rebelling against the bull**** that the media and CEO's project on her. Her fans are different. For example, I remember after Born this Way a lot of fans were posting that they wanted something more electronic and harder. The fans kept posting fake snippets of electronic music. It might have been why she initially was interested in going a hard techno direction with ARTPOP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 failing to understand the point, I see. Thanks for calling me a twat tho. I merely was suggesting that the great C2C music that "brings out her vocals" without autotune is original pop. And also...if you think autotune is what made Gaga sound good on any of her hits....then I suggest you listen to her sing those songs live??? Because they never sounded bad to me. lol And I understand that. These biased reviews were about Gaga herself and not the music. But I gave a great example and links to critics that aren't biased who said the album didn't work as well. Would you like to pull out some of those receipts of a critic who said that this was some fantastic amazing best of her career album? Because they don't exist. The only one I recall is the BB one, it was very positive. There arent many more but didn;t we already know that te critics didn't like the album? It's not like there aren;t many great albums today that were slammed by the critics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiendman 237 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 I'm pretty sure I mentioned both the charts but I also mentioned the critique, too. So obviously I am not the one the listening issue. And in that critique what do we find: a lot of people didn't think much of ARTPOP. And it's partially due to messy production that was outdated by the time the album came out. The fact is, DJWS has never given Gaga a #1 hit...and despite the charts....its awfully interesting that everyone says DJWS is some great producer that can make great pop music bla bla bla....but RedOne has delivered....with 5 Top 5 hits and 3 #1s. Sounds like the public isn't interested in DJWS' "great" production skills. He can go back to Ohio and play trap. Yup, because commercialism is tantamount to quality. :roll: You carry with you a sense of self-importance and that makes it very difficult to objectively discuss something, as you're 100% sure you're right about everything. Can you just try to listen to someone else's point of view, even a little bit? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollercoaster 2 Posted November 2, 2014 Share Posted November 2, 2014 Who exec produced tfm? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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