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But the entire point of this video was statistics and statements regarding institutional racism, there's really no point in trying to bring up other types of prejudice.

Ok, what are these reasons that minorities just have this predisposition to do violent things that the majority just seems to be lacking?

Socioeconomic disparities, particularly when it comes to school funding being based off of property taxes, leaves poorer kids at a disadvantage and often with a poor home life, which leads to increased crime and increased likelihood of joining a gang. Poorer kids tend to come from ethnic families because of the history of the United States. The Civil War was only 150 years ago, and extreme systematic prejudice only became reformed 50 years ago. To assume that the races are on equal footing and the only thing keeping blacks and latinos from rising up is racism is to ignore real facts about the quality of life that they lead. A quality of life that is largely due to wrong doings in the past, but that won't be fixed by making everyone "not racist."

 

The best reform imo would be to change the ways that schools are funded so that kids have access to better schools. Increase security in schools and increase pay for teachers to teach in those areas to encourage good teachers to want to work there. Fight gang violence. Encourage kids to get realistic technical jobs, not college or nothing (because nothing = crime or low skill low wage jobs that will probably eventually lead to crime anyways). The black community also needs stronger leaders who will serve as role models and encourage people to work for themselves and fight for their rights. It simply will not happen that in one generation blacks and latinos will escape where they are now. This generation needs to work to provide a better future for their children.

 

That is not to say that racism doesn't exist, it certainly does. Laws that allow police officers to fine people who are poor (and in turn generally ethnic) and imprison those who simply cannot pay are at the least illogical and at the most systematic racism breathing today. In many cases minorities have the manpower to change those laws though, if they were organized and used that power. Often our prejudices lead us to assume wrong things about people who are respectable in every sense of the word. There is a reason those prejudices exist though and to say it's entirely learned is ignoring the very real and very prevalent problems that perpetuate stereotypes and plague ethnic communities in this day.

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Socioeconomic disparities, particularly when it comes to school funding being based off of property taxes, leaves poorer kids at a disadvantage and often with a poor home life, which leads to increased crime and increased likelihood of joining a gang. Poorer kids tend to come from ethnic families because of the history of the United States. The Civil War was only 150 years ago, and extreme systematic prejudice only became reformed 50 years ago. To assume that the races are on equal footing and the only thing keeping blacks and latinos from rising up is racism is to ignore real facts about the quality of life that they lead. A quality of life that is largely due to wrong doings in the past, but that won't be fixed by making everyone "not racist."

 

The best reform imo would be to change the ways that schools are funded so that kids have access to better schools. Increase security in schools and increase pay for teachers to teach in those areas to encourage good teachers to want to work there. Fight gang violence. Encourage kids to get realistic technical jobs, not college or nothing (because nothing = crime or low skill low wage jobs that will probably eventually lead to crime anyways). The black community also needs stronger leaders who will serve as role models and encourage people to work for themselves and fight for their rights. It simply will not happen that in one generation blacks and latinos will escape where they are now. This generation needs to work to provide a better future for their children.

 

That is not to say that racism doesn't exist, it certainly does. Laws that allow police officers to fine people who are poor (and in turn generally ethnic) and imprison those who simply cannot pay are at the least illogical and at the most systematic racism breathing today. In many cases minorities have the manpower to change those laws though, if they were organized and used that power. Often our prejudices lead us to assume wrong things about people who are respectable in every sense of the word. There is a reason those prejudices exist though and to say it's entirely learned is ignoring the very real and very prevalent problems that perpetuate stereotypes and plague ethnic communities in this day.

But these economic disparities and lack of quality of life go hand in hand with institutionalized racism?

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But these economic disparities and lack of quality of life go hand in hand with institutionalized racism?

Not entirely.

 

To say they are the cause 100% is ridiculous. There are plenty of poor white people after all.

 

A lot of people believe they are 100% the cause though. Which doesn't help anyone and hurts ethnic communities.

 

Solving racism won't solve the problem, and ironically if the problem isn't solved racism won't be solved either. So, you really have to do both at the same time, it's not a one at a time thing.

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Not entirely.

 

To say they are the cause 100% is ridiculous. There are plenty of poor white people after all.

 

A lot of people believe they are 100% the cause though. Which doesn't help anyone and hurts ethnic communities.

 

Solving racism won't solve the problem, and ironically if the problem isn't solved racism won't be solved either. So, you really have to do both at the same time, it's not a one at a time thing.

I think our society is trying to do both at the same time though. The thing is, education reform and community planning require lots of research, expertise, and ingenuity. Our education system and our communities are broken and it's very unclear how exactly to fix them. But that isn't to say that people behind the scenes aren't actively trying. Their work just doesn't get much attention because it's tedious. I don't see the problem in bringing attention to institutionalized racism, which, though not 100% of the problem, is still a huge problem for minority communities. It's not like the people working in education reform and community planning suddenly give up their day jobs when we start talking about institutionalized racism instead of education and housing segregation.

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I think our society is trying to do both at the same time though. The thing is, education reform and community planning require lots of research, expertise, and ingenuity. Our education system and our communities are broken and it's very unclear how exactly to fix them. But that isn't to say that people behind the scenes aren't actively trying. Their work just doesn't get much attention because it's tedious. I don't see the problem in bringing attention to institutionalized racism, which, though not 100% of the problem, is still a huge problem for minority communities. It's not like the people working in education reform and community planning suddenly give up their day jobs when we start talking about institutionalized racism instead of education and housing segregation.

There is no problem with acknowledging it, I did so myself.

 

But it is a problem when the claim is made that it's the only problem. It absolves minorities of any responsibility and no one wants to hear that. It angers people to be made out as an enemy of black people and the sole reason that black people don't succeed.

 

Community reform shouldn't be in the background, there should be outrage that violence is so prevalent. People have instead become complacent with it. And complacent with systematic racism. Never organizing to bring about significant change and never organizing to counteract the problems within the black community itself. This is why I think the black community needs stronger leaders, because the people in the background just aren't working.

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There is no problem with acknowledging it, I did so myself.

 

But it is a problem when the claim is made that it's the only problem. It absolves minorities of any responsibility and no one wants to hear that. It angers people to be made out as an enemy of black people and the sole reason that black people don't succeed.

 

Community reform shouldn't be in the background, there should be outrage that violence is so prevalent. People have instead become complacent with it. And complacent with systematic racism. Never organizing to bring about significant change and never organizing to counteract the problems within the black community itself. This is why I think the black community needs stronger leaders, because the people in the background just aren't working.

You're right that what people in the background are doing hasn't been working, but I'm really not sure a strong leader in and of itself would help. It just seems to me (and maybe this is incorrect) that things like community and education reform are by their very nature academically based, research-driven, and highly complex, such that a strong leader could urge the scholars on, but that progress would basically go at the pace of the people behind the scenes anyway. But who knows, maybe a strong leader and more attention would get more people to go into the field and get some new ideas out there.

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Since this video was dedicated to Michael Brown, there is a new and interesting development that CNN showed tonight. I imagine we will be hearing about this new video on all the major networks in the upcoming days.

 

Video Shows Witnesses' Disbelief Following Michael Brown Shooting:

 

 

A video airing on CNN Wednesday showed witnesses' immediate reactions to the shooting death of Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager shot and killed by a Ferguson, Missouri police officer last month.

 

In a cell phone video provided to CNN, two men who were doing construction work on a home near the scene react to seeing Brown shot by Officer Darren Wilson.

 

"He had his f**king hands up," one man says in the recording.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/10/michael-brown-witnesses_n_5801330.html

 

"The cop didn't say get on the ground. He just kept shooting," the man said.

That same witness described the gruesome scene, saying he saw Brown's "brains come out of his head," again stating, "his hands were up."

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The other contractor told CNN he saw Brown running away from a police car.

Brown "put his hands up," the construction worker said, and "the officer was chasing him."

The contractor says he saw Wilson fire a shot at Brown while his back was turned.

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Omg this video is terrible  :toofunny:

 

They don't answer at all to the points I agree with

 

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"Stop playing the racism card" (white people comment)

Answer: "We're not playing cards, this is not a game!"

 

Great answer. But again it's you black people talking about racism against us white people. (Notice how this lovely video is making me say "you black people" and "us white people") Racism goes both ways, tyvm. By making this video you just prove y'all racist yourself.

 

And those ridiculous gestures, accents and street terms don't help either.

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I take issue with that semantic interpretation. The video is addressed to white people, but I don't see anywhere in the video them blaming all white people. To me, it seems more like "White people, this is an issue that you *may* not think affects you, and here are some arguments that you *may* find yourself making, well here are some responses to those arguments." I suppose it doesn't help that the kids are yelling into the camera, which make it seem very aggressive. But just as much as they don't explicitly say "some" to qualify "white people," they don't say "all" either.

 

See, this is what I don't like about the video. They actually raised a few points that I think myself, and instead of giving me a short, intelligent answer I have a bunch of kids yelling at me. Great.

 

Also news-flash to the creators of this video: racism will ALWAYS exist. It's natural. The only thing that matters is whether you act out on it or not. What goes on in my own head is my own business.

 

Then again the only racism I encounter around here is against Asians, so the whole White > Black situation isn't something I've really personally experienced. There is a lot of Blacks & Arabs attacking Whites here, though.

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You guys are taking the 'hey white people!' statement too presonally. They're not saying everyone is racist. It's obvious that there are hundreds of thousands of non-racist white people in the world. The point is how people act in regards to events like this. Many responses to the Ferguson incident were quotes such as what they said, and it was insane.

 

That **** about resumes? That's true. I have been judged openly about being black upon receiving my application. Like, going into a place with a 'now hiring' sign on the door, going in to ask for an application, am seen with my black father and told no. I have had people take my resume and application, and during my interview, point out that I checked black and ask me if I was 'confused'. I am 50/50 black and white, and I have had many instances in my life where, upon finding out that I was black, people started to treat me differently.

 

I think you guys need to read more about black-white history beyond 'slaves were freed in 1863 and marched for rights in 1964' -- which my father marched in -- to see how it was truly like. I myself don't even know 100% what it's like, but I have a good idea from being around my father.

 

Have you ever washed your car outside and cops pull up to ask you what you were doing to that car and 'you'd never own a car like that'? Do you ever go to pick up your kids from school and they decline you because there's no way 'those are your kids'? Are you ever leaving a funeral home after your mother has died and cops suddenly pull up saying you were dealing d--gs to a fellow mourner? Are you ever physically attacked by a dog in a public park, and the (white) owners laugh with their whole family, egg the dog on, and don't apologize? Have you ever had a coworker tell you that your race is worthless and it's surprising that there's someone doing good here? My dad walks around in ****ing button-ups and his suitcase all day, and these things happen to him on a monthly basis. The dog attack was only two weeks ago. This is in NYC of all places, so imagine how it is in the south and the midwest?

 

I'm tired of hearing 'why don't black people focus on changing their crime rates and such'. The 'criminal' black image is because of the media. They constantly portray black people in that light. When do you ever hear good stories on the news about us getting our degrees, volunteering, saving someone's life? Never. Rap culture continued to permeate this as it grew in the early 2000s and made it 'cool' to be that way. But the people who portray that stereotype is a small amount. There are hundreds of thousands of us with degrees, with homes, whom have never been arrested, whom live the same life as everyone else. We're just 'overlooked' and called 'the-really-white black friend' because we're 'educated and different than the others'. It's ****ing sick and this needs to go away.

 

Racism needs to stop whether it's against black, white, Asian, hispanic, anyone. It's disproportionately against black people, hence why the word racism is associated with white-to-black, but everyone experiences it, and it's ****ing disgusting. It needs to go. I'm over it, just like the kids in this video. We're all one race -- the human race -- and there is nothing different about us biologically that separates us from one another. The difference is socially, and that is something that we can all change. You guys need to understand the depth of this and see that a lot of things need to change that we can change.

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You guys are taking the 'hey white people!' statement too presonally. They're not saying everyone is racist. It's obvious that there are hundreds of thousands of non-racist white people in the world. The point is how people act in regards to events like this. Many responses to the Ferguson incident were quotes such as what they said, and it was insane.

 

That **** about resumes? That's true. I have been judged openly about being black upon receiving my application. Like, going into a place with a 'now hiring' sign on the door, going in to ask for an application, am seen with my black father and told no. I have had people take my resume and application, and during my interview, point out that I checked black and ask me if I was 'confused'. I am 50/50 black and white, and I have had many instances in my life where, upon finding out that I was black, people started to treat me differently.

 

I think you guys need to read more about black-white history beyond 'slaves were freed in 1863 and marched for rights in 1964' -- which my father marched in -- to see how it was truly like. I myself don't even know 100% what it's like, but I have a good idea from being around my father.

 

Have you ever washed your car outside and cops pull up to ask you what you were doing to that car and 'you'd never own a car like that'? Do you ever go to pick up your kids from school and they decline you because there's no way 'those are your kids'? Are you ever leaving a funeral home after your mother has died and cops suddenly pull up saying you were dealing d--gs to a fellow mourner? Are you ever physically attacked by a dog in a public park, and the (white) owners laugh with their whole family, egg the dog on, and don't apologize? Have you ever had a coworker tell you that your race is worthless and it's surprising that there's someone doing good here? My dad walks around in ****ing button-ups and his suitcase all day, and these things happen to him on a monthly basis. The dog attack was only two weeks ago. This is in NYC of all places, so imagine how it is in the south and the midwest?

 

I'm tired of hearing 'why don't black people focus on changing their crime rates and such'. The 'criminal' black image is because of the media. They constantly portray black people in that light. When do you ever hear good stories on the news about us getting our degrees, volunteering, saving someone's life? Never. Rap culture continued to permeate this as it grew in the early 2000s and made it 'cool' to be that way. But the people who portray that stereotype is a small amount. There are hundreds of thousands of us with degrees, with homes, whom have never been arrested, whom live the same life as everyone else. We're just 'overlooked' and called 'the-really-white black friend' because we're 'educated and different than the others'. It's ****ing sick and this needs to go away.

 

Racism needs to stop whether it's against black, white, Asian, hispanic, anyone. It's disproportionately against black people, hence why the word racism is associated with white-to-black, but everyone experiences it, and it's ****ing disgusting. It needs to go. I'm over it, just like the kids in this video. We're all one race -- the human race -- and there is nothing different about us biologically that separates us from one another. The difference is socially, and that is something that we can all change. You guys need to understand the depth of this and see that a lot of things need to change that we can change.

 

I'm sure the video is going to help change that... >_<!

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Side note to...well everyone basically.

 

Non-whites can be racist.

Women can be s-xist.

 

If you can't understand or refuse to acept that, please explain to me why.

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