Redstreak 6,653 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 If you thought it smelled a bit like acetone and bull****, you were right. That innovative nail polish that promised to detect date rape d--gs has been the subject of both praise and scrutiny over the last week, but this tidbit should change the tenor of the conversation a bit: an exasperated-sounding pharmaceutical expert claims that it won't actually work. Animal New York's "Backdoor Pharmacist" called the nail polish  and other such date rape d--g detecting products like coasters, napkins, and straws  items that "exist in a fantasy world of stranger danger pill-packing predators and irresponsible victims." Way harsh, Tai. The problem, BP explains, is twofold. First of all, the so-called date rape detectors have proven in laboratory tests to be too sensitive, sometimes changing color when encountering such scary rape-enabling substances as cow milk. In another trial, similar products only caught the presence of GHB two out of three times. But the biggest problem is that there are simply too many date rape d--gs out there for a "date rape d--g detector" to be anything more than a silly pipe dream. S/he writes, Even if these kits worked and were 100% reliable, this is a losing battle. Wikipedia lists over 100 benzodiazepines like Xanax and Rohypnol including phenazepam (which can cause you to black out for days) and etizolam. Going beyond benzos adds hundreds more sedatives/hypnotics like Benadryl (diphenhydramine) and Unisom Sleep Tabs (doxylamine) which can be bought over the counter. And we can't forget the stimulants like c-----e and meth, the empathogens like MDMA or ecstasy, non-benzo d--gs like Ambien, which I can personally attest to producing blackouts, and opioids like Vicodin (hydrocodone) and Percocet (oxycodone). You can create a universal testing kit, and trudge off to each bar with a bag filled with highly corrosive sulphuric acid reagents, an arsenal of test strips, microplates, pipettors, and for every single one of your drinks, use up a bunch of pipettor tips in order to sample. Even that suffers from a lack of imagination. A testing kit that extensive would no way fit inside a standard-sized clutch bag. And even if it could, the level of light, sterility and control necessary to conduct a lab experiment with reliable results are lacking in most bars that aren't that incredibly bright, depressing "beach" themed bar in the Southwest terminal at Midway airport. (Anyone who has been there knows the one. It's the world's worst place for a Bloody Mary.) And the biggest problem with date rape d--g detecting nail polish, coasters, napkins, beanie hats with propellers that spin when rape danger approaches, etc, as BP points out, is that the most common date rape d--g is one that women who are date raped know they are consuming  it's alcohol. Rapists looking to prey on incapacitated women (especially in underage or collegiate drinking situations) will often feed their mark extra booze and wait until it takes effect. It's why college freshman girls are told by wise upperclassmen to avoid the jungle juice at frat parties. It's not that rapey dudes are running around sprinkling GHB into cauldrons of kool aid and alcohol; it's that aspirant date rapists know that a good way to incapacitate a woman is to disguise the amount she's drinking, or pressure her into drinking more than she'd drink if left to her druthers. In short, no bar counter-conducted experiment could possible detect the hundreds of substances innovative rapists might use to incapacitate a woman (or man) they wish to victimize. And once again, putting the responsibility on s-xual assault victims to stop their own assaults has proven a far more complex and impossible than a much simpler solution: teach men that having s-x with women too incapacitated to consent is rape. Or at least give them temporary knuckle tats that say DONT RAPE on them. One letter per finger. http://jezebel.com/date-rape-d--g-detecting-nail-polish-will-not-possibly-1627422611 How sad :( Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,899 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Mess. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I dont get how it would have worked in the first place. When you drink that dont you become dizzy and faint off? How would your glowing polish nail save you from that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I dont get how it would have worked in the first place. When you drink that dont you become dizzy and faint off? How would your glowing polish nail save you from that. I guess it was so you could leave? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry 2,374 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 And it seemed like such a good idea....Poor dat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 I dont get how it would have worked in the first place. When you drink that dont you become dizzy and faint off? How would your glowing polish nail save you from that. you would stick your finger in the drink before you drink it. If the polish changed colors then something bad was in the drink Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disregard 50 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Who the hell gets date-raped after being slipped a percocet? It's a friggin painkiller. This article may have some merit, but it protests a bit TOO much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I dont get how it would have worked in the first place. When you drink that dont you become dizzy and faint off? How would your glowing polish nail save you from that. Confused by what you're asking. The point was so you could dip your finger in your drink to detect any date rape d--gs? You don't drink the drink... Or the nail polish.... I'm so confused by what you're asking :rip: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 The best advice I seen was on Embarrassing bodies. 1) avoid bright artificial coloured drinks as some of the tasteless d--gs are the same colour. (Avoid dark drinks too as they can also mask the colour of any d--gs) 2) stick to drinks you know the taste of, most of these d--gs have a salty taste or after taste so know what you're drink should taste like. 3) the most common d--g to take advantage of someone is actually more alcohol and it's not surprising for people to sneak an extra shot/measure into your drink if they're planning to take advantage. If your drink tastes too strong, don't drink it. Most importantly, keep hold of your drink and cover the top when walking through crowds, that should just be common knowledge by now though :Emma: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Confused by what you're asking. The point was so you could dip your finger in your drink to detect any date rape d--gs? You don't drink the drink... Or the nail polish.... I'm so confused by what you're asking you would stick your finger in the drink before you drink it. If the polish changed colors then something bad was in the drink I guess it was so you could leave? I thought if you drinked a drink that had something in it they would glow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I thought if you drinked a drink that had something in it they would glow How would that even work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azor Ahai 18,861 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 How would that even work I dont know science okay thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Oh and this article is bull. To avoid early activation, apply a coat of (insert the huge list of resilient liquids) that wash away with alcohol. The point of the polish is to detect the undetectable, you will be able to taste if someone put the d--gs listed into your drink. This is for tasteless date rape d--gs so they're not even aiming to make it react to MDMA etc Sure, the polish needs balancing but why are they even trying to tear it down before it's even got off the ground? Jheeze. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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