Spyro 8,438 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Yeah...right. Have fun with all these negative scenarios you make up inside of your head. Make up? Okay, so ignoring the ever decreasing sales since TFM I stated to you, she's selling less than half of her last album TWO YEARS ago? Thanks for not even backing up your claim that she can still tour and only wrote I'm just living imaginations of these scenarios.. If another ARTPOP era happens and she sells half from before from 2.3 million to 1.15 million, her popularity will decrease further, which mean LESS people will buy her music, LESS people will buy her tour tickets, LESS people will be in the fan base, and that equates to LESS money for Gaga which means she won't go on tour because of the red/black difference. Not to mention the massive down grade from stadiums to arenas. Spyro the Dragon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilla 13,382 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Idk why people just can't let it go and just accept the fact that things have changed... You're a fan, you're not a manager or someone in the industry to make decisions of what is best for her. With all that energy, you could be doing something positive and constructive instead of negative and deconstructive. Do something in your own life that YOU are proud of, like Gaga is. So what if she's not doin anything? She's on tour and just got her head on straight and there's fans trying to knock it askew. This argument is ridiculous and I wish y'all could see how youre acting rn Tl;dr so what if she does? At the end of the day it's HER career and HER life and her fans aren't obligated to remain fans for eternity 𝙸'𝚖 𝚊 𝚓𝚘𝚛𝚝𝚜 𝚊𝚗𝚍 𝚓𝚎𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚜𝚑𝚘𝚎𝚜 𝚔𝚒𝚗𝚍 𝚘𝚏 𝚐𝚒𝚛𝚕. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Gaga could fall off the face of the earth as a pop star and all she gains is freedom. She could go independent, become a rock god, return to SGB days, or trip the lights of Broadway. As Obi-Wan would say "strike me down and I will become more powerful than you can possibly imagine " Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefani328 321 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Wow, this thread has gotten so messy. I would also love her to try new things or do things she's done in the past to try to recover the GP but it's not like success is a formula. She tries and works hard, probably not like in the begining but I bet most of you wouldn't be able to pull up half of what she's done so far. Complain a little about your frustrations and give new ideas for huge success... yes, but some of you are acting like bossy b---hes that think can handle Gaga like a muppet! :sweep: The girl is on tour and this tour is amazing, in order to do live performances in tv shows, you have to invited, it's not like she doesn't want to do it. And as for new single release that's not up to her, it's up to the label, get your **** together ya'll! My point from last night. They say she needs to promote but what can she promote besides as someone suggested in Australia. It sounds like people expect her to be performing on TV shows and award shows. Most artists don't do anything when they are on tour, but tour. She didn't do enough promo before so now they act like she is suddenly going to do some for a new single. Promo for an era that's dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
destructivelove 563 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Just leave the mother****ing fanbase. You seem to care so much about what the GP says about her and right now they aren't saying nice things so just come back and act like a fan when she's on top again. How about the actl music? If you are so obsessed with the charts you won't even pay attention to the music. God, go stan for Katy or something. She's the it girl right now. And Gaga is so ambitious. She just doesn't sell out to the GP like you want her to. She's done 7... SEVEN promo concerts this era. That is A LOT. She does a lot of promotion. And it's just G.U.Y. Which didn't get promo? So what? Gaga is an artist. She isn't some fame *****. And she tries. The GP just doesn't react. You are so ungrateful damn. Idk why you chart obsessors just don't leave omg. :roll: no one here is obsessing over charts tho sis... take your personal aggression somewhere else... if you read any of the responses that you would deem as "negative", you would realize that we are all just worried about her losing her position of power. EVERYTHING she does; travel, tours, performances, booking, management, staff, security, outfits/costumes, wigs, makeup, beauticians, stylists, producers, music videos, hotels, trainers, choreographers, dancers.... ALL COST DAMN MONEY.... those "7 promo concerts" you talk about ONLY happened because Interscope was willing to FINANCE them... :trootea: "music not the bling" until interscope pulls the plug on everything that she needs to be a star and give us the kind of high-level entertainment we love to see from her... how would fans like it if she couldn't afford to tour internationally anymore? didnt have high level choreography and amazing dancers? Think her management was a mess this era?... think about when she cant afford high level best-of-the-best managers... sure she has an amazing voice... sure she's creative... and ill always love STEFANI to death as a person till the end of time... but "GAGA" as an act cant continue to exist in the future as we know her to be without funding... no one here is b---hing about a #1 or "obsessing with charts" we are "obsessing" over the girl we all fell in love with.. the reason we are here... and if you dont want her to be the best SHE CAN BE, then you're letting her settle, and coming from someone who has struggled with depression himself, "settling" and being complacent is the worst thing someone in her position can do... i personally however want her to wake up every day and WANT to TOP HER BEST!... THAT is what cures depression! Keeping busy will keep her clean... look what happened when she had 2 years out of the spotlight... she went out and got ****ed up drinking and on d--gs constantly during and after the BTWB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexxx 2,244 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 She's become very toned down in music and fashion. She's not crazy as she used to be. Maybe she decided to change :shrug: Lady Gaga/ Madonna/Lana /Azealia Banks/ Jazmine Sullivan/ DEEE-LITE/ Moko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelic 1,098 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Well, I know it's annoying hearing fans complaining about Gaga's effort and coming up with all these arguments about what she should do and what she she should not, to regain GP's attention. But don't get them wrong, I'm pretty sure not all of them are trolls but fans (probably outside of the states and europe) that are afraid that Gaga's success keeps on decreasing to the point she won't even tour other places or even ends up doing small-venues tours only in the US like some former major stars have ended. I know it's a dramatic scenerio but look at latin american fans, they must be very frustrated Gaga won't get to tour down there this time around. It's not like they all wanna see Gaga on top all the time but at least be able to pull up enough success to stay relevant in market places where she couldn't reach out to, otherwise. Well at least that's my guess! Some of you might be fine with Gaga doing whatever she feels confortable with in regards to her artistry, even if she ends up singing jazz tunes at local night clubs ( a little exaggerated scenario), but you guys are probably able to go see her perform even if a major disaster like that one, was to happen. I don't know, I'm getting my conclusions and wandering a little prolly... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyro 8,438 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Well, I know it's annoying hearing fans complaining about Gaga's effort and coming up with all these arguments about what she should do and what she she should not, to regain GP's attention. But don't get them wrong, I'm pretty sure not all of them are trolls but fans (probably outside of the states and europe) that are afraid that Gaga's success keeps on decreasing to the point she won't even tour other places or even ends up doing small-venues tours only in the US like some former major stars have ended. I know it's a dramatic scenerio but look at latin american fans, they must be very frustrated Gaga won't get to tour down there this time around. It's not like they all wanna see Gaga on top all the time but at least be able to pull up enough success to stay relevant in market places where she couldn't reach out to, otherwise. Well at least that's my guess! Some of you might be fine with Gaga doing whatever she feels confortable with in regards to her artistry, even if she ends up singing jazz tunes at local night clubs ( a little exaggerated scenario), but you guys are probably able to go see her perform even if a major disaster like that one, was to happen. I don't know, I'm getting my conclusions and wandering a little prolly... Exactly what I'm trying to say. Spyro the Dragon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHE 563 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 She shouldn't have to care how the GP feels, she can do whatever the hell she wants like release a jazz album and not promote it because I'll still be there to support her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilVenusian 579 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Please! Iggy is a newbie...let's see where she is at and how many albums she has sold in six years. Madonna had her ups and downs. Some of her eras and projects were more successful than others. That's what happens in a long term career. ..same will be tried for Gaga. Im just saying atm Iggy probably has more of a hunger to make an impact and so she did. She could go the same route as gaga and get a bit more lax but atm shes pretty much everywhere and is working her ass off, like gaga was in the early days. I've followed Iggy's career before she even broke into the mainstream and she strikes me as a very smart business woman so I wouldn't wholly underestimate her potential to rise even further. She knows what she wants and how the business works and isnt as naive as gaga, whos clearly still figuring things out and is slightly ignorant to the whole business side of things. Madonna always had that hunger, of course she had her commercial ups and downs, but shes always been in the public eye and making some sort of cultural impact i.e the whole erotica era flopped but she still drove that album and brand to the ground and now its got one of the biggest legacies of all her albums. Don't you feel with the way the ARTPOP era panned out that gaga kind of lost a lil faith. I mean she didnt even release one whole video and it looks like where not even gonna get anymore singles. Even if ARTPOP is her least commercially successful album she could have at least made it memorable i.e BTW also "under performed" by everyone's standards, but it sure as hell made a lot more impact cause gaga was living and breathing that album and it had a much more clearer message and concept.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 She'll lose her contract Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kit Walker 6 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 I believe the reason that ARTPOP's promotional schedule has halted is because she's been planning hard for the future. I think her plan is that C2C is a simple enough album, to show people she has the amazing voice and everything. But all the while, she'll be quietly planning her future. People say BTW and ARTPOP were a mess, and they were because things starting falling apart during BTW and completely fell apart during ARTPOP. Now she has her **** sorted, knows who to trust and what to do. Almost the entire fanbase has lost faith, and gaga knows this. Don't pretend she's gone forever, she can market herself if she wants. Every artist has their ups and their downs. So no, I don't think she'll keep "messing around", I think she's hiding, keeping herself in the public eye with C2C while she plans her best stuff for later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills 446 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Promotion isn't ENTIRELY for the satisfaction of the casual mainstream music fans, or the "GP" as online pop forums like to refer it. Releasing singles and music videos in a timely and organized manner aren't ENTIRELY done for the satisfaction or approval of them also. The idea that promotional stuff is solely directed to satisfy others, and not the actual fans, is misleading. Aren't these things more for the fans in exchange of the support we're giving to the artist / brand? Gaga has proven countless times that she's doing things FOR THE FANS, specifically the hardcore ones, and not for everyone else. Because if she does, she would have straightaway collaborated with the likes of Dr. Luke while dropping all the "weird" stuff associated to her brand. With that, being timely and organized isn't an imperative for her to please those people who haven't supported her in the first place. They're more of essential to please those who actually allotted time, money, and effort for her all these years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 She'll lose her contract No, she won't. Gaga is one of their top artists, especially with the 360 deal. Interscope makes a helluva lot of money off of her. They aren't letting her go anytime soon! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LStephens11 15 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Gaga is fine. A career in this industry is to have it's fair shares of highs and lows, ARTPOP is considered a low. People just don't know how to handle it. She's not in any danger, she's fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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