Ronk 14,762 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I am two trolls away from leaving GGD because this just isn't productive anymore. All you guy do is complain. And it saddens me that there might be a time when Gaga forums are full of people who are only there to reminisce about 2010 and complain that she isn't like that anymore. There is more to Stefani Germanotta than that and she doesn't deserve to have her talent be measured by the amount of promo she does or how much the GP talks about her. Dude this is seriously a tragedy. Being heckled by your own fans for not caring about the top spot anymore. You care that much about fame? Get some talent and do it yourself then. This. Gaga deserves so much better than this flop fanbase. People whining and complaining instead of hoping Gaga does whatever makes her happy. People who think she's down right now should lift her up with their love and support. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Venus 473 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I want her to be on top because she deserves it tbh.She's got the whole package and her music is (for me at least) the best pop music.Plus,she will have huge tours so I'll get to see her more often but I won't care if she decides to stop being a HUGE Popstar as long as it's her decision and the music still slays. She's really hardworking and she's proven it many times.You all should be happy for stanning such a beautiful and talented person.Stop trying to make her a person she is not or she doesn't want to be.Fans are supposed to like the artist's work not make the artist deliver the work they'd love. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 She performed GUY live ONCE on TV, and only twice (roseland ballroom) total besides the tour. I mean no wonder it flopped! And Paparazzi was released as a single while she was on tour and did amazingly and she has so many live performances, WITH an awesome video! But now, she cancels a month of tour dates so she can perform with Tony a couple of times and thats all that comes of it. FameGa, TFMGa, BTWGa, could all have made so many great projects or videos, or at least a gagavision, in that time. She didn't cancel anything And you all have no idea what she's been doing behind the scenes. I suppose this fanbase needs Gaga to start punching an online time sheet so they can monitor her activities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopBitch 1,218 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 lol this it would be such a slap in the face to these fans. I hope Gaga releases a classical piano album next, I would be here for that tbh. She could do a ThePianoGuys type album, classically trained musicians that do their instrumental interpretation of popular music and classical music They get millions of hits depending on the song. A One Direction song got 33 million hits. Taylor Swift Begin Again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P94DusN4LsY Bruno Mars Just The Way You Are http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIBRcQdzWQs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 It's all about the music for me, if we get another ARTPOP then I'll probably start drifting away. ALSO can everyone stop being rude? He's got an opinion, honestly people who just flat out attack any slightly negative opinion in this fanbase are the worst. Gaga clearly makes her fans a big part of her career so constantly attacking every single person with a complaint is driving people away, sort it out. You make it impossible to feel like anyone here can have a normal debate about their favourite artist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,349 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 It's all about the music for me, if we get another ARTPOP then I'll probably start drifting away. ALSO can everyone stop being rude? He's got an opinion, honestly people who just flat out attack any slightly negative opinion in this fanbase are the worst. Gaga clearly makes her fans a big part of her career so constantly attacking every single person with a complaint is driving people away, sort it out. You make it impossible to feel like anyone here can have a normal debate about their favourite artist. Bro, this is a forum. People post their opinion and people either agree or counter it. Don't cry wolf just because an opinion is being countered. For every person on this thread that is disagreeing with his opinion, there are just as many who are agreeing. So sit down. Tired of people labeling users as delusional just because they defend Gaga on an open forum. There are two sides of this coin and both sides are going to argue vehemently. Including those who think there's nothing wrong with Gaga's music or her marketing decisions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopBitch 1,218 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 She performed GUY live ONCE on TV, and only twice (roseland ballroom) total besides the tour. I mean no wonder it flopped! And Paparazzi was released as a single while she was on tour and did amazingly and she has so many live performances, WITH an awesome video! But now, she cancels a month of tour dates so she can perform with Tony a couple of times and thats all that comes of it. FameGa, TFMGa, BTWGa, could all have made so many great projects or videos, or at least a gagavision, in that time. You don't keep throwing money at videos that won't make a difference. She's on tour. She is promoting her music and working hard by touring behind the album. Where did she cancel a month of concert dates? I never saw her cancel anything. On a long tour, there is a hiatus for several weeks for a breather. There's no momentum on this album that will make a single take off. G.U.Y. was never going to take off on the radio. There was a big mistake made when there was too much down time back months ago, but that's done. And nothing this far along will fix the fact that the ARTPOP era is dead except for the tour, which is how most acts are anyway unless the album is so huge that more and more singles are put out and videos. Everything stops while on tour for most acts. The album did as well as it was ever going to do. Better music next time is the answer as far as I'm concerned to get better singles, more sales, and for those that love ARTPOP, they have a great album and promo to look back on But stick a fork in anything new for the era. It's done. The Little Monsters should be called The Little Whiners. I'm not talking about debate and legitimate criticism of this era and/or album. I'm talking about whining about every little thing to the nth degree. And this is coming from me, someone who doesn't even like ARTPOP all that much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Bro, this is a forum. People post their opinion and people either agree or counter it. Don't cry wolf just because an opinion is being countered. For every person on this thread that is disagreeing with his opinion, there are just as many who are agreeing. So sit down. Tired of people labeling users as delusional just because they defend Gaga on an open forum. There are two sides of this coin and both sides are going to argue vehemently. Including those who think there's nothing wrong with Gaga's music or her marketing decisions. Indeed they do however I don't see in the OP how what you said- This fan base is disgusting. Are you guys 12? Or just too gay to even comprehend that music exists beyond mainstream, big budget, corporate pop culture? Fu.CK and what many others see as a good response? Maybe you should check your allegations thrown at the OP and think whether that was worthy of adding to the debate? I'm not crying wolf and I am perfectly seated, just sick of people thinking they can be rude because it's to "defend" Gaga when you and I know that this is not what she is about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus 298 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Fans are supposed to like the artist's work not make the artist deliver the work they'd love. this is the most stupid argument ever. I do not mean to offend you but an artist SHOULD MAKE MUSIC THAT THE FANS WOULD LOVE. We are not supossed to like everything she releases, like brainless sheeps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 I agree. If you become lazy and less invested in selling yourself as brand than someone more eager and willing is going to take your place. Its the cycle of business.This is why Iggy is currently slaying the charts, Katy continues to rise as a superstar and Madonna is the biggest female recording artist of all time... Please! Iggy is a newbie...let's see where she is at and how many albums she has sold in six years. Madonna had her ups and downs. Some of her eras and projects were more successful than others. That's what happens in a long term career. ..same will be tried for Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mAnster 26 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Some of you people are insane. The woman is on tour for christ's sake. Complaining about her posting pictures of Asia... really? Come on. She is being true to her journey as an artist. Trust me.. some of the songs on ARTPOP took months to perfect. The placement and movement of every synth and vocal is meticulously calculated. It is a true aural painting. The music is visual in itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,349 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Indeed they do however I don't see in the OP how what you said- and what many others see as a good response? Maybe you should check your allegations thrown at the OP and think whether that was worthy of adding to the debate? I'm not crying wolf and I am perfectly seated, just sick of people thinking they can be rude because it's to "defend" Gaga when you and I know that this is not what she is about. Lol Yeah I'm being rude. But the people who are defending Gaga are NOT the only ones being rude. Don't try to spin this in your favor when you know for damn sure that both sides are just as nasty. And if you knew anything about me, you'd know that I usually like to contribute thought not shade. But you don't know me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 this is the most stupid argument ever. I do not mean to offend you but an artist SHOULD MAKE MUSIC THAT THE FANS WOULD LOVE. We are not supossed to like everything she releases, like brainless sheeps. Nope, not for true artists...ones who put their vision first. That's for those whose main goal is to get radio hits, at all cost. You don't have to like it, but she doesn't have to make music for you either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Venus 473 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 this is the most stupid argument ever. I do not mean to offend you but an artist SHOULD MAKE MUSIC THAT THE FANS WOULD LOVE. We are not supossed to like everything she releases, like brainless sheeps. She will make music and if the fans like it then great if not then great too.You follow an artist because you like their music and their artistic vision not because they please your needs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus 298 Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Nope, not for true artists...ones who put their vision first. That's for those whose main goal is to get radio hits, at all cost. You don't have to like it, but she doesn't have to make music for you either. But whats the point of pushing your vision first when a big part of your fan base dont get it and dont like it? Isnt art supposed to be relatable so everyone could understand it and like it? She will make music and if the fans like it then great if not then great too.You follow an artist because you like their music and their artistic vision not because they please your needs. dude...cmon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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