Redstreak 6,653 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 The day after the Supreme Court's Hobby Lobby ruling, a group of religious leaders sent a letter to President Barack Obama asking that he exempt them from a forthcoming executive order that would prohibit federal contractors from discriminating against LGBT people. The letter, first reported by The Atlantic, was sent on Tuesday by 14 representatives, including the president of Gordon College, an Erie County, Pa., executive and the national faith vote director for Obama for America 2012, of the faith community. "Without a robust religious exemption," they wrote, "this expansion of hiring rights will come at an unreasonable cost to the common good, national unity and religious freedom." The leaders noted that the Senate-passed Employment Non-Discrimination Act included a religious exemption: Our concern about an executive order without a religious exemption is about more than the direct financial impact on religious organizations. While the nation has undergone incredible social and legal change over the last decade, we still live in a nation with different beliefs about s-xuality. We must find a way to respect diversity of opinion on this issue in a way that respects the dignity of all parties to the best of our ability. There is no perfect solution that will make all parties completely happy. The White House announced in June that Obama would issue an executive order forbidding contractors that receive federal funding from discriminating based on s-xual orientation or gender equality after the House had stymied ENDA. The White House declined to comment to The Atlantic on the Tuesday letter and did not immediately respond to TPM's request for comment. The letter didn't mention the Hobby Lobby decision directly. But one of the signees, Michael Wear, the Obama 2012 veteran, told The Atlantic that the court decision meant the administration would need to address such concerns. "The administration does have a decision to make whether they want to recalibrate their approach to some of these issues," he said. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/religious-groups-lgbt-hiring-hobby-lobby Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SissyFromSpace 20,884 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Religious people are annoying. Barbie elitist - Weaboo - Sissy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Married the Night 3,955 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I don't get it. The wording in this article is weird. Almost gibberish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwings 12,967 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 While the nation has undergone incredible social and legal change over the last decade, we still live in a nation with different beliefs about s-xuality. However, an individual's personal beliefs do not override or invalidate the rights of others. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronyoji 2,064 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 "religious exemption"........exemption....meaning special treatment.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted July 2, 2014 Author Share Posted July 2, 2014 I don't get it. The wording in this article is weird. Almost gibberish. Thanks to the Hobby Lobby ruling, religious led companies are fighting for exemptions against an executive order that would make it illegal against LGBT people in the work place. "religious exemption"........exemption....meaning special treatment.... Remember when people argued that we as gay people really wanted special rights and treatment? Well now... Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SychosSoChic 9,995 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Religion is no excuse to deny someone their rights tho And if religion is allowed as an excuse then any homophobe could use religion as an excuse, more than they already do to deny an LGBT member of their right to work :toofloppy: There can be no compromise with these things, there's either discrimination or equality. Life ain't Hollywood for any one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,112 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 only one thing to say to them tbh There can be no compromise with these things, there's either discrimination or equality. Expose ha! I know which one I support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I literally called this less than an hour after the Hobby lobby ruling. Check my freaking posts. Absolutely ridiculous. Livid right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggedMonster 2 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 This is becoming a mess So much for separation of church and state Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mast 980 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 However, an individual's personal beliefs do not override or invalidate the rights of others. In a democracy like ours, it dooooo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwings 12,967 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 In a democracy like ours, it dooooo Well, I was speaking from a theoretical standpoint, but yes. There are plenty of idiots who will vote away the rights of others based solely on feels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpggal 332 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I really don't think they're going to get their exemption on the grounds of the Hobby Lobby decision. With the emergency contraception issue, religious companies would be literally paying for something they thought was a sin. With hiring LGBT individuals, it's not like the company is paying them to be LGBT, they're paying for their labor. I can't imagine how they could reasonably argue that HIRING an LGBT person is a sin, any more than selling products to LGBT individuals, and you know companies would never give that up. I don't agree with the Hobby Lobby decision at all, but it's at least a little more reasonable than what they're asking for here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aura Veil 2,395 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryhanna 3,507 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Can religion just stop having any bearing on politics? Please? Personal religious beliefs have no place in deciding anything even remotely political. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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