Mary Jane Holland recycled track leaked

[Enigmatica 0]

So if the instrumentials were ready since the very begining and it only takes her 10 minutes to write the lyrics , why did we have to wait this long for AP then?

The irony of naming the album ArtPOP

[Interludicrous 15]

BYE

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qS3vHeZ8UA 0:40

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dohzrXT09w

 

I knew the first one, the second one is new to me. But still, I'm not as upset about this because the composition of Bad Romance is still original. Using a sound, a synth, or some other element from a pre-existing song isn't wrong, as long as you build your own work with it. These pieces above sound nothing like Bad Romance - they just share the same "instruments".

 

It's the same way you can't say one artist "copied" another artist just because they both use a similar sounding guitar or chord. It's just a sound that someone uses to compose something greater.

[Miel 15,009]

I know that these were largely original though, that was my point. :P

Maybe my post wasnt completely clear

 

:)

 

 

I'm ready for all you little managers to get out of this fanbase. It's toxic. It's unwarranted and ungrateful. The fact is that none of you understand music production or EDM music or even MUSIC in general. Gaga hires producers to produce her music. Those producers may have a vocal to go off of and they either find something that fits for them (unreleased material or originally crafted). 99 percent of the time when a song is released the public never finds out if it's original or unreleased but with Gaga everything is under the microscope because of the extreme level of standards that she is held to. I would like to know how many songs off of Prism, Britney Jean, and other albums from last year received the same treatment. We will never know... and why should we ever care? Gtfo if you cant understand this concept. 

 

People are being a little more out of it than I think is warranted for, I agree. However, in their defense, I think they (and I, not gonna lie) were going by the sentiments that Gaga made her music in a different... manner?

 

"I write my own music, I wrote every sing lyric and melody on this album, I am not manufactured."

 

I'm not saying she's manufactured now, and I'm not saying her method here for ARTPOP is wrong- it's just that I, and probably a lot of others, had a different idea of what kind of artists she is.

 

I'm not detracting her as a musician or as an artist, but that method in particular I'm just nor a personal fan of. It's still good music, and I still respect her as a musician- I just thought of her as different. God knows why she chose this method for ARTPOP more- maybe she just wanted to try a different method? Or maybe there was something more deep rooted going on that we don't know? The point is, that credit was given where it was due, and at the end of the day the music is still good.

 

Before anybody stones me, I'm not saying I'm right.

[Neptune 156]

There is a huge difference between using two specific sounds and using a whole instrumental (and the fact that the intro was on Gaga's MJH demo...).

 

Did you listen to the instrumental of the first video I posted? Balla Nation is, basically, Bad Romance's verses. Of course it had to be edited, but that's besides the point.

 

The thing is: Madeon produced this instrumental, RedOne didn't produce Balla Nation.

[Battle 4 Ur Life 6,461]

wow some of you clearly don't know the difference between sample and synths...

[Born Brave 2,072]

MJ did this all the time.. if you don't believe me look up all the demos from the Bad and Thriller albums.... he would be given beats by producers and he would add his own vocals and lyrics to it.. Rest assured Gaga writes her own music and lets not forget she practically produced a whole song on ARTPOP by herself (with a little help from DJWS) that wasn't even added until LATE into the development of the album.... VENUS! 

[Sara 1,128]

This "leak" only tells us what we already knew: That Gaga had producers help with the instrumental parts of her those songs that were more electronic and required more production foundation. :shrug:

[kvnrp 48,353]

I remember that Gaga said she had chosen  Zedd and Madeon, after hearing them, from the work that they had sent her, so the situation is actually different. Recycling should not be seen as "rag color" to the situation, but as an adaptation of something that had already been produced. This is not "i'm lazy" but " you guys have a potential with those demos don't waste them , we will give new life"

I thought the same about this. This instrumental is way too good to be unreleased.

[Born Brave 2,072]

This "leak" only tells us what we already knew: That Gaga had producers help with the instrumental parts of her those songs that were more electronic and required more production foundation.

Bless you Sara. 

[Neptune 156]

I'm ready for all you little managers to get out of this fanbase. It's toxic. It's unwarranted and ungrateful. The fact is that none of you understand music production or EDM music or even MUSIC in general. Gaga hires producers to produce her music. Those producers may have a vocal to go off of and they either find something that fits for them (unreleased material or originally crafted). 99 percent of the time when a song is released the public never finds out if it's original or unreleased but with Gaga everything is under the microscope because of the extreme level of standards that she is held to. I would like to know how many songs off of Prism, Britney Jean, and other albums from last year received the same treatment. We will never know... and why should we ever care? Gtfo if you cant understand this concept. 

 

Nobody's saying this takes credit from ARTPOP because other artists also do that. I'm saying this makes me feel disappointed because, to me, a song should be created (mostly) from scratch in order to have its own "soul". This makes it feel like a product that has been sold to me. A product to which her vocals were glued.

[Miel 15,009]

I remember that Gaga said she had chosen  Zedd and Madeon, after hearing them, from the work that they had sent her, so the situation is actually different. Recycling should not be seen as "rag color" to the situation, but as an adaptation of something that had already been produced. This is not "i'm lazy" but " you guys have a potential with those demos don't waste them , we will give new life"

 

 

Nice way to put it :)

Edited June 26, 2014 by Miel

[Celina 118]

I remember that Gaga said she had chosen  Zedd and Madeon, after hearing them, from the work that they had sent her, so the situation is actually different. Recycling should not be seen as "rag color" to the situation, but as an adaptation of something that had already been produced. This is not "i'm lazy" but " you guys have a potential with those demos don't waste them , we will give new life"

This :yes:

[Miel 15,009]

This "leak" only tells us what we already knew: That Gaga had producers help with the instrumental parts of her those songs that were more electronic and required more production foundation.

 

:)

[Bat 6,162]

You're a Rihanna stan criticizing someone for not working hard enough, when you've been a fan of one of the pop girls least involved in their music, ever. Laughable

 

Girllll atleast RiRi rolls out singles/videos/promotion and so on. 

 

But besides that, Gaga was always the girl dat made her own shizzle, and now of a sudden she puts her voice on a instrumental which totally doesn't fit her as a artist. It's basic and that's why ARTPOP didn't delivered as much as it should have, people expect more from her.

[Hauser 1,262]

THIS. She bought the rights to the songs so there isn't anything wrong with that, but the wait for this album was ridiculous. But I guess it is because they recorded over 50 different songs for the album.

Oh thats right I forgot about that fact, still in those 50 tracks there are songs that are probably better quality than what we got as a final result for Aura, MJH, Donatella, and whatever other bought track.