SpaceAce 1,058 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I posted this elsewhere a little while ago. I just wish more people would consider these things and ask not only gaga but others to reconsider their relationship with Terry Richardson. Another allegation of s-xual harassment has come out just this week and it's frustrating to see no one respond. If you don't want to read my long post - here are some articles to read to when you have the time. Please don't comment here with tl;dr or just don't comment at all if you don't want to read on this subject. Thank you. Huffington Post Jezebel Vocativ NewStatesMan I don’t care about what Gaga wears, what genre of music she wants to make, etc. I know that whatever she does it’s going to be good because she loves her work and is so passionate about it. She’s also passionate about being a good influence and having an impact on the world. She’s done so through offering her time, attention and money to so many people and causes. That’s enough for me to love and respect her and to be supportive and optimistic. I’m not a fan who complains about her creative decisions and I always enjoy seeing her grow as a person and an artist, even if the work sometimes doesn’t affect me. However, I’m having a hard time understanding how she can be so ignorant in regards to the people she works with and is friends with - The people she praises to the media and her fans and whose careers and influence she’s constantly promoting. Every time she takes a photo w/ Terry Richardson and has her arms wrapped around him and every time she ignores addressing why the DWUW video was never released is disappointing to me. She might as well be telling her young fans straight up that women don’t matter, that it’s okay to turn a blind eye to s-xual assault and s-xual predators as long as the offender is talented and celebrated. Maybe at the time when she told us that “many people write a lot of untrue things about R. Kelly.†and painted him as a victim, she was truly unaware of his past (one can only hope she wasn’t sympathizing with him while knowing what he had done), but knowing what she knows about him now, how can she not reflect on her words and not feel some sort of regret for the message she’s been sending? Countless monsters/fans know about R. Kelly’s issues and have written it off as a fabrication of the media and I don’t doubt that Gaga’s own words have played a factor in this mindset that they’re displaying. In their point of view, either R. Kelly is victim of not knowing better or he should be cut some slack for being an artist in the spotlight. Now moving on to an even bigger confusion - Countless articles have been written addressing both R. Kelly and Terry Richardson’s offenses due to the publicity that the music video they were working on was getting. Rightfully so, many publications were criticizing Gaga and other artists that these men have worked with like Beyonce and Lena Dunham: Slate: Beyonce and Lady Gaga face questions over collaborations with R. Kelly and Terry Richardson Jezebel: Lena Dunham talks R. Kelly, Terry Richardson BKmag: Look at this tangle of thorns on R. Kelly, Lena Dunham, Terry Richardson and Beyonce Flavorwire: Is the Christina Aguilera version of Do What U Want Lady Gaga’s attempt to distance herself from R. Kelly? How could she be aware of one’s offenses but not the other’s? I don’t think it’s possible. Additionally, so many publications have recently come out to condemn Terry after yet another model came forward with her experience working with him and the s-xual abuse she suffered. Either Gaga is living under a rock and doesn’t know what the internet is or she’s being willfully ignorant. Even if all of the women who have bravely come forward to talk about their experience with Terry were lying, direct quotes from him like this exist and have been quoted in many recent articles regarding his predatory behavior: "Like I’ve always said, it’s not who you know, it’s who you blow. I don’t have a hole in my jeans for nothing." In this quote, Terry is discussing how young models can break in to the industry. oh, and then there’s this gem: "A lot of it starts with me saying to a girl, ‘Do you want to do nudes?’ And they’re like, ‘I don’t want to be naked,’so I say, ‘I’ll be naked and you take the pictures. You can have the camera. You can have the phallus.’" How can Gaga, who has come out with her own struggles of being taken advantage of by men in the industry, not have the mind and conscience to stop working with Terry and to stop validating him and so many other men in power who prey on young women? I’m slowly and hesitantly coming to the conclusion that she just doesn’t care about this issue. What does her indifference imply in regards to her own experiences? I remember hearing her interview with Howard Stern where she mentioned she wasn’t angry about what happened to her but “sadâ€. I still don’t understand her feelings regarding this. Is she displaying maturity? But how can anger be the wrong response to someone getting away with dehumanizing you? How can you not be angry knowing you weren’t the first and certainly aren’t the last to be abused? If my memory is serving me right, in the same interview she said she was bringing her story up as a warning for young women trying to make it in the industry. However, in my opinion it’s not enough to tell women to be careful and to not call out the men and people in power who are protecting and actively engaging in this culture. Whatever loyalty she feels towards Terry should pale in comparison to the responsibility she’s given herself as a role model and source of comfort to her young fans. She has done so many good things for them and as a result, they’ve put their trust and faith in her. How could she not be considering this? We know that she’s aware of how her fans view her. She’s given herself such a huge responsibility by putting herself into this role and I admire her for it but she shouldn’t be doing it half-heartedly anymore. I’m not fond of highlighting her faults, as she’s just a human being who I believe is doing her best - given all of the pressure, attention and scrutiny she’s under. Nothing she has ever done before has disappointed me in the slightest but this is an exception. It sucks to see one of the artists you admire most being gutless. The only reason why this text is so long is because I hold her to a high standard. If she hadn’t built herself up to be a human rights activist and role model to millions of impressionable young people then I probably wouldn’t have written this at all. (This friendship grosses me out :millie: ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 "This indifference and defense of his actions" Alleged actions. Let's leave the investigation to those who are capable of investigating these claims. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Little Phoney 658 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Gaga chooses her friends and colleagues, not us, and he is, in my opinion, a great photographer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
What 4 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 He's a creep and I don't like him. He just looks like a pedophile rapist murderer combo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 "This indifference and defense of his actions" Alleged actions. Let's leave the investigation to those who are capable of investigating these claims. It's hard to press charges when these teenage girls fail to say no to him. It's apparently not considered a crime in this situation. Please read the link regarding Charlotte Waters' story. Vocativ If you believe what happened to her is either made up or not wrong then, whatever. Can't change people's thought processes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic 1,415 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 She just likes ppl who were born their way :derpga: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Gaga chooses her friends and colleagues, not us, and he is, in my opinion, a great photographer. That's not the point. She's promoting the career of a s-xual predator. It's wrong. It doesn't matter if he is a "great" photographer or not. Additionaly, there's plenty of "great" photographers to go around - she can easily find someone else who doesn't s-xually abuse young women. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Peters 10,738 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Alleged. I can't stress that enough. It's your opinion, and you can stick by that. I'm going to stick by mine, and say that you don't have control over who Gaga is friends with whether you think it's 'gross' (seriously?) or not. emma roberts is an abuser Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 That's not the point. She's promoting the career of a s-xual predator. It's wrong. It doesn't matter if he is a "great" photographer or not. Additionaly, there's plenty of "great" photographers to go around - she can easily find someone else who doesn't s-xually abuse young women. Inez & Vindooh for one They're amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco 3,040 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 omg so much to read... Seriously, to me he's like R Kelly, talented but disgusting and I think Gaga should avoid to work with people like this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If I'm buying a cake from a past criminal, alleged or otherwise, I'm buying it because they're a damn good baker, their criminal record doesn't change that nor does that mean I somehow endorse whatever they did. Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughdancy 282 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 "This indifference and defense of his actions" Alleged actions. Let's leave the investigation to those who are capable of investigating these claims. Exactly. It's never been proved in court afaik - the moment it his, feel free to hate him. But people have a habit of turning 'alleged rapists' into 'rapists'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Nights 163 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Let me change it around a bit so you can get it from another point of view. Gaga is friends with Terry and obviously knows much more that's going on behind the scenes. Gaga must feel safe with him and know more then we do to still be friends with him. Also, you just can't trust what people say online. According to these sites Gaga has a dick, she's obese, and scammed interscope out of $20,000,000. I know that terry has a past of some kinda gross photo shoots and stuff, but that doesn't make him a bad person. We just have to trust that Gaga is smart enough to pick her own friends, because obviously knows more about him and the situation then we do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
teo 609 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Excuse me, but he's a great photographer. And since he's still with Gaga after she showed the door to many people makes me think he's not a bad person at all. Other than that there are officials who deal with accusations like s-xual harassment. If somebody have a complaint you go to the police and then to court. Twitter doesn't count. A "model" posting "texts" from him is like a teen girl tweeting American airlines, she's from al qaeda. I'm not going to believe some gossip sites over Gaga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Alleged. I can't stress that enough. It's your opinion, and you can stick by that. I'm going to stick by mine, and say that you don't have control over who Gaga is friends with whether you think it's 'gross' (seriously?) or not. If publications such as Vogue and brands such as H&M can have the conscience to stop working with him due to these "allegations" which should be treated seriously, then I'm sure Gaga can try considering it. Their relationship does disgust me because she's clearly ignoring such a large part of his character. These ~allegations span over many years and have come from many different sources. Enough is enough. Defend him all you want because you think it's just - But I can think this is whole thing is gross if I want to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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