Lady Gaga got in a heated exchange with one of Dr. Luke's laywers while being deposed as part of the ongoing legal battle between Kesha and the producer, real name Lukasz Gottwald. The newly unsealed deposition, which took place in September 2017, began with Gaga's attorney explaining that the singer was experiencing PTSD reactions as a survivor of sexual abuse before the hearing.
"I just want everyone to understand that, as she has publicly stated in other contexts, as a sex abuse survivor, and I know this from my own personal experience with family members, there are trigger events, and this deposition has proved to be a trigger event for Ms. Germanotta," Gaga's lawyer said. "And she has experienced in the past few hours some PTSD reactions which is causing some trauma and emotional reactivity. So she is crying now, the record will reflect."
Gaga began by recounting that she had first met Kesha at Luke's home studio. She said Kesha was in a back room wearing only underwear. She then said Kesha told her about years of alleged abuse by Dr. Luke: "What we discussed was, what I recall was her immense sadness and depression and fear. She was visibly very different than when I had seen her before."
Things then started to get heated when Dr Luke's lawyer began to ask Gaga if she believed Luke's reputation was damaged by the allegations. Gaga answered: "If you are asking about his reputation in the world, I don’t feel at liberty to speak for the entire world. So if you are asking what my view is of his reputation, I made my view of him and his reputation when I saw her in that back room. That was an image that—of something that happened to me, and I felt and knew in my heart that she was telling the truth, and I believe her."
When asked to confirm that she has "no personal knowledge or information" about Gottwald’s physical relationship with Kesha, Gaga responded, "Yes, I do have knowledge. She told me that he assaulted her." When asked for further facts to support that statement, Gaga replied, "Well, when men assault women, they don't invite people over to watch."
Gaga continued: "And when this happens in this industry, it is kept extremely secret, and it is compounded by contracts and manipulative power scenarios that actually include this very situation that we are all in right now."
The lawyer then asked, "But, again, there are people that are falsely accused of rape, aren't there? You think there has never been a false accusation of rape?"
Gaga did not take kindly to the questions and blasted the female lawyer questioning her, saying: "How about all of the women that are accused of being liars and how she was slut shamed in front of the world, how about that?"
"I have factual knowledge of her depression," she continued. "I have factual knowledge of her need for support and love. I have factual knowledge of the spiral that I watched that girl go down. I have factual knowledge of trauma. I am informed and intelligent about this issue. That girl has experienced serious trauma and she is in the middle of the right now. And you are all a party to it."
Gaga added: "Why on earth would this girl tell the entire world this happened? Why on earth? Do you know what it’s like for survivors? Do you know what it’s like to tell people? Don’t you roll you eyes at me. You should be ashamed of yourself."
At that point, everyone agreed to take a break.