ReRe 1,957 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 the two best songs on the album... dont get how they flopped lol This :emo: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liaison 4 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 The has been spilled Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasingGhosts 726 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Noooooooooooo lol It got NONE OF GP TALKING. Instead it got the pressed stanbases attacking and mocking Gaga. It got plenty of 'the GP' talking - heard people at work and school talk about it for weeks and everyone I work with knows ARTPOP songs and the only Prism songs they know are Dark Horse and Roar Born This Way > Joanne > The Fame Monster > The Fame > ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandora 162 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 You're correct, ARTPOP was a success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReRe 1,957 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 It got plenty of 'the GP' talking - heard people at work and school talk about it for weeks and everyone I work with knows ARTPOP songs and the only Prism songs they know are Dark Horse and Roar It certainly didn't sell that much though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Unicorn 82 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Stop at people saying that Mediatraffic isn't reliable... This team do their job for 16 years without any problems and everything was right. Do you know why Mediatraffic is reliable ? Because he just adds up sales from countries since 1998. He just does the maths and it can't be more reliable than it is. It's based on official charts and I don't know why you don't understand. - USA (Billboard) - Japan (Oricon) - United Kingdom (Music Week) - Germany (Media Control) - France (Syndicat National de l'Édition Phonographique) - Canada (Billboard) - Australia (ARIA) - Italy (Federazione Industria Musicale Italiana) - Spain (Productores de Música de España) - Netherlands (MegaCharts)- - Belgium (Ultratop) - Mexico (Asociación Mexicana de Productores de Fonogramas y Videogramas) - Brazil (Associação Brasileira dos Produtores de Discos) - Argentina (Argentine Chamber of Phonograms and Videograms Producers) - South Korea (Gaon & Hanteo) - New Zealand (Recorded Music NZ) - Austria (Media Control) - Switzerland (Media Control) - Denmark (Tracklisten) - Norway (VG-lista) - Sweden (Sverigetopplistan) - Finland (Suomen Virallinen Lista) - Ireland (IRMA) - Portugal (Associação Fonográfica Portuguesa) - Poland (ZPAV) - Hungary (Mahasz) - Greece (IFPI Greece) - Taiwan (G-Music) - Czech Republic (IFPI CR) + Slovakia, South Africa, Argentina, Chile, and Colombia. And they even use the latest IFPI-statistics for the charts from countries without sales stats. If all the figures adding make 1,760M. It can't be 2,3M because she didn't sold 540,000 outside those countries for sure. How can it be false by doing additions ? Even official charts company trust Mediatraffic. They even put their sales in their reports. What is impressive is that you give a number and don't reflect from where it comes from and how she can sold those figures with 690k sold in the US, 190k in the UK, 190k in Japan, 60k sold in France and less than 100k in Germany (at least 60k), whiches are the biggest music markets in the world. It's impossible... So, please, stop saying incoherent infos. :( 2,3M are obviously shipped and IFPI used this number because it has been sold to retailers. And Interscope use the shipped number for years. Charts experts will say to you that it's shipments, trust me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterOfSpain 8,318 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 ARTPOP is a success Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Stop at people saying that Mediatraffic isn't reliable... This team do their job for 16 years without any problems and everything was right. Do you know why Mediatraffic is reliable ? Because he just adds up sales from countries since 1998. He just does the maths and it can't be more reliable than it is. It's based on official charts and I don't know why you don't understand. - USA (Billboard) - Japan (Oricon) - United Kingdom (Music Week) - Germany (Media Control) - France (Syndicat National de l'Édition Phonographique) - Canada (Billboard) - Australia (ARIA) - Italy (Federazione Industria Musicale Italiana) - Spain (Productores de Música de España) - Netherlands (MegaCharts)- - Belgium (Ultratop) - Mexico (Asociación Mexicana de Productores de Fonogramas y Videogramas) - Brazil (Associação Brasileira dos Produtores de Discos) - Argentina (Argentine Chamber of Phonograms and Videograms Producers) - South Korea (Gaon & Hanteo) - New Zealand (Recorded Music NZ) - Austria (Media Control) - Switzerland (Media Control) - Denmark (Tracklisten) - Norway (VG-lista) - Sweden (Sverigetopplistan) - Finland (Suomen Virallinen Lista) - Ireland (IRMA) - Portugal (Associação Fonográfica Portuguesa) - Poland (ZPAV) - Hungary (Mahasz) - Greece (IFPI Greece) - Taiwan (G-Music) - Czech Republic (IFPI CR) + Slovakia, South Africa, Argentina, Chile, and Colombia. And they even use the latest IFPI-statistics for the charts from countries without sales stats. If all the figures adding make 1,760M. It can't be 2,3M because she didn't sold 540,000 outside those countries for sure. How can it be false by doing additions ? Even official charts company trust Mediatraffic. They even put their sales in their reports. What is impressive is that you give a number and don't reflect from where it comes from and how she can sold those figures with 690k sold in the US, 190k in the UK, 190k in Japan, 60k sold in France and less than 100k in Germany (at least 60k), whiches are the biggest music markets in the world. It's impossible... So, please, stop saying incoherent infos. :( 2,3M are obviously shipped and IFPI used this number because it has been sold to retailers. And Interscope use the shipped number for years. Charts experts will say to you that it's shipments, trust me. Mess... IFPI is reliable. It doesn't matter how many years a guy in a basement has been calculating stuff. The real mess is people discrediting IFPI and saying they're shipments when they would have clearly said so if they were shipments. IFPI has knowledge of all sales worldwide unlike Mediatraffic who knows jack especially now that the music market is undergoing massive changes. Stop this mess and believe IFPI. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Unicorn 82 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Mess... IFPI is reliable. It doesn't matter how many years a guy in a basement has been calculating stuff. The real mess is people discrediting IFPI and saying they're shipments when they would have clearly said so if they were shipments. IFPI has knowledge of all sales worldwide unlike Mediatraffic who knows jack especially now that the music market is undergoing massive changes. Stop this mess and believe IFPI. I will not believe IFPI because it's impossible that she sold 2,3M in 2013 with less than 630k sold in the US according to Billboard, 180k in UK according to BPI, 155k in Japan according to Oricon, and less than 60k in France according to Charts in France, in 2013, whiches are one of the biggest music markets in the world. This is obviously shipments. If you don't understand logic, this is a real problem while we're talking about charts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I will not believe IFPI because it's impossible that she sold 2,3M in 2013 with less than 630k sold in the US, 180k in UK, 155k in Japan and less than 60k in France, in 2013, whiches are one of the biggest music markets in the world. This is obviously shipments. If you don't understand logic, this is a real problem while we're talking about charts. Mess, little flopsters know more than IFPI and choose to believe someone without access to all sales data over the most reliable source representing the music market. nnnn :lana: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Unicorn 82 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Mess, little flopsters know more than IFPI and choose to believe someone without access to all sales data over the most reliable source representing the music market. nnnn Well, we had access to all those sales : U.S: 688k [Gold] U.K: 193k [Gold] Japan: 191k [Platinum (Shipments over 250,000)] Canada: ~81k [Platinum] Mexico: 60k [Platinum] France: ~61k [Gold] Brazil: 64k [Platinum] Italy: 25k [Gold] Argentina: 20k [Gold] Spain: 20k [Gold] Sweden: 20k [Gold] Switzerland: 15k [Gold] Austria: 10k [Gold] Finland: 10k [Gold] Poland: 10k [Gold] Colombia: 5k [Gold] South Korea: ~4k Hungary: 1k [Gold] Now find me the 800k whiches are missed to reach 2,3M. You will not. And Mediatraffic has access to a lot of sales. (from the countries that I put in another post above) Mess at monsters saying that they know more than everyone and didn't reflect from where this number comes from. :dead: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pitch 204 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Finally someone who understands logic. Here are ARTPOP sales that we know : US : 688k [Gold] U K : ~193k [Gold] Japan : ~190k [Platinum (Shipments over 250,000)] Canada : ~83k [Platinum] Mexico : 60k [Platinum] France : ~63k [Platinum (Shipments over 100,000)] Brazil : 64k [Platinum] Italy : 25k [Gold] Argentina : 20k [Gold] Spain : 20k [Gold] Sweden : 20k [Gold] Switzerland : 15k [Gold] Austria : 10k [Gold] Finland : 10k [Gold] Poland : 10k [Gold] Colombia : 5k [Gold] South Korea : ~4k Hungary : 1k [Gold] TOTAL : ~1,5M copies It's impossible for her to sell 800k outside of that markets, because the biggest markets are counted in the 1,5M. I don't know why people don't understand... It's obviously clear. So, 1,8M is realistic comparing to those 2,3M shipped. It's exactely the same problem as France. SNEP announced a platinium certification for ARTPOP (100,000 copies) without saying that it's shipments, while Gaga sold 63k real copies there, because we know the sales for each week. Hope you understand... ^this LADY GAGA/madonna/katy perry/little mix/ariana grande/selena gomez/britney spears/taylor swift Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elsongalang 8 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 IT DIDNT SOLD THAT MUCH. ARTPOP IS NOT A SUCCESS BY ANY MEANS, EMBRACE IT. OOH, another Perez Hilton account. Oops, busted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bye 3,947 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 Well, we had access to all those sales : U.S: 688k [Gold] U.K: 193k [Gold] Japan: 191k [Platinum (Shipments over 250,000)] Canada: ~81k [Platinum] Mexico: 60k [Platinum] France: ~61k [Gold] Brazil: 64k [Platinum] Italy: 25k [Gold] Argentina: 20k [Gold] Spain: 20k [Gold] Sweden: 20k [Gold] Switzerland: 15k [Gold] Austria: 10k [Gold] Finland: 10k [Gold] Poland: 10k [Gold] Colombia: 5k [Gold] South Korea: ~4k Hungary: 1k [Gold] Now find me the 800k whiches are missed to reach 2,3M. You will not. And Mediatraffic has access to a lot of sales. (from the countries that I put in another post above) Mess at monsters saying that they know more than everyone and didn't reflect from where this number comes from. :dead: IFPI has access to sales MediaTraffic does not Mess at people failing to understand this and hailing a guy in his mom's basement as more reliable than IFPI. ^thisMess :sharon: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GypsyPrince 237 Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 I don't know whether to feel happy that everybody has high expectations of my fave because they know she has the ability and talent to succeed, or sad that nobody's appreciative of whatever she does. Mark my words, even if the next album sells 700k copies 1st week which is way higher than ARTPOP and something most artists can't do but lower than BTW, nobody will be satisfied and she'll be called a flop. Flop is the new slay, tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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